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Family fears vaccine led to girl's illness
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Sun, Sep. 13, 2009 | SUZANNE PEREZ TOBIAS

Posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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To: mysterio

It’s a well known FACT that there is a risk associated with vaccines, and some people are sensitive to the base metals used in them as well.

I don’t think it’s funny at all. People should be aware of these risks, as well as the risks of NOT getting some vaccines.
Concerning Garasil, this is far from a proven vaccine, and the higher than normal rates of complications is something to be concerned about, especially considering it isn’t all that effective in the first place.


41 posted on 09/13/2009 8:38:15 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: metmom

you say “This was developed and marketed by Merck, hardly a name in the pharm industry associated with integrity considering some of the products they have marketed and the number of people those have killed.”

So right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0


42 posted on 09/13/2009 8:39:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: DJ MacWoW

HPV infections often cause a worried “victim?” to rush to the hospital in shame. There isn’t much that can be done about it other than prescribing some lotions. It can often lead to secondary staff infections as well.


43 posted on 09/13/2009 8:45:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: machogirl
Frightening - even a Dr. at Merck who helped develop this vaccine doesn't recommend it

“She also says that enough serious side effects have been reported after Gardasil use that the vaccine could prove riskier than the cervical cancer it purports to prevent. Cervical cancer is usually entirely curable when detected early through normal Pap screenings.”

thanks for the link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/cbsnews_investigates/main5253431.shtml

44 posted on 09/13/2009 8:46:49 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Nathan Zachary
HPV infections often cause a worried “victim?” to rush to the hospital in shame.

Do you mean genital warts? They do have drugs that sort of control outbreaks. My son makes fun of the commercials. You don't wanna know! LOL

45 posted on 09/13/2009 8:50:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: maine-iac7

Gardasil may actually prove to cause an increase of cervical cancer cases because women thinking they are “protected” may put off getting an annual pap smear.
Time will tell as all these young girls get into their twenties and thirties.


46 posted on 09/13/2009 8:52:43 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: maine-iac7

“Money, pure and simple”

But they’re trying to take a vaccine for cervical cancer and market it to men and boys. I must be missing something.


47 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:28 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Nathan Zachary
It’s a well known FACT that there is a risk associated with vaccines, and some people are sensitive to the base metals used in them as well.

Which is why you should immediately amputate your arm to alleviate some of the risk.

I don’t think it’s funny at all.

Me neither. There's a time for everything, and now is the time to panic over vaccines.

Concerning Garasil, this is far from a proven vaccine, and the higher than normal rates of complications is something to be concerned about, especially considering it isn’t all that effective in the first place.

That's true. I trust this post more than I trust the number of peer-reviewed articles that don't support this statement.

Also, I hear the flu vaccine causes sore eyes and curly hair.
48 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:37 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: DJ MacWoW

No no, just unusual inflammation of soft tissues. Sometimes they can look quite alarming.


49 posted on 09/13/2009 8:55:46 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW

like cellulosis


50 posted on 09/13/2009 8:56:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: mysterio

Gee, are you ever funny. ha ha. how old are you, 8?


51 posted on 09/13/2009 9:00:05 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ElayneJ
But they’re trying to take a vaccine for cervical cancer and market it to men and boys. I must be missing something.

HPV is a virus that men can also catch and spread. Genital warts are caused by one of the HPV's.

52 posted on 09/13/2009 9:03:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Ok. Got it.


53 posted on 09/13/2009 9:05:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Gee, are you ever funny. ha ha. how old are you, 8?

No, I'm part of the big pharm conspiracy. This will only hurt for a minute.
54 posted on 09/13/2009 9:06:54 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: conservative cat

I skipped it for my 7th grade twin daughters.

My daughter has some issues:neurological and a heart arrhythmia). Her cardiologist strongly supported getting the yearly flu vaccine, but thought we could wait on deciding about gaurdisil.

When my daughters are 16. I’ll see what is happening with side-effects, and then we’ll discuss it again with the doctors.


55 posted on 09/13/2009 9:13:40 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: mysterio
We're all pleased that you are amused by such a serious subject.

You do understand that less than 1% of women get cervical cancer? And that women will mistakenly believe that this vaccine will prevent cancer so they may not keep up with paps smears, the very thing that lowered the rate of cervical cancer?

It isn't just the vaccine that is dangerous. The "hype" is too.

56 posted on 09/13/2009 9:13:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
again, no direct link. Does the report actually show an actual link or is it just coincidental? Have you ever researched or done controlled studies before? Have you any science training or background? If so, you’d know that this is bull crap because if there was a direct causation, the vaccine would be pulled ASAP. I take it you don’t otherwise you’d know what I know.

I have posted links - but I'll post em again = just for you...and others here have posted other links. I guess you missed them also?

you are spewing nonsense - as well as either showing colossal naivete - or ???

I quoted and gave links to reputable institutions - and asked if you had more training. Do You, more than CDC, more than the people at the very outfit who makes the vaccine - who say they won't take it - and the Dr. who helped develop it who warns against it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

So, what DO you know that they all - and we - don't. Enlighten us.

Your moniker seems to fit tho...maybe Merck makes a chill pill you could benefit from.

57 posted on 09/13/2009 9:14:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mysterio

Vaccines have side effects. For any vaccine, you have to weigh the benefits of the vaccine against those risks.

For example, I’ve never gotten the Flu vaccine. I could get the flu, but I’m highly unlikely to die from it. And I could die from the flu shot.

I’ve had my children vaccinated for just about everything they make vaccines for. I suppose the Chicken Pox vaccination was the hardest to justify, because most of us grew up with the idea that you should get Chicken Pox as a kid.

Anyway, I’m not pushing my daughter to get this vaccine. Because the “risk” can be almost entirely controlled, while the risk of the vaccine cannot be.

In other words, even if “on average” the risk of the vaccine is greater than the risk of the disease, that’s not true for people who control their lifestyles.


58 posted on 09/13/2009 9:17:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mysterio

I am definitely not an anti-vaccine zealot.

In fact, I’m one of the ones looking forward to the swine flu shot being available.

However, I see no reason for my 13 year old daughters who are not sexually active to get a shot that prevents a sexually transmitted disease. They aren’t going to get it right now, so why give them the shot.

There are risks to vaccines, so you want to avoid them if possible. You also need to be aware of who is at most risk for having a problem with side effects.


59 posted on 09/13/2009 9:19:33 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: CharlesWayneCT
For example, I’ve never gotten the Flu vaccine. I could get the flu, but I’m highly unlikely to die from it. And I could die from the flu shot.

*Holding bucket; gazes out at the Pacific. Drops bucket; walks away.*
60 posted on 09/13/2009 9:32:01 PM PDT by mysterio
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