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Kelly to be new Irish coach
ESPN ^ | 12.10.09

Posted on 12/10/2009 6:33:08 PM PST by Perdogg

Notre Dame has settled on Brian Kelly as the man who can restore its faded glory, just as he turned Cincinnati into a national title contender.

Just 10 days after Charlie Weis was fired, it's up to Kelly to revive the fortunes of a team that just completed the worst decade of football in the history of the storied program with a 70-52 record and three losing seasons.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen first reported Kelly would take over in South Bend.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: agingbloatedwhore; briankelly; coach; collegefootball; fightingamish; notredame; notreshame

1 posted on 12/10/2009 6:33:09 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: GOP_Raider; GoDuke

ping


2 posted on 12/10/2009 6:33:39 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
Something is really wrong at ND. I've been following college football for a long time. ND has nearly unlimited money. They have there own broadcast TV network, NBC. They get BCS games they don't deserve which brings in huge amounts of money. The got slaughtered by Oregon State, Ohio State, and LSU in BCS bowl games that they never should have been invited to in the first place. They lost 8 straight bowl games-not because they didn't deserve to be in a bowl game but because they were getting BCS or other high ranking bowl games they didn't deserve.

They get special treatment from the NCAA and the Sports Media. This is outrageous and I think something ought to be done about it.

Even with all the problems at ND, they get a top ten recruiting class EVERY YEAR and they still are under performing. How do you go 6-6 with all that talent? They've been through 3 coaches now.

Anyone got any thoughts on what's wrong at the Golden Dome?
3 posted on 12/10/2009 6:45:38 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Perdogg
Something is really wrong at ND. I've been following college football for a long time. ND has nearly unlimited money. They have there own broadcast TV network, NBC. They get BCS games they don't deserve which brings in huge amounts of money. The got slaughtered by Oregon State, Ohio State, and LSU in BCS bowl games that they never should have been invited to in the first place. They lost 8 straight bowl games-not because they didn't deserve to be in a bowl game but because they were getting BCS or other high ranking bowl games they didn't deserve.

They get special treatment from the NCAA and the Sports Media. This is outrageous and I think something ought to be done about it.

Even with all the problems at ND, they get a top ten recruiting class EVERY YEAR and they still are under performing. How do you go 6-6 with all that talent? They've been through 3 coaches now.

Anyone got any thoughts on what's wrong at the Golden Dome?
4 posted on 12/10/2009 6:46:05 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

Sorry for the double post.


5 posted on 12/10/2009 6:47:29 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

Hope they never win another game ( apology to Rockne—Leahy—Parsegian —Holtz)

Inviting Obama did it for me —until then I rooted for the Irish


6 posted on 12/10/2009 6:49:38 PM PST by uncbob
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To: truthguy
At Notre Dame you have an institution drenched in narcissism. They don't really believe they need a coach at all. Any damn fool off the street will become the next Ara Parseghian, just by virtue of the shadow of the golden era of the late 1940's. Plus, with their radio network, every senile union thug in the midwest thinks ND is still a national contender, even though they haven't done squat in 20 years.

As I've said before, ND is a marketing monster, but the pencilnecks in marketing don't get the job done on the field.

7 posted on 12/10/2009 6:58:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: truthguy
I suspect they will join the Big Ten to make 12 teams in the conference. Their “independent” strategy isn't working.
8 posted on 12/10/2009 6:58:51 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Perdogg

Harbaugh was the better candidate.


9 posted on 12/10/2009 6:58:55 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...

College football breaking news Quick Ping!


10 posted on 12/10/2009 6:59:55 PM PST by GOP_Raider (You can now check out GOP_Raider on Twitter at twitter.com/RaiderUte)
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To: uncbob

“Inviting Obama did it for me”

It’s traditional. I just watched Reagan’s Notre Dame speech on you tube. GREAT!

The real story here is that the coach of an undefeated team (Cinci), which is prepping for a major bowl game with national championship implications, just UP AND LEAVES??? WTF


11 posted on 12/10/2009 7:00:43 PM PST by PilotDave (America; nice while it lasted... I miss it already.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sums it up well. Notre Dame is the most overrated university in the history of civilization.


12 posted on 12/10/2009 7:11:00 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

There is zero chance of ND ever joining the Big Ten.


13 posted on 12/10/2009 7:13:00 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: randomhero97

Thats a fact jak

Past May .. The magic Negro gives commencement speech, ND gives the community activist an honorary doctorate

ND has NOT stood for much of anything in decades. Just another academic pile of Bravo Sierra.


14 posted on 12/10/2009 7:14:38 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: truthguy
It's arrogance, pure arrogance at Notre Dame. They lost their way under Fr. Monk Malloy and Fr. William Beauchamp more than 15 years ago. Gave up the football franchise and began to worship money and political correctness instead. An alumni uprising at the end of Willingham's tenure led to his firing and a coaching search. The uniiversity has no real desire to win at the highest levels or they would put all that money where their mouth is and hire a great coach. Kelly is a good coach, unproven at the highest levels. We'll see. In the meantime, Notre Dame has become a greedy place, preaching all sorts of platitudes and not necessarily walking the walk.

I can cite countless examples, but I'll spare you all unless you really want to know.

I love the old Notre Dame I went to and struggle mightily with what she has become. I pray she'll abandon some of the nonsense she embraced under Malloy, but do not believe Fr. Jenkins, the new president, is a good leader as evidenced by the Obama matter. You are welcome to invite the leader of the free world to come speak at the commencement exercise, but please don't honor him with a degree.

Go Irish

irish guard

15 posted on 12/10/2009 7:16:33 PM PST by irish guard
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To: PilotDave
It’s traditional.

What do you mean traditional --traditional to invite a baby killer
16 posted on 12/10/2009 7:17:49 PM PST by uncbob
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To: PackerBoy

They would bring down the competition in the Big Ten, which is not great as of late and I am speaking as a Big Ten (football only) fan.


17 posted on 12/10/2009 7:21:02 PM PST by Corporate Law (Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of Top-Ranked Teams)
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To: truthguy

Colin Coward, of ESPN Radio, was working for a Portland (OR) radio station when ND played Oregon State in the Fiesta Bowl several years ago. He said that when the two teams ran on the field to warm up, he called his friends and told them to bet big on Oregon State. Said you could just tell that Oregon State was much bigger, faster, and stronger than ND.

That OSU team had two first round defensive ends, a couple of other NFLers on defense and T. J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson at wide receiver.

Oregon State won 40-9.


18 posted on 12/10/2009 7:21:34 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: FTJM

Maybe, but the next few years at ND are going to be very tough. All the great smart guys are going to go to Stanford. Great weather, great coach and much better looking women. Academics are better than ND, too.


19 posted on 12/10/2009 7:25:33 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: PilotDave

It’s easy for him (Kelly) to leave. He’s a liberal coaching ‘ho, going to the newest bastion of liberal love.

Cincinnati was just his means to an end.

Life lesson for his players... they are the broad shoulders upon which others will climb to reach their success.


20 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:46 PM PST by Dissident1
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To: Dissident1; PilotDave

Too bad the move from Kelly from Cincinnati to Notre Dame has to be announced before the bowl games. Kick in the gut to the Cincinnati players, I would think.


21 posted on 12/10/2009 7:39:21 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; truthguy; Perdogg
I suspect they will join the Big Ten to make 12 teams in the conference. Their “independent” strategy isn't working.

And it would still be called the "Big Ten" with the addition of Notre Dame? They can't call it the "Big Twelve", because that name is already taken.

22 posted on 12/10/2009 7:41:21 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

It would still be superior to the Big 12 in every way.


23 posted on 12/10/2009 7:43:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Not weather.


24 posted on 12/10/2009 7:45:29 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Sworn in as an honorary Texan by Hayden Fry...


25 posted on 12/10/2009 7:48:24 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: truthguy
"Anyone got any thoughts on what's wrong at the Golden Dome?"

The university is rotten at its core.

There is not even a smidgen of Catholic/Christian priciple left anywhere on campus. All that remains is symbolism - no substance.

The place has no soul.

(I paid in time, money and sweat for the right to say that.)
26 posted on 12/10/2009 7:58:48 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: truthguy
They get special treatment from the NCAA and the Sports Media

I don't think they get special treatment from the media. Many in the media have been criticizing them because they fired the previous coach too soon and he was an African American. ESPN and several radio shows have been very negative.

I think there are three reasons they have underperformed:

1. Since Holtz the coaches were specialists and not experienced or flexible enough

2. academic standards are truly higher than most schools

3. recruiting depth

27 posted on 12/10/2009 7:59:08 PM PST by alrea
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To: irish guard

I really want to know.


28 posted on 12/10/2009 8:35:47 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: truthguy

“Anyone got any thoughts on what’s wrong at the Golden Dome?”

Yeah, a dude named Jenkins.


29 posted on 12/11/2009 1:35:34 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: truthguy; Perdogg; Eric in the Ozarks; rexgrossmansonlyfan; TitansAFC; C19fan

I read an article that Kelley demanded Notre Dame change some (unfortunately unspecified in the article) things that hampered recruiting ability.

Anyhow I feel bad for the Bearcats players and fans. If Texas had missed that field goal they would be in the “National Championship” game, would Kelley still have decided to leave?

He built a good program there.


30 posted on 12/11/2009 1:45:53 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy
I feel sorry for Cincinnati fans, too. But they can take SOME comfort (if only a little) in the fact that they were probably never going to get a shot at the Title game anyway, unless it was one of those years where everyone else from the SEC, Big Ten, et al, had at least one loss and they happened to go undefeated.

Kelley seems a genuinely nice fellow, and his players were loyal to the core. They seemed PERSONALLY hurt by his departure, which says a lot about his relationship with the kids.

He'll be fine at ND because he's got the recruiting process down. I expect them to be better under Kelley than under the last few coaches.

31 posted on 12/11/2009 5:48:36 AM PST by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: Perdogg
I'm curious as to what it cost ND in order to get Kelly on board? He had signed contract extensions with the U of Cincinnati at least twice ... they had him locked in. Kelly must have received one hell of a package, in addition, his contract with Cincy had to be bought out ... ND no doubt put up some big bucks.
32 posted on 12/11/2009 6:01:12 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: truthguy

Que the massive ND hatred...

“I’ve been following college football for a long time.”

Wow threat really sets you apart from the other people reading this thread, please continue..

“They have there own broadcast TV network, NBC.”

Really ND owns NBC? Oh you must be talking about the fact that NBC decided to hook up with Notre Dame because most of the other good conferences have own deals with ESPN, ABC, CBS, or Fox... Who the hell does ND think they are trying to get the best TV coverage they can? So what else grinds your gears?

“They get BCS games they don’t deserve which brings in huge amounts of money.”

If you think ND needs the money from BCS games you don’t follow college football quite as closely as you claim. As to ‘Not deserving’ a bid how the hell is Georgia Tech getting one this year?

“The got slaughtered by Oregon State, Ohio State, and LSU in BCS bowl games that they never should have been invited to in the first place.”

Oh yea those poor prosecuted power conferences. When ND keeps a mid major from a bowl game you wake me up. Until then I guess the CS conferences will have to console themselves with the thought that they can lock TCU out.


33 posted on 12/11/2009 6:15:29 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

Ah, the old ND Georgia Tech rivalry! As a kid many decades ago I thought it was hilarious when ND came to Grant Field.
The half pint whiskey bottles and frozen fish would come raining down from the stands. You don’t see that kind of fan support any more.


34 posted on 12/11/2009 7:31:00 AM PST by pappyone (New to Freep, still working a tag line.)
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To: Perdogg

Bundy?


35 posted on 12/11/2009 7:32:10 AM PST by ThomasThomas (Sometimes I like nuts. That's why I am here.)
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To: ntnychik

And the irony is that the opposing Head Coach in their bowl game is a UC Alum.


36 posted on 12/11/2009 7:33:58 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: hinckley buzzard
Only at Notre Dame can a coach "go for the tie" in a nationally televised game for #1 and be hailed as as "Great."

Here's hoping their new coach works out just as well as the last coach from the Cincinnati area.

37 posted on 12/11/2009 7:36:40 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: alrea
2. academic standards are truly higher than most schools

Higher then Navy? They have won two in a row and played ND tough in some of the recent loses.

Tougher then Stanford? They have turned their program around.

38 posted on 12/11/2009 7:46:30 AM PST by Michael.SF. (At least Hitler got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Impy
Anyhow I feel bad for the Bearcats players and fans.

Be ready ND fans! Brian Kelly is a LIAR, who told his team last week that he wasn't going anywhere.

He said that before the Pitt game, which they won by one point. From what I read in the papers, the Cincinnati players feel betrayed.

Kelly's the best placeholder they could find for the next several years, until Urban Meyer's kids have all grown and left home, whereupon Mrs. Meyer will allow Urban to move to South Bend. Kelly will make a lot of money in the interim.

There are two coaches in college basketball that I really respect: the late Don Haskins of UTEP, and Mark Few of Gonzaga. They could have left for greener pastures, but opted to stay in places they grew to love.

Few may move on some day, but it's not likely, as he's already turned down big time jobs, mostly Pac 10 schools.

39 posted on 12/11/2009 7:48:02 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Michael.SF.
Tougher then Stanford? They have turned their program around.

Stanford deserves great credit for their excellence in athletics and academics. They're consistently in the top 5 when it comes to graduation rates.

Personally, I think Harbaugh would have been a better pick for ND. He's shown that he can recruit academically superior athletes.

Of course, I understand why Harbaugh would want to stay at Stanford. That part of the Bay Area is beautiful. If I had the $$$, it would be at the top of a short list. I grew up in the East Bay, and have fond memories of living there.

Not to hijack the thread, but here's a partial list of faves, in no particular order:

SF/Bay Area
Spokane, WA
Dallas/Fort Worth suburbs...there's a ton of 'em.
Chania, Crete
Traben-Trarbach, Germany (Mosel River)
Kiel, Germany
Oberammergau, Germany
El Paso
Hill Country, Texas
San Diego, CA
Next door to Dick Cheney's house in Wyoming (wherever that may be)

With the exception of the last item, I've either visited or lived there for an extended period.

40 posted on 12/11/2009 8:05:15 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: ntnychik

It speaks to the character of kelly ... didn’t even have the balls to tell his players. They found out later after a banquet held for them. The offensive coordinator will coach them New Years Eve.

But then Kelly, the son of an ultra liberal politician knows the dirbag political route. No .. I do not deny what he did in Cincy. He brought the bearcats to a place that they have never been before. Nor do I hold ill will to one that betters him self professionally .. it is just a fact of life in college sports.

But as a person ... kelly is a stinking liberal clueless azzhole ... ND deserves him. I hope they go 3 and 9 the next 5 years.


41 posted on 12/11/2009 8:16:25 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick
But as a person ... kelly is a stinking liberal clueless azzhole ...

Not to defend Kelly too much, as I know very little about the person, but consider this:

ND is one of the top coaching jobs in the country, a tough one to turn down for any coach.

They offered him the job at this time of year, probably telling Kelly if he delayed, they would go elsewhere.

I would blame ND as much as Kelly.

42 posted on 12/11/2009 8:34:00 AM PST by Michael.SF. (At least Hitler got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Michael.SF.

As I pointed out ... I didn’t/don’t care if Kelly goes to ND or anywhere else. But he lied. Even Lied to the very kids who took him undefeated even up through the banquet last night. Told them last night he wasn’t going.

ND is NOT a top job in college coaches, only in marketing minds. They haven’t done anything since 88.
small small small man. typical Liberal dirtbag. Small small school of ultra liberals posing as religious ... the two deserve each other


43 posted on 12/11/2009 9:15:11 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Michael.SF.
Stanford and Navy have higher also. This is just a reason ND is under-performing.
44 posted on 12/11/2009 10:30:42 AM PST by alrea
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To: Perdogg

Kelly is a LOSER.

At the very least he should have been man enough to stand by his team and see them through the bowl game. He should have told Notre Dame that he would be the coach and that they would simply have to wait until the bowl game was finished.

NO INTEGRITY!


45 posted on 12/12/2009 8:42:18 AM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: truthguy
They don't allow steroids.
46 posted on 12/12/2009 8:44:47 AM PST by poinq
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To: TitansAFC

Weis was a a big bust as a head coach but he could be a vast improvement over Offensive Coordinator Ron Turner if the Bears want him.


47 posted on 12/12/2009 5:04:06 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I’ve read that his departure was ‘inevitable’.

I hope he plays a game at Cincy. And I hope Rich Rodriguez and Michigan one day before he’s fired plays @West Virginia too. Imagine the boos.

“whereupon Mrs. Meyer will allow Urban to move to South Bend.”

:D. How come he turned them down the first time and went to Florida? I’m not sure he wants that job.


48 posted on 12/12/2009 5:34:11 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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