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Putting Limits on Vitamin E (QALY fied)
American Friends Tel Aviv University ^ | December 30, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 12/30/2009 12:54:48 PM PST by decimon

The potent antioxidant may do more harm than good, TAU research suggests

Vitamin-fortified foods and dietary health supplements can ease health worries. But what kinds of vitamins are right for you? And how much of them should you take, and how often?

A research group from Tel Aviv University has done the most comprehensive and accurate study of clinical data on Vitamin E use and heart disease to date, and it warns that indiscriminate use of high-dose Vitamin E supplementation does more harm than good. Their results were recently reported in ATVB, a leading journal of cardiology, and discussed in the journal BioFactors.

"There were so many conflicting reports about Vitamin E and its effect on various diseases, particularly heart disease, that we wanted to set the record straight, says Prof. Dov Lichtenberg of TAU's Sackler School of Medicine.

"Our new study shows that some people may be harmed by the treatment, whereas others may benefit from it. Now we're trying to identify groups of people that are most likely to benefit from the effects of Vitamin E," adds study co-researcher Dr. Ilya Pinchuk. The TAU research team also included decision analyst Dr. Moshe Leshno of the Sackler Faculty of Medicine and the Leon Recanati Faculty of Management and Dr. Yedidya (Didi) Dotan, whose PhD thesis is the basis for this analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at aftau.org ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: e; supplements; vitamine; vite

1 posted on 12/30/2009 12:54:49 PM PST by decimon
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To: neverdem; Pharmboy

E harmony ping.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 12:57:59 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Isn’t Vitimen E supposed to be good for wart removal?


3 posted on 12/30/2009 1:12:50 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: decimon
I'm far from an expert on vitamins and nutrition but I've read many articles which state that you can definitely overdose on fat-soluble vitamins like A,D,E, & K. This has been know for a long time. You should limit the amount of these vitamins.
I can't give any more advice than this due to lack of knowledge. Talk to your Doctor or Nutritionist for levels.
4 posted on 12/30/2009 1:16:18 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: decimon

Since this was so full of qualifications, yet very little factual data, I think they should have written it like a “Jewish mother” would have said it.

Son: “Mama, I’m thinking of taking Vitamin E for my health.”

Mama: “What? Are you dying? Is there something wrong with you that you haven’t told me about? My only son...so young! I blame your father!”

Son: “No, Mama! I’m just going to take a little Vitamin E, because it is good for you.”

Mama: “Are you saying that I didn’t feed you a balanced diet? And now you are suffering and have to take vitamins because you are malnourished? Oh, how terrible! But you...such a picky eater. I can see how you are skin and bones already, a shell of a person.”

Son: “No, Mama, really, I’m fine. It’s just that a little Vitamin E won’t hurt.”

Mama: “Ha! How do you know it won’t hurt? It might be pure poison. But then again, it might not. Who’s to know? I don’t know. Likely nobody knows. And yet, here you are, wanting to gamble your life away taking pills.”

Son: “Okay, Mama. I won’t take any Vitamin E.”

Mama: “Are you sure? It might do you wonders! I and your father take it all the time. In any event you should eat more. If you should die it should not be from not eating.”


5 posted on 12/30/2009 1:16:44 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: decimon

Thanks, Happy New Year!


6 posted on 12/30/2009 1:21:51 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: decimon
This article is misleading. First off, TEU looked at data from 30,000 patients in various studies and made their determinations. And technically, they said Vit E 'may harm some' and not others....and further 'studies' would have to be done. Secondly, the source and version of Vitamin E would have varied from study to study. Did the studies use only alpha-tocopherols or were gamma, delta and beta tocopherols also used in these 'studies'? Outcomes would vary greatly if this was true.

Clearly, this is a bunch of claptrap.....

7 posted on 12/30/2009 1:23:02 PM PST by BossLady (POLITICS - Showbiz for Ugly People)
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To: Mark was here
Isn’t Vitimen E supposed to be good for wart removal?

I don't know.

8 posted on 12/30/2009 1:32:22 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
Decision Analysis Supports the Paradigm That Indiscriminate Supplementation of Vitamin E Does More Harm than Good
9 posted on 12/30/2009 1:40:24 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

There are 8 different types of Vit. E and both “natural” and “synthetic” forms that may perform very differently in the human body. We know of only a few physiological functions. There is much more to learn between we start drawing this kinds of conclusions as the above article.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 1:51:48 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: neverdem

Thanks. They don’t specify what is a high dose so I’m comfortable with what I get in my supplements.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 1:53:01 PM PST by decimon
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To: truthguy
I'm far from an expert on vitamins and nutrition but I've read many articles which state that you can definitely overdose on fat-soluble vitamins like A,D,E, & K.

That's true. But it has recently been acknowledged that the RDA for vitamin D was set far too low. So the scare warnings on vitamin D from nutrition experts may have actually harmed the health of millions of people for decades.

12 posted on 12/30/2009 1:57:24 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Mark was here

I heard Vitamin E combats the vapours.


13 posted on 12/30/2009 2:02:27 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (There is no amount of work you can perform that they can't steal from you.)
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To: decimon

It should be the responsibility of each individual taking supplements to determine which amount is correct for them. Everybody’s system is different; some need more some need less than the recommended dosage.

Happy New Year everybody! Be safe if going out to celebrate.


14 posted on 12/30/2009 2:38:35 PM PST by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: tob2
Happy New Year everybody!

And you.

Be safe if going out to celebrate.

I coated my car with vitamin E to ward off heart attacks. ;-)

15 posted on 12/30/2009 2:42:49 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

lol not what I was referring to but quite funny.


16 posted on 12/30/2009 5:50:39 PM PST by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: decimon

Many of these studies are do not take account of the important difference between synthetic Vitamin E and full spectrum natural Vitamin E. In essence, taking synthetic or even natural d-alpha Vitamin E seems to cause a harmful imbalance in Vitamin E metabolism. ALWAYS take full spectrum natural Vitamin E that contains the full range of tocotrienols and tocopherols. If that is done, Vitamin E supplementation is beneficial.


17 posted on 12/30/2009 8:38:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

May I have that for my psych students . . . ?

Love the double binding example.

A bit . . . personal . . . reminds me of . . .

mamma.


18 posted on 12/31/2009 9:13:52 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Rockingham
OK, can you name a GMP-certified purveyor of such balanced tototrienols and tocopherols, please?

I usually go with NOW brands, Country Life, or Nature's Way.

Swanson looks good but the Natural Products Association doesn't list them as GMP-certified...

Thanks!

19 posted on 12/31/2009 9:26:24 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Jarrow is GMP certified.
http://www.nsf.org/Certified/GMP/Listings.asp

They make FamilE
http://www.iherb.com/FamilE-60-Softgels/3304?at=0


20 posted on 12/31/2009 10:54:07 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: grey_whiskers

I am not familiar with the GMP certification program. I mostly use Life Extension products.


21 posted on 12/31/2009 11:53:49 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Quix

Help yourself. Unfortunately, after the 1970s Jewish mother humor was turned from warm, nostalgic humor, into passive-aggressive, angry humor, and for the most part stopped being funny. A lot of people now find it deeply objectionable.


22 posted on 01/01/2010 1:50:54 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Once can certainly laugh and cry over some memories.

Better to laugh, when possible.

She had a heart of gold . . . as well as a ton of her own hurts.

thx


23 posted on 01/01/2010 2:34:09 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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