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No Churchgoing Christmas for the First Family
Time ^ | December 23, 2009 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 12/24/2009 7:56:59 AM PST by opentalk

The Senate vote on final passage of health reform almost scuttled their plans, but it looks like the First Family will still make it to Hawaii for Christmas. They've had a whirlwind holiday season so far, starting with the lighting of the National Christmas Tree, through hosting more than 50,000 people for 27 parties and open houses, and ending with a visit by the First Lady, Malia and Sasha, and the family's dog Bo, to deliver cookies to the Children's National Medical Center. The Obamas have also started their own holiday traditions in their new home, adding a Christmas wishing tree to the decorations festooning the White House.

But there's one common Christmas practice not on the First Family's schedule: a visit to Christmas Eve church services.

..The Obamas have attended Sunday services in Washington three times this year

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhochristmas; christian; christmas; fraud; husseinobama; islam; jesus; liarinchief; muslim; obama; obamaandgod; obamafamily; president; religion
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To: opentalk

“The Obamas have attended Sunday services in Washington three times this year”

What they couldn’t find a DC clone of Rev Wright?


51 posted on 12/24/2009 9:02:10 AM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Gaffer

Not long after his inauguration, he went to the National Cathedral for a photo op. I remember his doing a second photo op a few months later, and this article says there was a third visit.

Muslims can enter a Christian church as long as they don’t really participate in the service.

He skipped the National Prayer Breakfast—first time in decades that that has happened. He has noticeably said nothing about the Christian holidays. But he has celebrated several Muslim holidays in the White House.

I’d say he’s a Muslim. Not a terribly observant one, but he presumably thinks he’s much too important for the little details to matter. He’s either the Mahdi or the forerunner of the Mahdi, making way for the victory of Islam and the reign of Allah.


52 posted on 12/24/2009 9:04:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: opentalk

He’s not a Christian, so why should he visit a church? His religion is liberalism.


53 posted on 12/24/2009 9:04:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Northern Yankee
I just am so saddened how so many Americans don't see these people for who they really are.

Thankfully, many people are beginning to see - much more quickly than I would have imagined.

54 posted on 12/24/2009 9:11:01 AM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

My guess is that if they found a church they felt comfortable in, the press would have to check it out, and find another Jeremiah-Wright-type preacher denouncing the United States.

This whole “don’t go to church” is an interesting side-show. I remember two years ago this was my biggest concern about Fred Thompson, who also professed to be a Christian but also said he didn’t attend services.


55 posted on 12/24/2009 9:22:25 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: opentalk

I’m sure Kwanzaa will be the big celebration at the WH.


56 posted on 12/24/2009 9:25:58 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: jongaltsr

yeah...that’s what I thought.


57 posted on 12/24/2009 9:28:29 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Guenevere

No surpise if true. He wants to cut some slack for his brothers in Gitmo. Dead give away if you ask me.


58 posted on 12/24/2009 9:33:04 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: opentalk


No Churchgoing Christmas for the First Family

Even Reagan didn’t attend church very often while President.
RR said that he didn’t like being the center of attention, what with
the necessary presence of Secret Service personnel, etc.

I heartily disagree with Obama on major issues of the day, but personally
I’d cut him some slack on this one. Even if he’s arguably just a
worshipper of The Liberal Church.


59 posted on 12/24/2009 9:34:57 AM PST by VOA
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To: Mac from Cleveland

Alice The Goon-—LOL


60 posted on 12/24/2009 9:37:03 AM PST by onedoug
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To: opentalk

Truth time:

I don’t go to church on Christmas, unless it’s Sunday. Never thought to ask about Zero.


61 posted on 12/24/2009 9:58:55 AM PST by ExGeeEye (P.U.M.A.--BC/BG!)
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To: opentalk

I don’t attend Christmas Eve church services either. Does that make me a bad person?

Oh, that’s right, the First Family must conform to the Christmas orthodoxy, even if they simply want to celebrate at home.

There’s plenty about 0b0z0 to complain about, without worrying that they celebrate Christmas in an unorthodox manner (if at all).


62 posted on 12/24/2009 10:06:44 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: opentalk
Where will they be staying in Hawaii? A hotel? A friend's house? Do they have a house there?

Because I know that I would want to leave the history-laden White House for a shack on the beach in Hawaii! (not!) They won't even spend their first Christmas at the White House. In fact, Obama seems to be AWAY from the White House as much as possible. He's there on a mission, and doesn't want to be distracted by the architecture or the history. Or the extreme privilege that he was afforded (and which he cavalierly scorns).

63 posted on 12/24/2009 10:18:50 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Wake up. It was only a bad dream.)
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The president has declared, with some enthusiasm, that America is no longer a “Christian Nation.” He sees himself as a post Christian president for a post Christian America. He thinks Christianity is for “clingers.” Rev Wright's hate filled auditorium could hardly be called a Christian Church. And Obama only went there for political reasons: Black Chicago politicians are expected to have a church and Wright's, characterized by hatred for America and its institutions, was a good fit for the left wing Obama. What a grave error we have made!
64 posted on 12/24/2009 10:27:42 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: Chickensoup

I’m with you! I’ve never heard of a “Christmas wishing tree.” Anybody know what it is?


65 posted on 12/24/2009 10:43:52 AM PST by livius
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To: Cicero

I think he’s basically Muslim identified, although it may be too much of a bother for him to practice. Besides, as you point out, the Mahdi probably isn’t subject to the same rules as the rest of the slugs.


66 posted on 12/24/2009 10:46:13 AM PST by livius
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To: opentalk

There’s no point in expressing shock or surprise at this. We already know whose side they’re on. Any church is more meaningful, not to mention consecrated, with them out of it.


67 posted on 12/24/2009 10:47:39 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: opentalk

There’s no point in expressing shock or surprise at this. We already know whose side they’re on. Any church is more meaningful, not to mention consecrated, with them out of it.


68 posted on 12/24/2009 10:47:43 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: opentalk

No surprise to me. He doesn’t have the light within.


69 posted on 12/24/2009 11:02:27 AM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It all depends on the meaning of “Church”. The Church isn’t a building.


70 posted on 12/24/2009 11:02:50 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: opentalk

He’s a cafeteria muslim.


71 posted on 12/24/2009 11:07:47 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: seemoAR

I agree but that (building and a service that occurs in a building) was the way it was used it the article .


72 posted on 12/24/2009 11:15:14 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"I highly doubt they have any core religious beliefs..."

Of course they do...Obama religiously believes in himself. He proclaimed that he has a "gift" and that he religiously prays to himself every night. I kid you not.

73 posted on 12/24/2009 11:23:22 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: opentalk
The fact that congress has not been allowed to break for Christmas, shows the lack of respect for Christianity.

I absolutely agree. The last time Congress met on Christmas Eve day was 1895. This whole health-care-has-to-be- done-before-we-go-home scenario is not only disrespectful to the nation's citizens but also to God.

74 posted on 12/24/2009 11:24:37 AM PST by Faith (Natural born citizen and willing to prove it.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"I remember two years ago this was my biggest concern about Fred Thompson, who also professed to be a Christian but also said he didn’t attend services."

Well Church attendance can be a con. I know people in my town who do it...and you know they are as evil as the day is long.

Obama is too self righteous to make room for God.

75 posted on 12/24/2009 11:30:53 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Chickensoup; livius
What is the "Wishing Tree" the Obaminables thought up?

I think it's a couple, maybe 3 or 4, of tree shaped wooden forms that are maybe 6 feet high. You can pull them away from the wall.......they swivel out and around. Each of the tree forms are made up of hundreds of little round wooden cubbyholes so they look honey-combed. This is as close as I can come.

If you are a White House visitor and you have a wish, there's some little paper notes available. Grab one and you can write your heart's desire on it, roll it up and put it into one of the little wooden circles.

Sounds pagan and silly to me.....however, I don't like ANYTHING the Obaminables come up with.

Leni

76 posted on 12/24/2009 1:29:18 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Tax-chick

Title - Christmas Wishing Tree
By - Diana Cohen
Primary Subject - Art
Secondary Subjects -
Grade Level - K-2
1. Using green paper or card, have students trace around the outline of their hand. This is best done working in pairs, so one student can trace the other’s hand and the other can hold their hand very still.
2. Cut out the hands. Students with good fine motor control can do this themselves.
3. Holding their handprint so that the fingers point downwards, ask each student to write a Christmas wish on their hand. They can write their own wish, or one for a friend or family member.
4. Using glitter, paints or whatever is available, decorate the hands, being careful not to cover the written wish.
5. Collect all the handprints and, on a separate large piece of card, arrange the hands into the shape of a Christmas tree and fix with staples or glue. Ensure the fingers all point downwards. The fingers look like branches and leaves and the finished “wish tree” looks fantastic. Kids will love reading each other’s wishes.

HINT: Where possible, use a combination of light and dark green hands.


77 posted on 12/24/2009 1:33:08 PM PST by Boss_Jim_Gettys (Tagline killed by Death Panel)
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To: MinuteGal

Thanks for the explanation! It definitely sounds too wierd for words. I wonder where they came up with that one?

I agree, I can’t think of a thing they have done yet that I have liked. Odious people.


78 posted on 12/24/2009 1:42:53 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

See the post above yours ... Sunday School craft project, early-elementary type.


79 posted on 12/24/2009 1:55:30 PM PST by Tax-chick (If you keep expectations low enough, you'll be praised for completing even the least of your duties.)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s about his mental level, I guess. Ooops, I should try to be more charitable on Christmas Eve. Considering the things I could say, however, I guess I am!


80 posted on 12/24/2009 4:33:49 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

It’s not a bad idea for a first or second grade Sunday School class. Maybe I’ll remember it if I teach that age again. I really like older kids, who don’t need help cutting and glueing things!

For the White House, though, it seems rather infantile.


81 posted on 12/24/2009 5:23:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: opentalk
Check the local mosques, or the ones in Hawaii.

Note the lack of /sarc> tag.

Next year, let's all send the White House a Happy Ramadan card.

Maybe festooned with photos of dead or beheaded U.S. / Nato troops.

Sign it "With Love from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."

Cheers!

82 posted on 12/24/2009 8:00:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DPMD
Any way to help wake the masses and push approval polls south helps the cause. Freepers already are on to this. FR seems to get many hits from other sources.
83 posted on 12/24/2009 8:13:51 PM PST by opentalk
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To: DPMD
Any way to help wake the masses and push approval polls south helps the cause. Freepers already are on to this. FR seems to get many hits from other sources.
84 posted on 12/24/2009 8:14:14 PM PST by opentalk
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

In fact, Obama seems to be AWAY from the White House as much as possible.

Perhaps he doesnt want to be in a target zone??? Perhaps he knows more than we would care to know?


85 posted on 12/25/2009 4:03:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: Chickensoup

No, it’s just Obama’s disdain for the White House. He has the power, but doesn’t want the history that goes with it.


86 posted on 12/25/2009 10:35:32 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (I long to hear: Wake up. It was only a bad dream.)
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