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Circle of friends The importance of other people in our preparedness plans
Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | Dec. 17, 2009 | Claire Wolfe

Posted on 12/17/2009 6:58:05 PM PST by The Comedian

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To: The Comedian
"The government asks us to behave like dependent children at exactly the moment our best adult skills are demanded of us."

Just one of many statements she makes jumping out at me.
This one synopsizes the situation in one sentence.

That said this whole thing reminds me of the early 80s. Reagan's just been elected and is really shaking cages. Particularly Communist cages.

America's Hollyweird scum & scum from abroad go into high gear, vilifying RR & his effort(s).
Two productions ideal for demonstrating the smear are: The Day After by ABC {spit}.
The other's a BBC production titled Threads.

While both films attempted to portray what'd happen to society due solely TO RR's course, in hindsight beyond laughable, they also accomplished depicting the utter chaos of a full nuclear exchange unlike anything before, too.
Images one could really connect with, the desired tool of propagandists having a viable use for perhaps the first & only time? LOL

Nuclear or natural disaster, what's the difference if everything we've come to rely simply no longer exists?
Moreover while The Day After is nearly comical in many ways aside from visuals? Threads does a pretty damned good job showing what the government's role will be in such a disaster, and, how the governments will get every surviving soul to toe their line.
Even if Wolfe's survivalist issue has been addressed, many times, before? It ain't pretty.

Good topic, my friend.
BTW, curious: what part of the republic you live, now? Rural WI, here.

Ping me anytime to CWolfe's stuff, OK? TIA :^)

101 posted on 12/18/2009 8:44:00 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: Landru

Claire is a fairly regular contributor to Backwoods Home along with Masaad Ayoob. It’s worth checking in there from time to time.


102 posted on 12/18/2009 8:45:26 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“...Getting a foreign source of income is important...”

Can you give me some examples of this? - thanks

Sure. Buying stock in companies based in foreign countries that pay dividends. (Why do you think foreigners buy stock in American companies?)

Buying income producing properties in another country. I have a little beach house in Mexico that I paid 30k for. I spend a month or two down there each year and rent it out for the rest of the year. They take care of the place and I get a couple of hundred a month for it. I know it isn't much, but it would probably be enough to feed me and my family if necessary.

103 posted on 12/18/2009 8:49:29 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: The Comedian
"Hey, don't worry about it. If anything goes wrong, I'll just move in with you."

Heard that one before. Pisses me off.

104 posted on 12/18/2009 8:59:10 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: 2banana
I've had family say the same, and they are all raving nutter conservative mobsters like me.

They are just lazy.

105 posted on 12/18/2009 9:04:35 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That is why I have dogs.


106 posted on 12/18/2009 9:06:36 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: LeGrande

thanks


107 posted on 12/18/2009 9:06:42 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: LeGrande
So when your life savings get eliminated, you are going to go hunting Federal workers?

Pfft,

I couldn't care less about my life savings.

I'm just waiting for bow season...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

108 posted on 12/18/2009 9:07:30 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Armedanddangerous; stylin_geek

I put a hand pump on top of my 140 ft. deep well. Cost me five hundred bucks.


109 posted on 12/18/2009 9:07:55 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: The Comedian
We are, at any moment, two meals or one CBS news broadcast from anarchy.

It sure feels that way sometimes : ( And some of your scenarios would play out that way.

But and this is a big but : ) The most likely scenario won't play out that way. We are watching the collapse play out right now. California is broke. The Federal government would be broke right now if they couldn't print money. This is an excruciatingly slow process, until the final collapse.

But our society isn't going to collapse, it will be transformed. How? I have no clue, except that it will be broken up regionally (most likely based on energy grids). The only thing I am positive of is that there will not be an armed rebellion. There will be no one to rebel against.

People with assets will be the ones to benefit.

110 posted on 12/18/2009 9:08:25 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: Armedanddangerous; stylin_geek
Add some cigarettes or loose tobacco/papers to the booze and you can trade for just about anything.
111 posted on 12/18/2009 9:09:36 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: LeGrande
Yes, yes, of course. I've NEVER seen anyone have to stand in line for food and shelter.

You go ahead and wait in line to feed those you love. I'll be at home, safe and feeding my family without having to depend on others.

Additional sources of income are fine, but why not do both, just in case?

112 posted on 12/18/2009 9:13:34 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: Lurker
"Claire is a fairly regular contributor to Backwoods Home along with Masaad Ayoob. It’s worth checking in there from time to time."

Thanks, Lurker.
Bookmarking the site based solely on your recommendation. ;^)

113 posted on 12/18/2009 9:15:22 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: LeGrande
The Federal government would be broke right now if they couldn't print money. This is an excruciatingly slow process, until the final collapse.

"There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

- Ludwig von Mises

114 posted on 12/18/2009 9:20:01 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: LeGrande
The most likely scenario won't play out that way

Dude, the "most likely" isn't even what worries me. I've got Farfal's book for that :-)

What is disturbing is that we are staring at a *flock* of "Black Swan" events, any one of which might have been experienced by perhaps a dozen people now living in America.

In the face of some of these events, a zombie apocalypse would be a calming, safe, nostalgic trip down the path of "normal".

BTW, as an act of civil disobedience, I have moved all funds and business activities save for a tiny fragment, offshore.

Screw the Coup.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

115 posted on 12/18/2009 9:34:32 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: teenyelliott
You go ahead and wait in line to feed those you love. I'll be at home, safe and feeding my family without having to depend on others.

Oh puh leaze. I live in Utah. I live an hour away from town. Except for milk and fresh fruit we start getting nervous if we have less than a years worth of food stocked up. We have a greenhouse and my wife loves to garden. I have access to a spring and the materials and know how to go off the grid for power and heat. Having said that, I am not self sufficient. I don't really think it is possible to be self sufficient.

My point is that preparing for a Mad Max scenario is financially stupid. Buying bulk food items that you like to eat, on sale, is smart. Buying guns and ammo before you are out of debt is stupid. Investing in a foreign company to get dividends in time of a crises is smart.

Predicting the future is impossible. Planning for the future is smart.

116 posted on 12/18/2009 10:38:07 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande
Oh puh leaze. I live in Utah. I live an hour away from town. Except for milk and fresh fruit we start getting nervous if we have less than a years worth of food stocked up. We have a greenhouse and my wife loves to garden. I have access to a spring and the materials and know how to go off the grid for power and heat.

Well you didn't say that. What you wrote gave the impression that money is all that is needed to survive any given disaster.

Sounds like you have all the bases covered.

117 posted on 12/18/2009 10:51:16 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: Travis McGee

Grew up in SoCal. Left it many years ago. However, I do live in a small KaliDummo county.

I’ll be very glad if, and when, I can wrench my wife from this God forsaken state. Still, I have a hideaway in the boondocks not far from here.

God taught me that wherever too many congregate, there is trouble brewing. I really feel sorry for those that will be stuck in cities when the stuff hits the fan, although many may deserve it.

Thanks for the pings, as long as they last.


118 posted on 12/18/2009 10:53:36 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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To: Travis McGee
Claire never fails to both entertain and inspire.

On a related note, I'm waiting on a barrel (Compass Lake) for my latest DMR project. Just a hobby, y'unnerstand...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

119 posted on 12/18/2009 11:23:08 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: teenyelliott

Where did you get your hand pump?

As for tobacco, not a bad idea. Hadn’t really thought about it, but, easy enough to stock up on.


120 posted on 12/18/2009 11:32:36 AM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanx!


121 posted on 12/18/2009 11:41:26 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Travis McGee

Great post and tagline material!


122 posted on 12/18/2009 12:07:20 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: The Comedian
What is disturbing is that we are staring at a *flock* of "Black Swan" events, any one of which might have been experienced by perhaps a dozen people now living in America.

Hmm, we read the same books : )

BTW, as an act of civil disobedience, I have moved all funds and business activities save for a tiny fragment, offshore.

Hmm, I have done it partially anyway, for tax purposes.

Screw the Coup.

I call it going John Galt.

I like the way you think : )

123 posted on 12/18/2009 12:15:15 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: The Comedian

“Pfft,

I couldn’t care less about my life savings.

I’m just waiting for bow season...

ROTFLMBO!


124 posted on 12/18/2009 12:16:45 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: LeGrande

“Buying guns and ammo before you are out of debt is stupid. “

If a crisis hits, do you think any of that debt will be enforced? I don’t. I do think protection today and every day, not to mention during a crisis, is not “stupid”. During a crisis do you think you’ll be seeing any dividends from a foreign entity? I mean, they can keep your dough, not pay dividends, or the feds can simply take it from you.


125 posted on 12/18/2009 12:21:27 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad
If a crisis hits, do you think any of that debt will be enforced? I don’t. I do think protection today and every day, not to mention during a crisis, is not “stupid”. During a crisis do you think you’ll be seeing any dividends from a foreign entity? I mean, they can keep your dough, not pay dividends, or the feds can simply take it from you.

Obviously if our government fails tomorrow and our currency becomes worthless it would be better to have a huge debt and a huge stockpile of guns and of whatever you may need for the next twenty years : )

It isn't going to happen that way though. We are probably going to go through a period of deflation first, before the hyperinflation and collapse kick in. This is going to be a long, agonizingly slow process. We have plenty of time to prepare, the key is to plan and prepare, to actually do it. It is important to do it in a fiscally prudent manner, unless of course you can time the collapse accurately : )

126 posted on 12/18/2009 12:42:46 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

“government fails tomorrow and our currency becomes worthless “

I am seeing the people pissed off enough to toss out the federal government and the dollar is looking worse by the day.


127 posted on 12/18/2009 1:09:06 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: The Comedian; OB1kNOb; CholeraJoe; Delta 21; Nikas777; NoAmnesty; Yorlik803; TheOldLady


Sorry for the late ping, folks. Work's been very busy these days.
128 posted on 12/18/2009 1:33:10 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: stylin_geek
I had the hand pump installed by my well company.

As for the tobacco, you can buy big bags of pipe tobacco for about eight bucks. No need to go spend fifty bucks a pop on cartons.

129 posted on 12/18/2009 1:57:59 PM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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To: The Comedian

130 posted on 12/18/2009 2:05:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

131 posted on 12/18/2009 2:16:59 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: CodeToad
I am seeing the people pissed off enough to toss out the federal government and the dollar is looking worse by the day.

You are absolutely correct, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. When I said agonizingly slow, that is precisely what I meant : )

We would all be much better off if we took back our government today. The problem is that things aren't bad enough to motivate enough people yet. When things get bad enough to motivate people, it is too late.

132 posted on 12/18/2009 2:18:27 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: teenyelliott

thats soo true..if anyone doubts it, watch the tobacco stores the day welfare checks come out.


133 posted on 12/18/2009 3:34:55 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: RandallFlagg

I love zombie movies randall.


134 posted on 12/18/2009 3:36:15 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: Armedanddangerous
I love zombie movies randall.

Ever play the game, "Left 4 Dead?"
135 posted on 12/18/2009 11:18:32 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: The Comedian

Bookmark


136 posted on 12/21/2009 3:41:06 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


137 posted on 12/21/2009 9:00:45 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: RandallFlagg

I have indeed played it.

One weekend I obsessed on left for dead.


138 posted on 12/24/2009 10:21:43 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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