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Posted on 08/08/2009 4:48:43 PM PDT by appleseed
I am a lifetime law-abiding gun owner and avid shooter. In my life I have had many occasions to buy firearms for sporting purposes. I have not had a need to own an AK-47 nor an opportunity to try one. I am told it is the finest assault rifle ever made. If I am in a situation wherein the AK-47 is the best choice, then I need to get one and I believe that I have that right guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Assuming that situation is in defense of my home or country, if an AK-47 makes the difference in my familys survival, then so be it.
If I need an AK-47, then I would logically buy one now. When called to defense there will be no time to shop. I believe this is the logic that law-abiding people use when they buy assault rifles. I also believe this is the logic used in the writing of the Second Amendment. If ordinary citizens need to defend our nation at any level, then they not only need guns, they need the best. It is for this reason that bans are wrong: They are an infringement on our right to keep and bear arms.
Bans dont work because Americans are among the few people in the history of the world to taste freedom. They love it and they defend it with their lives. Freedom needs boundaries, which are constantly tested.
Civil rights heroes were pushing these same boundaries and so were the moonshiners of prohibition and Proposition 8 demonstrators. We sometimes paint these individuals positively or negatively, but the spirit is the same. Therefore, building a modification of a banned gun (What assault weapons ban? July 16) is not a criminal act so long as the result is compliant. We often paint the individuals who do negatively, when we shouldnt.
Regardless of the type of weapon, all people shot to death were killed by a person. No gun loads, aims, and discharges itself. No gun is mean, scary, or evil. No gun is a villain, but unfortunately some people are. The man who shot up that schoolyard with an AK-47 was a sick criminal. Other guns were used to stop him. Ask the parents of those kids if they would choose for a neighbor to have shot that guy in time to save their children. Ask them if they care what gun was used.
Guns are a beautiful part of this country. They won it, they defend it, and when bad people use them it takes good people with guns to stop them. These laws vilify heroes and manufacture felons where patriots once stood. They help no one except our enemies. Ban criminals, not guns.
I have a Century Arms AK and it is decent. Got all the add ons to go with it. Nice weapon and my wife really likes it because it fits her just about right.
I like the AK too. But not as much as my DPMS AR-15. Just a matter of taste I reckon. Either way, thank God I have the freedom to own either one. At least for now. If this ever changes - Going underground and have fun trying to find me.
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After a trip to the range I went back and ordered 2 more of them. At the time they were going for $350.00. Ammoman was selling Russian Mil-Spec 7.62 x 39 for 189.00 a case delivered. I bought 5.
Yea, I've got 'better' rifles. But if someone told me that tomorrow morning I was going to be dropped onto the surface of another planet and could only take one gun, it'd be one of those AK's.
Thats what I own.
Question. How much (average guestimate) and legal in Colorado?
(AK 47 at #6)
One of mine:
“#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.”
I paid $1100 for mine. Colorado, not sure about legality, but I would assume it would be.
Reminds me of this CNN interview..
It has a safety but it takes a strong hand to engage it. I have an M1938, no bayonet lug. Pull the end of the bolt rearward and rotate it so that part of it slides over the right hand portion of the receiver.
Tell me about it! [/sarc] You practically have to bed the rifle in concrete and then use a crane just to pull and rotate that thing. It's easier to keep the chamber clear and your finger off of the trigger until you have a target.
dynachrome, My previous post is what happens when one fails to read all of what is being commented on.
Sweet! Thank you.
This is my DPMS...
Based on my personal combat experience in the Nam for a year and a half I'd have to agree that in a really bad situation and even worse environment I'd have to take the AK-47 every time. I loved my M14 as well and the M16/AR15 just set in the bottom of my tracked vehicle gathering dust. Give me a 47 when the chips are down every time. You just can't beat it for dependability and ruggedness.
Got an M91 stamped 1939 in 7.62x54. Fun to shoot but has a slightly bulged barrell. Not very accurate. Looks good with the bayonet attached.
Not a convenient safety at any rate!
I have 2 91/30s now + the M44.
fun to shoot!
Don't get me wrong - I'm not bad-mouthing AKs (I've got a Russian 5.56, and built two in 7.62x39 that I no longer own) - but I prefer FALs "for dependability and ruggedness."
Just Pick up a SIG 556 Classic last week!!
But as I said on the first posting of this I believe that beauty is when form follows function and there isn't a weapon on the planet that epitomizes that better than Sgt. Kalishnikov's design.
Yea, it could have some burled walnut furniture. Yea, it could have some fancy scrollwork. Nah.....who am I kidding. The beauty of the AK is its rugged utilitarian design, ease of manufacture, nearly flawless reliability, and absolutely unequalled man killing record.
I'm proud to own a few of them and I'm absolutely confident that I made the right choice to buy enough of them to equip my loved ones with them.
the 20# trigger pull on my 91/30 was like a safety, also the worst bolt action I’ve ever manipulated. I’m spoiled though having 5 SMLEs, which are butery smooth.
Don’t know my left from the right. Everything I mentioned is numbered from the left.
“worst bolt action”
Some carry a wooden mallet to clear a “sticky” bolt.
I’m still waiting on my CMP M1 Garand.
But my M1 Carbine will do until then.
Bingo! I've got an 1898 Lee-Enfield carbine, that's faster & smoother than any Krag I've ever handled...
Check out post #20. 7th from the left. Springfield M1 Garand in 30.06. Serial #’s match too. Love shooting that thing.
I’ve heard all my life how British soldiers in 1914 were so skilled in manipulating the SMLE with its 70 degree rotation so fast that the Germans thought the Brits were equipped with automatic weapons.
By the way; my kid (13 y/o) tied for first in his class and has a shoot-off to determine first or second tomorrow. Wooohoo! HUGE!
They are tight and straight...
now thats a family picnic :-)
Most excellent! Let us know how he does. Tell him congrats. from Indy.
I’m Jealous! I ordered a service grade M1 back in May and a can of 06 ammo. Still waiting. Quite a backlog I understand. I got an Email from them last week. They said they were working on the April orders.
The AK is a good rifle. However, I think the M14 is a superior weapon. Same caliber (7.62mm), but the M14 has a larger case, and more ooomph.
I’m sure any liberals reading this thread just shat their pants at the sight of all that firepower! Oohrah!
What are the weapons #1 and 2 from the left? One looks like a Bushmaster and the other a Colt? Is that an 1899 winchester shotgun in the mix?
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interesting , thank you
I'm jealous of the pistol-grip shotgun on the far right. Is that a Mossberg? I'm seriously thinking of a 500 "Tactical Cruiser" - pistol grip only, 18 1/2 barrel... Lots of intimidation factor.
get the pistol gripped buttstock...unless you live in a 6x10 room...
Wise choice grasshopper !!
Sage advice. Absolutely no one can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.
Why do so many people feel a need to qualify their gun ownership by stating that they are "law-abiding"?
Do people who own matches or butane lighters preface the fact by stating that they are "not arsonists"?
Do farmers who use ammonium nitrate fertilizer refer to themselves as "non-terrorists"?
Why do we have to be almost apologetic for owning firearms?
That's how I feel about my AKs, too.
Not sure I was much help, but no problem. I did see one for $850 brand new in the box. Guy had just bought it and then got laid off. I kick myself for not picking it up.
I really like mine. They really aren’t bad weapons if you know how to clean them and cleaning them isn’t hard.
the AK-47 is a direct derivitive of the Sturmgewher 44 — the rifle and ammunition having been optimized by people who knew what they were doing...
do not plan to use an AK for shooting targets though — they ain’t meant for that
AK is not meant to be used that way
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