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The Subtle Art of Beer Snobbery
Modern Drunkard magazine ^ | October, 2009 | Frank Rich

Posted on 11/02/2009 5:15:14 PM PST by dynachrome

While wine snobs have blighted the earth for thousands of years (you can bet there was at least one guy curling his lip at the vintage of Jesus’ first and best miracle), beer snobbery is a relatively young art, especially in the U.S.

This is because every beer in the country once tasted exactly the same. Oh sure, there were Bud lovers and MGD aficionados who would swear they could tell the difference, but if you gave them a blind taste test, you’d soon discover they’d just keep asking for another “test taste” until there wasn’t any beer left and they were passed out on your sofa.

Furthermore, beer was considered the balm of the common man, it was not something you swirled in a glass and judged by its “nose.” It was something you swilled from a plastic cup and sometimes shot through your nose.

Then the microbrewery revolution swept the country and soon every abandoned firehouse, bank and shoe factory was outfitted with a vat and turning out every possible form and flavor of beer you could imagine, and some you would rather not.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Humor; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: beer; judging; moderndrunkard; snobs
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To: Randy Larsen

Hell, just the name scares me!


51 posted on 11/02/2009 6:02:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mamelukesabre
I think I'll pass on that, thanks! In my youth, I drank enough bad beer to last a lifetime.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
52 posted on 11/02/2009 6:04:23 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: mamelukesabre

I hate to admit this, but if it werent for the Germans in Texas we would be horribly lost on the production of beer.

Lone Star, Pearl... blech!


53 posted on 11/02/2009 6:06:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
A nice Maryland brew from Clipper City Brewery near Baltimore:



Lamh Foistenach Abu!
54 posted on 11/02/2009 6:07:55 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Lots of nice offering here. http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/


55 posted on 11/02/2009 6:09:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I'm also partial to several from among the litter of ales from Flying Dog in Denver. Unleash the dogs! Chain the humans!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
56 posted on 11/02/2009 6:10:19 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Defiant

The writer’s full name is Frank Kelly Rich, probably signs that way so no one will mistake him for that scum from the NYT


57 posted on 11/02/2009 6:11:29 PM PST by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: mylife
Haven't seen them before - I'll have to give them a try.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
58 posted on 11/02/2009 6:11:43 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: dynachrome

Preferring the *taste*of the more expensive Belgian and German led me to start home-brewing. Even with higher raw ingredients I can still brew a high-quality and favorable brew for about $0.85 per 16 oz glass. That’s just raw ingredients, not including my time but it’s a hobby and form of relaxation so that’s not a factor.

I agree that most beer drinkers may nopt be able to tell the difference between Miller, PBR, Bud, etc to that of a Weihenstephan or similar lager but trust me, some people can tell. Hand a Bud/Miller/PBR/etc drinker say a Rochefort 10 and I’m sure they’ll spit it out and write it off as nasty beer.

Most wine drinkers probably can’t tell the difference between Trader Joe’s Two-Buck Chuck and say a Seghesio Sonoma Zinfandel either.


59 posted on 11/02/2009 6:12:25 PM PST by ATLDiver
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To: mamelukesabre

Very little better than Irish stout.


60 posted on 11/02/2009 6:14:28 PM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I am scared to visit this place.

Its just down the rd http://www.beerknurd.com/stores/thelake


61 posted on 11/02/2009 6:14:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I aways have a few when I go back home


62 posted on 11/02/2009 6:15:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That’s it!


63 posted on 11/02/2009 6:16:24 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: mylife

That’s a good place—you should also try the Ginger Man if you’re in Dallas.


64 posted on 11/02/2009 6:19:20 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: Buck W.

I hate to drive that far if I am gonna have a brew.

The flying saucer is 20 mi down the road and thats to far LoL


65 posted on 11/02/2009 6:20:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Eagle Eye

Irish whiskey...


66 posted on 11/02/2009 6:23:01 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mylife

PBR or Guinness. None of that foo foo beer for llev.


67 posted on 11/02/2009 6:59:39 PM PST by llevrok (As a matter of fact, yes I DO care if Jimmy cracks corn !)
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To: llevrok

LoL

I got nothin against PBR


68 posted on 11/02/2009 7:02:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dynachrome; quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; ..
Pinging the epitome of beer snobbery for thoughtful and biting answers.

Or drunken ramblings.

Whichever...




On or off the Homebrewers Ping List, let me know.


Cheers,

knewshound

Homebrewing 1A (Homebrewing for beginners)

Homebrewing 101 (for experienced Homebrewers)
69 posted on 11/02/2009 7:07:42 PM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: precisionshootist
Don’t try it unless you want to get absolutely spoiled on $13 per bottle beer.

Its a bit of work, but the yeast in Chimay is alive, so you can use the dregs of the bottle to make a yeast starter, and brew your own.

70 posted on 11/02/2009 7:11:33 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: dynachrome
Eponymous BTTT.


71 posted on 11/02/2009 7:18:42 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: dynachrome

72 posted on 11/02/2009 7:23:53 PM PST by Hardshell
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To: llevrok
Try Kirin Ichiban, Smithwick's, or Mississippi Mud.

That is all.

Cheers!

73 posted on 11/02/2009 7:25:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Pilsner

Not hard to do, just make a starter and find a Chimay Blue recipe which is abundant on the interwebs. Beer Captured has probably the closest that I’ve tried but most of the Trappist brews readily give out their recipe. Westmalle comes to mind, they even have been known to give a sample of their yeast to visitors willing to worship for the day and sit in on a brewing session.


74 posted on 11/02/2009 7:26:45 PM PST by ATLDiver
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To: mylife

75 posted on 11/02/2009 7:27:16 PM PST by wolf24
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To: ConorMacNessa

I’m a big fan of the Flying Dog Hefeweizen. Very tasty — very well-made.


76 posted on 11/02/2009 7:30:11 PM PST by wolf24
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To: wolf24

I am not a huge fan of wheat beer, but I like it alright.

I had an interesting rye beer a while back


77 posted on 11/02/2009 7:31:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dynachrome

According to George 'Norm' Wendt, the best beer is FREE and FREE Light. ;o)
78 posted on 11/02/2009 7:36:39 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Buck W.

Le Fin du Monde

&&
You sure you want to drink The End of the World?


79 posted on 11/02/2009 8:00:03 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Bigg Red

It’s a fine brew.


80 posted on 11/02/2009 8:07:09 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: knews_hound

Ad me to your list -thanks


81 posted on 11/02/2009 8:27:27 PM PST by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: Darren McCarty

Not at all...a completely different thing. Guinness is good, but Chimay Blue is intense and complex. I like both of them.

I generally like to drink the beer I brew, though. I haven’t tried brewing a Belgian Ale, though.


82 posted on 11/02/2009 8:37:05 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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I Like Beer bunp.


83 posted on 11/02/2009 8:39:12 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: mylife
Yes! I buy this!

I believe this is the world's finest brew, better (slightly) than even Warsteiner Dunkel.

CA....

84 posted on 11/02/2009 9:57:19 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've at last found that silly grin!)
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To: mamelukesabre

ahhh...Steel Reserve. The Nectar of The Slobs... :)


85 posted on 11/03/2009 4:38:59 AM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: dynachrome

make mine dogfish 60!


86 posted on 11/03/2009 4:58:49 AM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'en Commie Basterd!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Jameson is my friend.

I have very few rules in life but one I ALWAYA obey is this:

I never drink unless I am alone or with someone.


87 posted on 11/03/2009 5:21:21 AM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: mylife
$12 the bottle

So, for two bottles of this crap, I could brew 5 gallons of my own home brew.

88 posted on 11/03/2009 6:16:03 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Eagle Eye
I never drink unless I am alone or with someone.

Now that's a philosophy I can agree with.

89 posted on 11/03/2009 6:22:52 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: ezoeni

Welcome to the most exclusive ping list on FR.

Cheers,

knewshound


90 posted on 11/03/2009 7:14:17 AM PST by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: digger48

91 posted on 11/03/2009 7:17:58 AM PST by petercooper (GOP: Big Tent Party??? Not if you are a CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: dynachrome
My current personal favorite:


92 posted on 11/03/2009 7:22:33 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Darren McCarty

It does not taste at all like guinness, but can be mixed with it to make a “Black and Black”.


93 posted on 11/03/2009 7:27:25 AM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: mamelukesabre
I homebrew and my product is oftentimes nasty and undrinkable.

I mix it with Steel Reserve or something similar so I don't gag, kinda like a Balack and Tan. True story.

94 posted on 11/03/2009 7:30:36 AM PST by I Buried My Guns
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To: B Knotts

“Not at all...a completely different thing. Guinness is good, but Chimay Blue is intense and complex. I like both of them.”

guinness is also a shadow of its former self. I can remember in the early 90s drinking it bottled and bottle-conditioned - the beer was so complex it tasted great warm. i still vividly remember driving to atlanta to buy a bunch of cases, only to get home and find 1) the back label had changed and 2) it tasteed a lot worse (didnt understand the bottle-conditioning change until years later).

the current product has been unrecognizable to me for over a decade. there are much better irish stouts out there, though sourcing can be tricky...


95 posted on 11/03/2009 7:51:53 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: rzeznikj at stout; GOP_Raider; Rodney King; Tainan; Chasaway; SquirrelKing; dynachrome; ...

Beer Ping!

A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer…

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or GOP_Raider to be added or struck from the list…

96 posted on 11/03/2009 9:00:34 AM PST by GOP_Raider (You can now check out GOP_Raider on Twitter at twitter.com/RaiderUte)
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To: Disciplinemisanthropy

No Sam Adams I’ve ever tasted was any good, so why would a special glass make it any better??


97 posted on 11/03/2009 9:43:08 AM PST by Penn_Cajun
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To: Penn_Cajun
Have you tried this?


98 posted on 11/03/2009 9:50:15 AM PST by wastedyears (My 15 seconds of fame are on my profile.)
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To: dynachrome
I've been a homebrewer and craft beer drinker since I was 18, but that doesn't make me a beer snob. It just makes me appreciate even more all the different styles of beer there are. Even “standard American lite lager” is a respectable beer style and those craft brewers who dismiss it are doing a disservice to their fellow beer lovers.
99 posted on 11/03/2009 10:01:59 AM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

I homebrew also. Although I havn’t boiled up a batch of wort in over a year.

I found that if I have a particularly nasty tasting batch...let it age for 6 months or more and taste again. You’ll be surprised how much better it is.


100 posted on 11/03/2009 11:04:54 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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