Posted on 09/19/2009 4:30:14 PM PDT by Lurker
As always the opinions posted are mine, your mileage may vary, and any technical errors are mine and mine alone.
That can't be cheap.
L
it’s still cheaper than 380ACP which is it’s nearest equivalent
Thanks for the Saturday evening gun porn.
Looks like a knock-off of the Walther PPK.
That's surprising. You would think that the .380 popularity would drive down the production cost and subsequent price of the more boutique type of ammo. My .45 is costing me an arm & leg to go to the ranch. I'm looking for a more inexpensive alternative, but I don't really want to schlep all the way down to a 9mm.
Recoil on this piece is very manageable. I had no trouble with a quick follow up shot or two.
I do have to say that the sights are crude and would benefit from a drop of white paint on the front.
I've ordered a couple of thousand more rounds; 1K of FMJ and 1K of the Russian hollow points. I'm going to order two more of the pistols, too. One will go in Mrs. L's Camelback after a Durakoat treatment and the third will be used for parts should we ever need them.
Like I said, these things ain't Colts or Kimbers. But they ain't $900 a copy, either.
L
You’re quite welcome.
But the PPK is chambered for the weaker .380 cartridge (.32 is available but why bother), has a magazine capacity of only 8. The Walther also retails for over $500 new. You can buy two of these AND ammo for the price of one Walther.
Nothing against the Walthers, they're damn fine pistols. But if you're looking for a low-cost, well made, reliable, and cheap to shoot pistol I think these CZ's are worth picking up.
Strictly my opinion.
L
yeah everything is still expensive right now, I’m lucky that I had a good supply on hand and I reload for everything I can.
That is cheap - about $9 a box less than what I'm paying now. And, about $7 bucks a box cheaper than my local gun store sells .380 (Federal).
CZ is an old and well respected firearms maker. I have had a couple of old CZ made K98s that I liked a lot.
Reminds me of the Makarov, which I love. If it’s good enogh for the KGB, it’s good enough for me.
Used to have a Hungarian PA-63 pistol in 9X18 Mak. Looked like a PPK with an light alloy frame. At the time, 9X18 Makarov was not comon in the US. Surplus hardball ammo was about it. I worked up some handloads and discovered that bore diameter could range from .363 to .367, making a difference in accuracy. The bore on my gun was toward the higher side so I got best results with a Hornaday hollow-point with a .366 diameter. Accuracy was good for a gun of this type and the ballistics were between a .380 and a 9X19. The PA-63 served as a “house gun” for some time, including an incident when the little PA-63 was stuck in my belt when the police arrived. Later, Hornaday marketed a load similar to the one I had worked up. While I’d be partial to a handgun with a bit more “oomph,” you could do a lot worse than one of these Eastern Bloc handguns for home defense.
Heck it's even cheaper than far weaker .380 ammo. So I figured 'why the heck not?'.
Nobody is ever going to win a match with one of these, but that's not why I bought it. These guns are going into the "Oh Crap!" kits we keep in our cars. The gun, a couple spare mags, and two boxes of ammo will set us back less than $350 or so a piece.
You can't beat that with a stick.
Believe me both Mrs L and I own and regularly shoot 'better' guns, but we're not going to toss the Colts, Springfields, or S&W's into the trunk and just leave them there.
While not perfect, I think these things are a pretty good choice for that purpose.
Thanks for the info. As frequently as I go the range, it would pay for itself in well less than a year just from the savings on ammo.
As you can see from the images I posted this particular gun seems to be 'combat accurate'.
Thanks for the review of the CZ-82. I brought a CZ-82 from J&G earlier this year along with a PSL-54C and a Mosin 91/30 and I agree with your review. The CZ-82 is a nice, cheap handgun for someone who is a first time gun buyer as well.
Glad to know that I was not the only one struggling to get the last two bullets into the mag.
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