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Darwinism and the adoption of Chinese Marxism
Science Literature ^ | November 20, 2009 | David Tyler

Posted on 11/23/2009 9:37:11 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Darwinism and the adoption of Chinese Marxism

According to James Pusey, writing in Nature, "Charles Darwin's banner was first unfurled in China during the Reform Movement of 1895-98, in response to China's defeat in the Sino-Japanese War." There were two groups seeking change: the reformers, who were loyal to the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and the revolutionaries, who wanted a clean break with the past.

--snip--

The reformers and the revolutionaries debated vigorously "with both sides wildly waving Darwin's banner" The leaders of these movements imbibed the message of scientific racism coming from America and Europe and presented themselves as 'fit' to rule...

(Excerpt) Read more at arn.org ...


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1 posted on 11/23/2009 9:37:15 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2009 9:39:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Ideas do travel, either in response to the failure of the old ideas or acceptance of prevailing views of the more powerful as when a country is conquered and occupied.

China's awakening to the outside world was probably a fair amount of both and Darwinism would make a workable antidote to the first and a palliative to the second.

Psst!...The book burners are their way!!

3 posted on 11/23/2009 9:58:56 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

What’s ironic is that I hear that scientists are actually functionally freer to question Darwinism in China than they are here in Western nations.


4 posted on 11/23/2009 10:02:16 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (There are only two REAL conservatives in America - myself, and my chosen Presidential candidate)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Amazing!


5 posted on 11/23/2009 10:11:29 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


6 posted on 11/23/2009 10:24:51 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts
Yeah......so typical to blame everything in the world on somethign you are against.

....so you blame the first gunmaker for all deaths at the working end of the gun? This first guy that made gunpowder?

7 posted on 11/23/2009 10:27:33 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: count-your-change

Speaking of book burners:

Why I Published a New Origin

By Ray Comfort

When I discovered that the famous On the Origin of Species was public domain, I decided to publish it myself and write an Introduction and give away copies of the book to university students, in honor of the book’s 150th year of publication.

But when Kirk Cameron (my TV cohost on The Way of the Master) and I produced a short video clip explaining what I wanted to do and posted it online, we kicked a hornet’s nest. A big one.

Why are many atheists so angry? Why are they talking about book burnings, threatening to resist the giveaway and rip out the Introduction, etc.? Why was richarddawkins.net encouraging people to collect copies and rip out the Introduction? ...

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/10/29/exclusive-ray-comfort-defends-his-creationist-edition-of-on-the-origin-of-species.html


8 posted on 11/23/2009 10:28:32 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Hey, we are just reviewing your evo-religious buds over at Science. Indeed, one of the things Creationists and IDers appreciate about the Temple of Darwin is that they make our job so easy :op
9 posted on 11/23/2009 10:40:13 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
China is nothing. When Genghis Khan conquered virtually all of Asia and much of Europe in the 13th century, he did so in the name of the Great Charles Darwin.

Above: Lands where teaching of evolution was mandatory.

10 posted on 11/23/2009 10:41:31 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Little known fact: mass murderer Jeffrey Dahmer murdered and ate 17 men and boys because all opposed teaching science in public schools. Dahmer, who had taken biology classes in schools, was motivated by a fanatical loyalty to Charles Darwin.

11 posted on 11/23/2009 10:44:56 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Fascinating fact:

On April 14, 1865 evolutionist John Wilkes Booth assassinated President Abraham Lincoln during a play at Ford's Theater in Washington. In the second act, Lincoln was seen laughing at a line in the play, "Our American Cousin" which mocked Darwin and the then new theory of evolution. Enraged, Booth grabbed a derringer pistol and shot the President.


12 posted on 11/23/2009 10:49:08 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes, I saw that. And some still say Darwinism isn’t a religion....That Comfort fellow... How dare he?


13 posted on 11/23/2009 10:54:52 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I’m convinced male pattern baldness is also a byproduct of Darwinism. And probably gingivitis as well.


14 posted on 11/23/2009 10:57:53 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: GodGunsGuts
On March 14, 44 BC Julius Caesar proposed that Roman schools teach the controversy: teach both Greco-Roman Pagan Creationism alongside Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Brutus, a fanatic Darwinist and tenured professor of Marxist Zoology at the University of Brundisium stabbed him the next day.

15 posted on 11/23/2009 10:58:36 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
When Genghis Khan conquered virtually all of Asia and much of Europe in the 13th century, he did so in the name of the Great Charles Darwin.

You neglect to mention that the Bubonic Plague in medieval Europe was caused by irresponsible alchemists taught by.. you got it.

Charles Darwin.

16 posted on 11/23/2009 11:02:37 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: LanPB01
I’m convinced male pattern baldness is also a byproduct of Darwinism. And probably gingivitis as well.

Charles Darwin died of a heart attack at a time when heart attacks were relatively rare. More people died of things like cholera, tuberculosis, etc. As belief in Darwinism has exploded, so has the incidence of heart disease. Obviously, Darwinism hardens your arteries.

17 posted on 11/23/2009 11:03:19 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: count-your-change

LOL...you gotta love his audacity!


18 posted on 11/23/2009 11:04:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: humblegunner
You neglect to mention that the Bubonic Plague in medieval Europe was caused by irresponsible alchemists taught by.. you got it. Charles Darwin.

Are you sure? Because I'd read that the Plague, like Swine Flu, was a curse from God upon the 1/3 of Europeans who followed the evo-religious cult of Darwin. Native Americans were spared, because all of them were pious Creationist Christians.

19 posted on 11/23/2009 11:08:23 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Native Americans were spared, because all of them were pious Creationist Christians.

There is no concrete biblical evidence of this.

Unlike the documented biblical FACT that Darwin shot all the dinosaurs as they exited the Ark.

20 posted on 11/23/2009 11:13:30 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
What’s ironic is that I hear that scientists are actually functionally freer to question Darwinism in China than they are here in Western nations.

Believe it or not, in Ancient Greece, scientists were rounded up and EXECUTED for challenging Darwinian Evolution. Socrates, a noted creationist, was allowed to drink hemlock -- a deadly poison -- and commit suicide, instead of be executed, as a sign of respect for his great philosophical accomplishments.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 11:14:20 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: humblegunner
There is no concrete biblical evidence of this. Unlike the documented biblical FACT that Darwin shot all the dinosaurs as they exited the Ark.

Darwin wasn't allowed on the Ark, because there was only one Darwin, and Noah only gave tickets to couples. Darwin was forced to spend the 40 days and 40 nights on a German U-Boat given to him by HITLER. That U-Boat is now marooned on top of Mount Ararat, where its remains are frequently mistaken for the Ark.

22 posted on 11/23/2009 11:18:59 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
That U-Boat is now marooned on top of Mount Ararat, where its remains are frequently mistaken for the Ark.

The Discovery Channel had a great show about that.
You can still see the gun ports Darwin used when shooting the dinosaurs.

23 posted on 11/23/2009 11:21:19 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: GodGunsGuts

This has nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution or the process of evolution.

Pinning everything bad in the world on your opponents is an old tactic.


24 posted on 11/23/2009 11:23:55 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: humblegunner

The Discovery Channel is a Darwinist plot, sir. You probably saw that documentary on a respected science website, such as ICR.


25 posted on 11/23/2009 11:24:23 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: Alter Kaker

I must say, you sound much, much, more logical and reasonable than you usually do.


26 posted on 11/23/2009 11:32:09 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: LanPB01
The Discovery Channel is a Darwinist plot, sir. You probably saw that documentary on a respected science website, such as ICR.

The Discovery Channel is controlled by the Knights Templar, a violent Darwinist organization ostensibly loyal to the Catholic Church. Founded in 1129, the Knights were officially disbanded in 1307, but they have continued to flourish underground for the past seven centuries.

In the last hundred years, they have had enormous success getting Darwinist propaganda in front of every schoolchild in America. We can't fight Darwin without fighting his Knights.

Above: Knight Templar seen giving a ride on his horse to Charles Darwin, who had been hitchhiking to Damascus between Crusades.

27 posted on 11/23/2009 11:34:46 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: count-your-change
I must say, you sound much, much, more logical and reasonable than you usually do.

Thank you!

28 posted on 11/23/2009 11:38:06 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I guess he's not afraid to have everyone read an opinion contrary to his own.
Rather refreshing in comparison to the Dawkins’ of the world and the Dawkins wannabes here that have pairs of little bronzed jackboots hanging from their rear view mirrors.
29 posted on 11/23/2009 11:48:25 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; admin

Duplicate thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2385221/posts


30 posted on 11/23/2009 12:01:15 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
Actually, it was a "review" of an abstract from Nature because they're too cheap to pay for the full article, but this notion of social Darwinism was around LOOOOOOOOOONG before the Theory of Evolution and even Darwin himself.

From the full:

The reformers had to find hope in On the Origin of Species. And they did, but their most optimistic interpretations were based on a handful of mistranslations, themselves based on a series of misunderstandings. (Westerners leapt to these misunderstandings as well — without the benefit of mistranslations.)

.....ya don't need the Theory of Evolution....a BIOLOGICAL Theory....to go 'splaining why you're gonna purposely kill off the weak in your country or take any other social actions with the ruse/excuse of making it stronger.

More:

Subtle errors of translation, however, went with them: "natural selection" came out as "natural elimination"; the "survival of the fittest" became the "superior survive and the inferior are defeated"; and, causing the most confusion of all, "evolution" became jinhua lun, "the theory of progressive change". Strictly speaking, Darwin did not prove that evolution led to progress; to this day, that mistranslation makes it hard to discuss evolution in Chinese. As Confucius said: "If terms are not correct, discourse is difficult."

Anyone can pervert a book or notion to suit their needs. (hint hint)

31 posted on 11/23/2009 12:19:57 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: Alter Kaker; humblegunner
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32 posted on 11/23/2009 3:48:27 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You mean like this irrefutable evidence against evolution?

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33 posted on 11/23/2009 3:58:11 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
Ray Comfort apologizes for banana illustration ;op
34 posted on 11/23/2009 4:34:00 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ira_Louvin
Richard Dawkins STEALS Ray Comfort's Banana Routine!!!

Can't the evo-atheists even come up with their own material anymore?...LOL!

35 posted on 11/23/2009 4:43:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Alter Kaker
The Discovery Channel is controlled by the Knights Templar, a violent Darwinist organization ostensibly loyal to the Catholic Church.

As documented in that best-seller, The DarWinci Code.

36 posted on 11/23/2009 6:30:27 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think Dawkins ought to get in touch with George Noory. He (Dawkins) would be a perfect guest for Coast To Coast AM. They go “bananas” over the subject of alien visitors on that program.


37 posted on 11/23/2009 7:18:39 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; Alter Kaker; YHAOS
"As documented in that best-seller, The DarWinci Code."Did you know that the DarWinci Code and Chariots of the Gods were both ghost written by Brian Thomas M.S.?
38 posted on 11/23/2009 7:26:55 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

So Ray Comfort apologized for failing to do the proper research prior to presenting an argument that made him look like an utter fool


39 posted on 11/23/2009 7:41:10 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: YHAOS

Well seeing how Dawkins has spent his whole life being a space cadet, I would imagine he would do quite well on a show like George Noory’s!


40 posted on 11/23/2009 8:10:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“I’m sorry I didn’t know WTF I was talking about.....but I’m still right if i explain it more clearly.”

....is no apology for being an ignorant fool manufacturing nonsense.

....and yet it still remains that God did not make the banana the perfect little food this fool claims it is......Man did.....leaving him with the only argument being...”Well, God made Man...so I’m still right.”

Wrong fool, your claim was made up nonsense and the rest is trying to wriggle yourself out of being caught showing ignorance.


41 posted on 11/24/2009 4:47:42 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

OK....in your Absurdistan, “raggin’ on” and “making fun of” and “ridiculing” now equals “stealing material.”

You simply do not debate a BananaMan nut and elevate him to your level.


42 posted on 11/24/2009 4:53:07 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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