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Mini ice age took hold of Europe in months
New Scientist ^ | Nov 11, 2009 | Kate Ravilious

Posted on 11/13/2009 4:48:50 PM PST by decimon

JUST months - that's how long it took for Europe to be engulfed by an ice age. The scenario, which comes straight out of Hollywood blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow, was revealed by the most precise record of the climate from palaeohistory ever generated.

Around 12,800 years ago the northern hemisphere was hit by the Younger Dryas mini ice age, or "Big Freeze". It was triggered by the slowdown of the Gulf Stream, led to the decline of the Clovis culture in North America, and lasted around 1300 years.

Until now, it was thought that the mini ice age took a decade or so to take hold, on the evidence provided by Greenland ice cores. Not so, say William Patterson of the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, Canada, and his colleagues.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; climate; clovisimpact; emiliospedicato; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; sahara; science; spedicato; youngerdryas
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1 posted on 11/13/2009 4:48:50 PM PST by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Conveying Canada ping.


2 posted on 11/13/2009 4:51:15 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
No!

Wasn't it millions of years?

How can it only be MONTHS?

Sarcasm off. I suppose it depends on Who you see as being in charge. God or man? God can do whatever He wants as quickly or as long as He wants it to be.

3 posted on 11/13/2009 4:53:32 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Wasn't it millions of years?

Huh? Wasn't what millions of years?

4 posted on 11/13/2009 4:56:23 PM PST by decimon
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There are a number of scientists who speculate some sort of impact event--either from a big meteor or comet--some 12,800 years ago that essentially wiped out just about all mammal life forms, including a fairly sizable early homo sapiens population--in North America itself. That's why human culture in North America was so distinctly different before and after that supposed impact.
5 posted on 11/13/2009 4:58:57 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 11/13/2009 4:59:31 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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7 posted on 11/13/2009 4:59:47 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: decimon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Agassiz

Lake Agassiz would do that.


8 posted on 11/13/2009 5:02:05 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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Thanks decimon! The medieval "Little Ice Age" also took hold quickly.
 
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9 posted on 11/13/2009 5:10:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Thanks decimon.

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10 posted on 11/13/2009 5:11:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


11 posted on 11/13/2009 5:13:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv; decimon

Years ago there was a show on PBS about climate.

Some egghead types had gone into Canada somewhere to take core sediment samples from a lake, I forget which one.

By studying the size of the sediment particles, the pollen in the samples, etc. They were able to map out timewise exactly how long it had taken from this particular area to go from a moderately warm, temperate climate to full-scale, deep freeze ice age.

We’re talking glaciers and ice caps hundreds of feet thick.

Ninety years.


12 posted on 11/13/2009 5:17:15 PM PST by djf (Maybe life ain't about the doing - maybe it's just the trying... Hey, I don't make the rules!)
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Patterson's team have now set their sights on even more precise records of historical climate. They have built a robot able to shave 0.05 micrometre slivers along the growth lines of fossilised clam shells, giving a resolution of less than a day. "We can get you mid-July temperatures from 400 million years ago," he says.

Impressive, if they can pull this off.

13 posted on 11/13/2009 5:20:44 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: SunkenCiv; decimon

Git-r-done.

Didn’t it seem like just a month or two ago it was warm and now when I go outside I freeze to death. How can that happen. Weird.


14 posted on 11/13/2009 5:20:46 PM PST by bigheadfred (I'm trying to remember. Did I wake up happy today?)
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To: djf; SunkenCiv

Being a bit geezerly I recall some speculations from decades ago. One was that ice ages do or can occur quickly.

Someone claimed there were fossils showing animals frozen while still eating. The reason for that was speculated to be the Earth shifting suddenly on its axis. That would of course mean a shifting of the frozen poles and not a general cooling of the planet.


15 posted on 11/13/2009 5:32:23 PM PST by decimon
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former shorelines, Lake Agassiz, North Dakota.

16 posted on 11/13/2009 5:54:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Snickering Hound

That should be it. Or was it.


17 posted on 11/13/2009 6:00:49 PM PST by decimon
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To: Fred Nerks

I wonder what made the old shorelines so straight and right-angled?


18 posted on 11/13/2009 6:29:25 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: SunkenCiv

So now we have three sizes of ice ages?

There are Little Ice Ages, like those of the Dark Age and the late Medieval period, which bring great illnesses and crop failures. There are mini Ice Ages, like the Later Dryas, which cause cataclysmic regional population collapses. Lastly full scale Ice Ages, which bring cataclysmic climate change on a global level.

Has much been done to quantify these distinctions?


19 posted on 11/13/2009 6:30:44 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (a wild-eyed, exclusionist, birther religio-beast -- Daily Kos)
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Cave Study Links Climate Change To California Droughts
ScienceDaily | November 10, 2009 | unattributed
Posted on 11/13/2009 6:27:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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20 posted on 11/13/2009 6:34:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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