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Brett Favre, Michael Vick and the Politics of Sports
Politics Daily ^ | 8/31/09 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 08/31/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by OneVike

Edited on 08/31/2009 8:55:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Football season is right around the corner, and two big stories have dominated the run-up to it: The return of Brett Favre and Michael Vick.

Vick, of course, is returning to football after serving a prison sentence for a dog-fighting conviction. Favre is an aging legend destined for the Hall of Fame, so his coming out of retirement (again) would be notable under any circumstances. But his return this year is especially noteworthy because of the team he has chosen to play for. The Minnesota Vikings, of course, are the dreaded and hated arch-enemies of his old team, the Green Bay Packers.


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Well, I'm stuck with him now. I have no choice, but to cheer for him. Maybe he has one last season of greatness.

It could happen.

1 posted on 08/31/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

Things will be interesting this year among my wife’s family. She’s a diehard Viking’s fan (along with our youngest daughter), while many of her family are cheeseheads in the worse way. The bickering began on Facebook shortly after the announcement that Favre had become a Viking. It might just create a “schism” in her family (had to use the same word the media used with regard to the few Viking’s players who are unhappy about Favre - LOL).


2 posted on 08/31/2009 8:48:57 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: SoldierDad

If the Vikes win with Favre all that bickering goes away, just like John Madden said, “Winning is a great deodorant.”


3 posted on 08/31/2009 8:49:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OneVike

You guys have a good running back - last time I looked. If he continues to be good, Farve - and the Vikes - can have a great season. That was the main reason of his last great year at GB. Their RB caught on fire and was nearly unstoppable. Farve did not have to carry the team on his shoulders. QBs can only do so much. Hell, look at Elway. Once the Broncos got a grade A RB, they won two SBs. Imagine what they could have done if they had a great RB in their other SB appearances.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 8:52:01 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

Favre is going to have a nice weapon in Percy Harvin as well.


5 posted on 08/31/2009 8:52:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The bickering between members of the Viking’s team perhaps will disapear if Favre does well. But, between my brother-in-law and my wife and daughter? Not in the least.


6 posted on 08/31/2009 8:53:37 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneVike

You guys are totally ignoring the real story: who will Tony Romo’s next celebrity girlfriend be ???


7 posted on 08/31/2009 8:55:42 AM PDT by altura (http://auntmarysdailymusings.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator

I chose him as my sleeper receiver, in my Fantasy league along with Wells of Arizona, I also ended up with Fitzgerald and Drew Brees. (sp?) I could have a better year the my beloved Vikes.


8 posted on 08/31/2009 8:56:11 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: altura
You guys are totally ignoring the real story: who will Tony Romo’s next celebrity girlfriend be ???

Miley Cyrus?

9 posted on 08/31/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OneVike

“The United States has become a place where entertainers and professional athletes are mistaken for people of importance. “ Robert A. Heinlein


10 posted on 08/31/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Amen to that.


11 posted on 08/31/2009 8:59:49 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Maybe he has one last season of greatness.

It could happen.

I want Bud Grant there if ‘it’ does happen. :-)

The TwinKies have 2 ,, the Vikes 0 championships.


12 posted on 08/31/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

That would be sweet, and in my opinion there is not a greater coach in all of football histua!


13 posted on 08/31/2009 9:06:37 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Thank you. Usually, when I post that quotation in response to some news about a sports figure or team, I get attacked by the Freepers who are sports fans.


14 posted on 08/31/2009 9:10:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: OneVike

I’m going to sit back and watch this NFL season. I expect Brett Favre to have 28 TD passes (Terry Bradshaw’s best ever season) and chuckle as ESPN announcers describe Favre as a failure. Brett Favre, to the liberals at ESPN (they’re libs, if they were better as journalists they’d be working at Huffpo or the NYT or ABC) hate Favre because he represents your average American guy. The traditional guy, a country boy. The left hates that as an image and if today’s youth looks up to Brett Favre, the left is worried that they’ll want to emulate traditional American values.


15 posted on 08/31/2009 9:16:11 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: NormsRevenge

1969 NFL champions, and you can look it up. Super Bowl IV was the last one played before the merger.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 9:17:57 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Daveinyork

I am man of God first, and God has no home team favorite in sports.

My guess would be, that if there were a graduation rank in percentages of the members of any certain job or trade, well I do believe that sports heroes would have a percentage of members making it to heaven that would rival that of politicians and media personal.

I am a die hard Viking who bleeds purple, but if Christ came when I was watching my Vikings, and they were down by four points with 2 seconds left in the Superbowl with the ball on the goal line with the ball, guess what?

I would walk away gladly and follow my Lord.


17 posted on 08/31/2009 9:19:56 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SoldierDad

same situation here with my wife and her family. all cheese all the time. while my son, daughter anad new son-in-law all bleed purple. I had to marry her because I felt I had a civic duty to start breeding it out of them. so far so good.


18 posted on 08/31/2009 9:25:24 AM PDT by vikzilla
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To: vikzilla

My wife’s family are all 49ers, and I like you felt it was an obligation to society to dwindle the number of fans the 49ers have.

She is now a purple people eater supporter whom her family considers a traitor. They do have fun flashing their titles in my face, but revenge if mine.

Some day, some day.


19 posted on 08/31/2009 9:31:44 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Favre going to the Vikings is still nothing compared to Rick Pitino going to Louiville after coaching Kentucky or Nick Saban going to Alabama after coaching LSU.


20 posted on 08/31/2009 9:41:28 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: OneVike
Well, I'm stuck with him now. I have no choice, but to cheer for him.

I felt the exact same way when Terrell Owens became a Cowboy.
21 posted on 08/31/2009 9:44:21 AM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: altura

Ugh...Romo is a dirty word in our house. Hubby got up during the game, said “No Mo’ Romo!” and walked out of the house, LOL!


22 posted on 08/31/2009 9:46:43 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: SoldierDad

The schism in your wife’s family is happening all over Wisconsin and Packer fans, but the Chico boy Rodgers will do good. By the end of the year he will have the packer fans eating out of his hands. That kid is going to be a head ache for the NFC North for the next ten years or more. My guess is he will retire with a couple SB trophies.

Hate to admit it, but he is real good. He is better than Favre ever was. Favre was always real easy to rattle, that is why he never did very well in the Dome. Too loud and then the defense would do the rest and before long he was throwing ints to the wrong players.

Remember, a majority of the Packers seasons ended with Favre throwing interceptions as he tried to do it all. He never has been a real good team player, he has always been about Favre. The antics he pulled this past summer and the way he skipped training camp just to join after he saw we had a good team after the first Pre-season game says it all.

I will have to cheer him as I said, but mark my words, by the 10th game of the season he will be forcing things and losing games, just as he did with the Jets last year and the Packers in their last NFC championship game.

I am afraid that the Packer fans will be having the last laugh as Rodgers wins the division and takes them farther than Favre does the Vikings.

Ask me after the season starts and I will deny I said any of this. As a matter of fact, this comment will self destruct at the beginning if the season when I become a dies hard swallow the Kool-aid Viking again and I again lose all sense of objectivity.

I am after all a Viking to my death.

Go Vikings!


23 posted on 08/31/2009 9:51:22 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I put them all in the same pot. Sports teams, with billionnaire owners, and millionnaire players, blackmail politicians into robbing the taxpayers to build their stadiums for them. A pox on all of them.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 9:51:28 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: vikzilla

LOL - that’s funny. I grew up in North CA, so I was raised a 49er fan (43 years now). I met my wife in N. Dakota (stationed at Minot AFB). That’s the Viking connection - Minnesota is the closest pro team. I’m not sure how the rest of her family globbed onto the Packers.


25 posted on 08/31/2009 10:13:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneVike

Having watched Rodgers playing youth football and high school football (he played youth football with my sons), I’m not so optomistic about his long term career. We’ll have to wait and see. He also has a tendency to become rattled in the pocket, but that might go away with experience. It will also depend upon the tools he has in his running backs and receivers. A QB can’t do everything as evidenced by Farve’s post-season performances.


26 posted on 08/31/2009 10:16:52 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: SoldierDad

Interesting, what kind of attitude does he have. I have heard his younger brother is a bit of a premadaona.(sp?)


27 posted on 08/31/2009 10:26:35 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Daveinyork

Do you think Heinlein saw the irony in him (an entertainer) saying that?


28 posted on 08/31/2009 10:31:19 AM PDT by discostu (When I'm walking a dark road I am a man who walks alone)
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To: discostu

“Do you think Heinlein saw the irony in him (an entertainer) saying that?”

Who knows? But, I never got the impression that he took himself too seriously.


29 posted on 08/31/2009 10:35:43 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

I don’t know about that. Heinlein made a lot of bold declarations about how things should be and how people should behave. Certainly enjoyed his celebrity status and the pulpit it gave him.


30 posted on 08/31/2009 10:41:17 AM PDT by discostu (When I'm walking a dark road I am a man who walks alone)
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To: OneVike

Wow. Proclaiming Aaron Rogers a sure shot HoFer with a grand total of one full season behind center? A guy with 59 passes in the NFL prior to last season. Led his team to a grand total of 6 victories last year.

But I know what you’re really up to. Trying to get the pack to be overconfident. Very clever.


31 posted on 08/31/2009 10:57:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: OneVike

Just a question OneVike - you stated throwing int’s to the wrong players. How do you throw an int to the right player? ;-)


32 posted on 08/31/2009 11:05:29 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson; dmz
DMZ, you caught onto my ploy, busted....LOL

7thson, Just a question OneVike - you stated throwing int’s to the wrong players. How do you throw an int to the right player? ;-)

I really do need to read my comments a lot closer in the future, But if you must know it is like this.

When an apposing QB throws a pass and my team intercepts, but the player who picked the pass off does not return it for a TD, then the QB obviously threw an int to the wrong player.

So to get myself out of this obvious corner I have peinted myself in, I would conclude that,
A.) Not only did the QB miss his own player with the pass, but
B.) He also missed the guy who could have returned it for 7. Thus
C.) Said QB threw an int to the wrong player, and so
D.) Bret Favre does something only he can do, and that is throw the pass to the wrong player twice in the same play.

There, I like that, and it only took me about 20 minutes to figure that out. Hey, I have been hating on Favre for a very long time.
33 posted on 08/31/2009 11:24:16 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

It tends to run in the family I think. He was always respectful with adults, but peers - not so much.


34 posted on 08/31/2009 11:43:42 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: OneVike
LOL.

Your ABCD construction reminds me of a paper I read as a philosophy student in the late 70s, Gettier's Is Justified True Belief Knowledge wherein the necessary conditions are established that allow one to say that they know something.

Thanks for the headache :-)

35 posted on 08/31/2009 12:05:15 PM PDT by dmz
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To: OneVike

I love it! 8-)


36 posted on 08/31/2009 12:05:45 PM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: BertWheeler

When did it become a “traditional American value” to sign up with one’s arch-rival? “Betrayal” seems a better word for it.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 12:17:23 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: dmz

No problem, really. :>)

I grew up in Duluth which is right on the border of Minn and Wisc. I spent many a day justifying my Vikings against half my friends who were packer fans in such ways. It was kind of like trying to find new and better disgusting ways to insult each others parents.

It really was a lesson that should have prepared me for journalism or politics, but alas I would rather have cheered for the packers than ever joining one of those professions.

All joking aside, my season of football enjoyment is only truly complete if my Vikings prevail against the packers, at least in Green Bay. OK, I like watching them lose always, even to the Cowboys which I hate with a passion that I fear may even send me to hell.

Well, er, ah, right next to the disgust I feel for the Steelers, Raiders, Dolphins, and Chiefs.

I really am not bitter, it just takes awhile for me to get over a loss. LOL


38 posted on 08/31/2009 12:31:37 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SoldierDad

So do you think that will inevitably cause trouble with his teammates? I mean one can hope anyway.


39 posted on 08/31/2009 12:32:55 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SoothingDave

Very true.


40 posted on 08/31/2009 12:35:38 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: BertWheeler; SoothingDave

If it would make you two feel better, Green bay can have him back, that is if we can have Rodgers. After all he has yet to grow on them.

Actually, I thought Sage was doing just fine, we could have traded TJ for a mid level round pick and maybe give David Booty a chance to prove himself.


41 posted on 08/31/2009 12:41:17 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I’m a Steeler fan. Favre could have retired and had a nice legacy. Instead he besoiled himself with his prima donna antics last year, then compounded the problem with treachery this year.

It’s disgraceful.


42 posted on 08/31/2009 12:48:48 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: OneVike

Green Bay is a cold place to play football. The weather in Minnesota is much warmer.


43 posted on 08/31/2009 1:40:00 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: BertWheeler

Especially since they have a dome, but do not be fooled into thinking it is warmer in GB than it is outside in Minnesota.

I think it has something to do with all the hot air coming from the packer fans that makes warmer there.


44 posted on 08/31/2009 1:53:14 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Hard to say. He was a teenager at that time. He could have matured. We’ll both have to watch and see - and hope ;0)


45 posted on 09/01/2009 7:55:38 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: altura

He better hurry up if he wants her to distract him in December lol.


46 posted on 09/08/2009 6:48:23 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: OneVike

Favre was playing great for the Jets until he hurt his shoulder. The Jets were 8-3 and had just defeated the undefeated Titans. Then Favre got hurt and he and the Jets unravelled. Favre has plenty left, 2 years ago he was one of the top QB’s in the league and was within 1 game of the Superbowl. He was one of the best QB’s in the league last year until he got hurt.


47 posted on 09/08/2009 6:52:18 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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