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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix
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To: Chode

These are still “shake down” numbers. I’ll wait to see what the engineers come up with today after they digest the data and make adjustments.


851 posted on 02/08/2012 8:59:35 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: henkster

Lower nose for crashing into other cars, noses were getting too high and may not of impacted the other car, but something higher such as the driver.


852 posted on 02/08/2012 12:28:59 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: henkster
click the link in #821
853 posted on 02/08/2012 3:39:30 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lockbox
i hope you're right, hate the step-down...
854 posted on 02/08/2012 3:40:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Most F1 teams went with a ‘high’ chassis, now the F1 has nose heigth regulations for 2012. McLaren had a low chassis thus does not have
the same distance to drop their nose to meet regulations.


855 posted on 02/08/2012 5:03:43 PM PST by Lockbox
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Racing center displays historic McLarenRacing center displays historic McLaren
WATKINS GLEN—A McLaren M23 with one of the longest and most illustrious histories of the series is now on display at the International Motor Racing Research Center.  Hosting this spectacular car is a fitting cap to the Center’s 2011 yearlong celebration of the 50th anniversary of the first Formula One race at Watkins Glen. It will be on display through April.  Owned by Governing Council member Gregory G. Galdi, the M23/09 took the checkered flag as winner in its very first outing, in the Argentinian Grand Prix in January 1975 with Emerson Fittipaldi at the helm. In July of that year, Fittipaldi drove the car to victory in the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.  The M23/09 competed in 25 Grand Prix races - 29 races overall - and had podium finishes in the hands of Fittipaldi, James Hunt and Jochen Mass.  It has had only two owners: McLaren executive Leo Wybrott and Galdi. A full 25 years from its last race, the car had been residing in the Brooklands Museum.  With Mass at the wheel, the car finished fourth at the 1976 U.S. Grand Prix at Watkins Glen, its only running at the Glen. The car’s most recent appearance at Watkins Glen was in a vintage event in 2006. Read More ...

856 posted on 02/08/2012 5:03:43 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
I thought the new nose design looked familiar....

Photobucket

857 posted on 02/12/2012 5:41:57 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

I think they have an App for that.


858 posted on 02/12/2012 5:44:14 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad
LOLOLOLOL!!! thank God i wasn't drinking anything at the time...
859 posted on 02/12/2012 5:46:11 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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compliments of Doogle | 02/12/2012 7:40:11 PM PST new

Got Cabin fever?...........got snow at the “Ring”?

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/10/theres-only-one-thing-to-do-when-the-nurburgring-is-covered-in/?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws-main-nb|dl8|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D134661


860 posted on 02/12/2012 8:08:05 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Nice to learn the snow line around Nurburgring!


861 posted on 02/13/2012 5:33:25 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
yeah, he was really sawing that wheel...
862 posted on 02/13/2012 7:42:25 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I was waiting for the four wheel drift into the snow drift!


863 posted on 02/13/2012 10:18:00 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
der Deutches know how to drive in die snow...
864 posted on 02/13/2012 11:40:10 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Velocity channel

Gran Prix: The Killer Years ……….. Tonight March 4 …….. 8 PM Eastern

Teaser - HERE

The BBC documentary charts the dangers and accepted death toll of F1 during the 60s /70s, and how drivers like Jackie Stewart, who grew sick of their closest friends being killed on racetracks, took control of their destiny. Looking at the sport today its amazing to see the uphill battle Jackie and his peers seemed to face.

The scene at 55 minutes - David Purley at Zandvoort in 1973, trying to save a mans life while everyone else simply stands around watching - is incredibly harrowing....

It did two things for me:

1) Gave me a hell of a lot more respect for Jackie Stewart
2) Made me wonder if Colin Chapman, though clearly a genius who did value his drivers, was dangerously cavalier...?

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865 posted on 03/04/2012 5:11:34 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Chode
Teaser - HERE

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866 posted on 03/04/2012 5:13:45 AM PST by Elle Bee
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courtesy of Elle Bee... thx
867 posted on 03/04/2012 6:06:31 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

post #857...yeah bet I bet she never had glasses slip off her nose...*smiles*


868 posted on 03/04/2012 1:35:33 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle
LOL!!! but the scary thing is, it truly is a valid comparison...
869 posted on 03/04/2012 4:19:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

lol...it is


870 posted on 03/04/2012 4:56:08 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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F1 Stuff...

Red Bull Racing has dismissed talk that its new exhaust configuration is pushing the limits of Formula 1's technical regulations, despite suggestions from rival teams that the FIA may need to look at it.

Full story: Autosport 

Michael Schumacher says the new Mercedes is "promising" but has said the team are not yet in a position to win a race. "Victory to me is unlikely, I see Red Bull in front. Behind them it will be tight, and you can be either hero or zero very quickly."

Full story: Michael Schumacher's official website

Williams driver Bruno Senna has tipped Caterham to surprise this year but expects all the midfield teams to make a leap forward.

Full story: ESPNF1.com 

David Coulthard has warned Lewis Hamilton against traveling around the world to see friends between races. "I don't think it's going to be good if you are clocking up lots of miles in between the events," said the Scot. "If he is doing the LA trips a lot he may think sleeping in an aircraft is sufficient."

Full story: Daily Mirror 

F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone has indicated that the Bahrain Grand Prix will go ahead as planned. "The teams are all committed to be there, and will be there, and want to be there and like to be in Bahrain," he said. "Up until now we've never had any problems in Bahrain and we sincerely hope when we get there this year there won't be any problems. Is it good for the country? Personally, I believe yes. I really believe yes."

Planet-F1.com 

Vitaly Petrov has expressed relief at being given a chance with Caterham this season after spending the winter without a drive. He said: "It was obviously a pretty tough winter. But even though it was difficult at times, I never lost the belief that it would come good and that's what has happened."

(Formula1.com 

F1 tyre supplier Pirelli will make use of a 2010 Renault R30 for testing purposes this year, with the test driver likely to be appointed later in March.

Full story: Pirelli Media 

The European Grand Prix in Valencia is in doubt this year because the organisers have not yet paid the race fee.

Full story: El Pais (in Spanish)  

The 2012 Formula 1 season will be significantly closer than the one just gone, according to Formula 1 team bosses.

Full story: Autosport  

McLaren has played down the significance of the recent engine mapping clampdown by the FIA that has closed off a loophole in the regulations.

Full story: Autosport  

The Australian Grand Prix is the ''least viable'' of all the Formula One races and unless Melbourne introduces a night race it will be scrubbed from the calendar after the contract expires, according to F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone.

Full story: The Melbourne Age 

Nick Heidfeld and Adrian Sutil are determined to return to Formula 1 in the near future.

Full story: ESPN F1

Mercedes will not target a tilt at the World Championship until 2014. Germany's DPA news agency quotes motorsport director Norbert Haug as saying that, after finishing fourth in the constructors' standings in 2010 and 2011, the leap to first place is not possible in a single step. You don't just jump from fourth to first, so we want to do the countdown: four, three, two, one," he said.

Full story: Formula1.com  

Former F1 driver Riccardo Patrese has urged Ferrari to take action over the lack of Italian drivers in the sport following Jarno Trulli's split with Caterham. "Maybe Ferrari, if they wanted, could have an Italian driver as the second driver in the team particularly as Massa hasn't looked particularly good in the last couple of seasons. They could take a small risk to take a young Italian driver but this hasn't happened since the time of Michele Alboreto  [in the 1980s]. I think there are good young Italian drivers but they need to be given the opportunity to prove their ability."

Full story: Riccardopatrese.com 

Fernando Alonso says there is no reason why Ferrari won't be ready for the first race of the season on 18 March despite admitting to the team taking only "small steps" with their new car so far.

Full story: Ferrari.com 

The HRT team have reportedly passed all the mandatory FIA crash tests, but face a race against time to have their car ready for the final days of pre-season testing in Barcelona, starting on Thursday.

Full story: Autosport  

Caterham's Formula 1 test and reserve driver Giedo van der Garde will be the team's driver for the new GP2 Championship season which starts in Kuala Lumpur on 23 March.

Full story: GPupdate 

Red Bull's Mark Webber was satisfied with the team's practice sessions in Barcelona last week, saying: "We tested a lot of elements and everything worked well, especially since we had such a big programme. That can mean not a lot of laps and a lot of garage time, but we gathered a lot of good information today and that's a pleasing way to finish the week."

Full story: MarkWebber.com 

871 posted on 03/08/2012 4:22:23 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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for those, like me, that never got to see the movie Senna...

http://flashvids.org/video/pbfx68w4cawq


872 posted on 03/12/2012 6:23:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Mine just got here Saturday.

Very nice piece. Went into a lot of the stuff about him that I remember, the early years in the JPS, the rain, Senna/Prost at Suzuka two years in a row and the events surrounding all that, him and Balestre, Dr. Watkins, Lauda and Stewart. A very poignant bit of cinema.

And his end was handled so well, no commentary, just video of the start, the crash, the docs getting him out of the car, and the helicopter heading off over the horizon.

Well worth the $16 I spent on Amazon, I’ll watch it again.

Olé Senna. Obrigado, adeus, bravo. I don’t cheer the bull, I cheer the matador.


873 posted on 03/12/2012 7:11:32 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: West Texas Chuck
is it captioned??? i don't understand Spanish and am missing a lot of the commentary
874 posted on 03/12/2012 7:17:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Yeah, but some of the captions are in Spanish or Portugese. It is all clear enough I could follow. I’ll watch it with my glasses on next time ;)

As I have stated before, I always thought I hated that bastard, but it was at the San Marino GP in 1994 I realized I loved and respected the man.

I’ll always be on Senna’s wing, going into Tamburello.


875 posted on 03/12/2012 7:23:20 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Chode

nicely done, Thanks


876 posted on 03/12/2012 8:05:21 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: West Texas Chuck
i was heartbroke when he left McLaren, i was literally sick when he died...
877 posted on 03/12/2012 8:21:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Doogle
i guess ya found it, you can ignore the FReepmail
878 posted on 03/12/2012 8:22:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I take a few things away from this film, mainly that Ayrton was really a good guy, and Prost is a prick.


879 posted on 03/12/2012 8:44:31 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: West Texas Chuck
no argument here... i never liked Prost to begin with, respected him as a driver, but didn't like his personality
880 posted on 03/12/2012 8:49:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

You don’t see Prost out there after his fellow Frenchman Alesi has eated shat, laying there on the tarmac with his legs all twisted up after he tore his car into little pieces.

I’d pay a million bux to watch Senna and Prost in a cage match, my money is on the Brazilian. He’d pull the frog’s arms off and stuff them up his big Gallic nostrils.

But I’m not bitter ;)


881 posted on 03/12/2012 9:19:28 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

OK, I’m a dumbass, the crashed racer I refer to was Martin Donnely, not Alesi.

My bad.


882 posted on 03/12/2012 9:34:45 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Chode

You can download Senna on Netflix.


883 posted on 03/12/2012 9:35:24 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr
you can download it from the link too...
884 posted on 03/13/2012 5:04:13 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: West Texas Chuck; Chode

I saw it in the theater last year. Excellent movie on the big screen, even if some of the film quality is a bit “grainy.” And I had the same impression of Prost.


885 posted on 03/13/2012 5:37:52 AM PDT by henkster (Andrew Breitbart would not have apologized.)
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To: henkster
would of loved to see in on the big screen...
886 posted on 03/13/2012 2:49:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Check out the W-Duct

http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formula1/articulos/2012/02/19/50225-aerodynamic-w-duct-un-triple-f-duct-delantero-automatico

887 posted on 03/13/2012 3:17:26 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
i wonder what it will do in a hard crosswind?
888 posted on 03/13/2012 4:03:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
i wonder what it will do in a hard crosswind?

We'll give it a round of wedge and two turns up on the trackbar. ;- )

889 posted on 03/13/2012 4:11:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Chode

Good one, but do we tell Massa?


890 posted on 03/13/2012 4:48:04 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Chode
Good one, but do we tell Massa?

The real answer is apparent wind

891 posted on 03/13/2012 4:50:12 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: nascarnation
tooo funny...
892 posted on 03/13/2012 5:14:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Actually I just saw the thread come alive and wanted to stop by and bump one of FR’s most esoteric outposts.

Enjoy the season!


893 posted on 03/13/2012 5:17:17 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Lockbox
that too, but i was thinking more about wing loading while moving in a straight line when the wind cuts across the nose at say a 45degree angle, will it cause the wing to think the cart is turning and load accordingly???
894 posted on 03/13/2012 5:19:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: nascarnation
with SIX world champions on the track at the same time, this, should be one hell of a season...

p.s. i just bought a 2012 Elantra work car that is keeping 40mpg

895 posted on 03/13/2012 5:27:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Looking at the new rules, I see they have learned about the “wave around”.

“Before the safety car returns to the pits all lapped cars will be allowed to unlap themselves and then join the back of the pack, ensuring a clean re-start without slower cars impeding those racing for the leading positions.”


896 posted on 03/13/2012 5:35:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
the lucky dog club...
897 posted on 03/13/2012 5:45:27 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
The speed of the car, the wind angle and speed factor into the effect. On a W-Duct the transition is 1 degree. I think the high speed of the car would over come all but very high speed winds.

But this web site has the calculation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_wind

898 posted on 03/13/2012 6:44:20 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
i understand apparent wind, i guess i just thought with a 1deg transition a cross wind would make more of a difference
899 posted on 03/13/2012 6:59:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Red Bull against FIA intervention in cost control talks

Horner said he had not seen the letter or been asked to sign it but added that he believed the RRA had "fundamental flaws within it" - specifically that it is too easy for teams that are subsidiaries of car manufacturers, such as Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren, to hide work actually being done for F1 within the road-car department.

Several of the smaller teams in F1 are known to be struggling to make ends meet, and Horner believes allowing them to buy year-old cars from the leading teams would help them survive.

This has long met resistance from other teams, who believe F1 teams should make their own cars, currently a requirement.

F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone has recently been pushing the idea of allowing so-called 'customer cars'.

Horner said: "[The customer car] eradicates your R&D costs and you effectively would acquire a rolling chassis or the basis of a chassis, which would be an awful lot more competitive than where some of those teams are."

900 posted on 03/19/2012 4:01:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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