William Shakespeare and Fulke Greville

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[crypt]

It would be rather ignorant of us if we just pretended this scenario was incorrect. If Fulke Greville was discovered to be of more importance then his works should be recognised more on the worldwide stage and taught throuout the system not just at Oxford and Cambridge.

[Edgar3]

Link?

[samtheman]

William Shakespeare or Fulke Greville? That is the question

Who was Fulke Greville

[crypt]

Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was born 1554 at Beauchamp Court,Warwickshire,owner of Warwick Castle in the early 1600s.
He was a Poet,Statesman,Courtier under three rulers Elizabeth 1st,James 1st and Charles 1st.He was also a Diplomat,member of Parliament four times,Treasurer of the Navy and Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Fulke Greville was a friend and confidante to Elizabeth 1st and his close friend was Sir Philip Sydney and Francis Drake.
Fulke Greville wrote many written works including Caelica and Mustapha.
It is believed by many that Fulke Greville and William Shakespeare are the same person and at the very least Fulke Greville was the Master of Shakespeare.His 8th Great Grandson Christopher Brooke Fulke Greville is working with other historians to uncover the truth and put it into the public domain.
Many experts in the field such as Mr AWL Saunders agree that there is a mystery to be solved and they are to this day working to unearth secret documents at St Marys Church,Warwick that may prove the direct link between William Shakespeare and Fulke Greville.
www.masterofshakespeare.com

[DCBurgess58]

Oh pleeeazzee.... everyone knows the conspiricy theorist's favorite choice for William Shakespeare was Sir Francis Bacon. Do we really need to add any more candidates to the list.

Frankly, I find it amusing that so many people think you can take a historical figure who had a well documented life and career and say that his life's work was another man's.

This is incredibly silly. There is ample evidence of William Shakespeare's life, travels, writing, production of plays, acting and death. This conspiricy nonsense is no different than a future generation coming up with a theory that Bob Dylan's songs were actually written by J Paul Getty.

[BlueStateBlues]

Crypto, I notice you post some interesting threads but you put in a sentence or two of data without links. Best to put up a good story with links and then comment about it in your post. But good information, and thanks.

[BlueStateBlues]

I thought it was Bob Dylan who wrote Woody Gutrie’s songs? J. Paul Getty wrote Elvis Presley’s hits, that’s common knowledge among music historians and culture buffs.

[BlueStateBlues]

You put up a good thread about this subject in September, and I’ve bookmarked that one too. An interesting subject, and thanks for bringing it to our notice. The Shakespearen argument is one of the endearing alternate-theory topics, and is always good for a read.

[kalee]

ping

[stylecouncilor]

[onedoug]

You’ve got that right.

[genghis]

for some strange reason i find this subject fascinating.
I have read 30 shakesepere biographies. fiften pro stratford and 15 anti.
I am a total agnostic on this issue.
either the guy from stratford wrote the plays or he didn’t. It is a scientific question. One day there will be no controversy.
I am looking forward to that day.

[DCBurgess58]

Mea culpa, you are correct, I was miss-remembering there. Woody Guthrie was actually a shoe salesman who's name Bob Dylan had found in an old Kinny shoes catalog. Bob chose to write a series of songs and credit them as Woody Guthrie. According to the legend, Bob and Phil Ochs were taking a steam bath and Phil had suggested that Bob should publish his music. Phil finished by telling Bob "You should really go out there and shake your woody"

As far as the attribution of Elvis' songs to J. Paul Getty goes, there are actually quite a few scholars who feel that Ted Turner is a much closer match to Elvis' style.

[SunkenCiv]

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[wardaddy]

My wife actually watched HenryV with me last night....to indulge me.

I wept at St Crispin.

[SunkenCiv]

:’D

[Tainan]

I prefer extra-Crispin.
But, of course, that is a personal preference.

[crypt]

All hell will break loose if they find out that it was Fulke Greville who really was the Master of Shakespeare,especially from the Shakespeare tunnel visionaries.
There are to many relative facts that go to prove Fulke Greville used the AKA William Shakespeare.
At the time of Fulke Grevilles Empire building with various Kings and Queen he served under as Courtier,Treasurer to the Navy,Chancellor.It may have been wise to have kept out of the public spotlight,especially as Queen Elizabeth 1st ordered him at the time not to go galavanting off to the Caribbean with his friend Sir Francis Drake as she needed him at home.
Fulke Greville was a very busy man.

[StarfireIV]

Agreed! I have always been curious about what the motivation behind the conspiracy theories behind Shakespeare. It is as if we can accept the musical genius of a man such as Mozart, but we cannot accept the literary genius of the Bard.

[crypt]

Its interesting what the Mail ONLINE is saying within its editorial.
Many notable experts are coming to believe that Fulke Greville may just be the exception to the validity of this mystery and not trying to be some misenterpetration of our English history.
Experts and Historians such as Professor Rockwell,AWL Saunderss and family member Christopher Fulke Greville all hope to achieve uncovering verification as to the claim that Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was the Master of William Shakespeare.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250068/A-murdered-spy-coded-messages-grave-Will-opening-this-tomb-prove-Shakespeare-didnt-write-his-plays
Reading some replies I am dumbfounded as to the possible ignorance and tunnel vision of some people not to accept that William Shakespeares validity could be questioned.
You cant change the truth if its a fact,
One stupid reply indicated that the investigative team behind this mystery is trying to destroy English Heritage,absolute TOSH.Because if its found Fulke Greville is the Master of William Shakespeare or the man himself,lets not forget that Fulke Greville is English and is of the most high of English Noble families,especially around the Warwick area.

An interesting point to make is if Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was writing William Shakespeares works and he was the first Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Order then he would have automatically had to be anonymous as it would have been in breach of this secret Orders agenda.