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Girl, 6, Handcuffed, Committed Because Of Classroom Behavior
ABC 25, WPBF.com ^ | February 10, 2010 | Unlisted in article

Posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:18 AM PST by passionfruit

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- A Port St. Lucie first-grade student was handcuffed and committed to a mental health facility because of her classroom behavior, and her parents are furious that the school took such extreme measures.

Mickey Shalansky explained Wednesday what he said happened to his 6-year-old daughter at Parkway Elementary.

"She couldn't put her in two handcuffs because her wrists are that small, so she put them both in the same handcuff and left marks on my daughter's arms," Shalansky told WPBF 25 News' Bob Kaple.


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; spoiledrottenbrat
A year or so ago, there was a similar piece about a different little girl having been hauled out of school because of out-of-control temper tantrums. In that case they had video of the tantrum, and the kid really did need to be removed from school by any means possible for the safety of the other kids and the staff. This sounds much the same, as the kid was throwing things and hitting a pregnant school staffer, and the parents back the kid 100%. I wonder if they set the example for how to do a temper tantrum for her at home?
1 posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:19 AM PST by passionfruit
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To: passionfruit

GOD help them all


2 posted on 02/12/2010 12:01:28 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: passionfruit

More like the 12 year old arrested in Queens for writing on her desk. We used to stay after school and have to wash all the desks. Now it’s handcuffs.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2010/02/05/2010-02-05_cuffed_for_doodling_on_a_desk.html


3 posted on 02/12/2010 12:02:15 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: passionfruit

Parents pulling an Obama (someone else’s fault).


4 posted on 02/12/2010 12:03:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: passionfruit

They don’t mention the part where the kid hit the 8 month pregnant principal. The kid deserves to be somewhere else .


5 posted on 02/12/2010 12:05:23 PM PST by Azeem (The world will look up and shout "Save us!"... And I'll whisper "No.")
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To: passionfruit
The report also said the school has contacted Haley's parents several times about setting up a meeting to discuss her behavior, but they have never shown up. Franklin said she was supposed to meet with school officials Tuesday but had to cancel because she had car problems.
6 posted on 02/12/2010 12:05:49 PM PST by retrokitten
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To: passionfruit

Early and often.

7 posted on 02/12/2010 12:07:59 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: passionfruit

If they don’t learn their times tables, it’s a night in the cooler!


8 posted on 02/12/2010 12:08:02 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: retrokitten
The child is a direct example of her parents.
9 posted on 02/12/2010 12:08:27 PM PST by boomop1
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To: passionfruit

There is another side to this guys.

I know someone who has an intractable child that actually throws things at teachers, has sat at her desk and emptied it out, hit other children etc. The child does have a emotional condition, and the parents have worked very hard and given up very much to try and salvage her.

The problem is, the school is NOT allowed to discipline her in any way except holding her in a detention room. And even then they cannot take her to the room, they have to call a special teacher TO the room. The room teacher cannot touch her, whatever she does. This is not the parents decision, it is the legal way schools are run nowadays. They live in fear of lawsuits.

She has never been handcuffed, but I could see it happening. Frankly, I would not want to be a public school teacher nowadays. It seems a horrid job.


10 posted on 02/12/2010 12:08:58 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: passionfruit

Sounds like she needs a firm hand or paddle on her backside now and then. Perhaps her parents do, too.


11 posted on 02/12/2010 12:09:37 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: passionfruit

My daughter started having terrible temper tantrums when she was 8 years old.

She had bizarre behavior. (Luckily only at home in the evenings).

(She also has a brain injury that everyone knew about.)

The school thought I was the reason for the tantrums. The principal told my husband and I that I was causing the problems.

Well, we switched her out of the public school. The behavior got better, but still kept on happening.

Then when she was in 5th grade, she had a grand mal seizure. She was then diagnosed with epilepsy and partial complex seizures.

She went on anti-seizure medication, and the strange tantrums went away. (Of course, the first medication made the tantrums more violent and sent her into horrible rages where she punched holes in our walls. Switched medication, and she went back to my sweet little girl.)

Now, I have an excellent psychologist (who is also a nurse). She is so good at explaining when tantrums are neurologically based or a behavior problem. She said that kids with behavior problems consistently act bad. She said she could tell my daughters behavior problems were neurologically based because they happened when she was over-loaded and it was the opposite of her regular behavior. Also, my daughter was very remorseful and didn’t like acting like she did.

Sometimes there are real medical reasons for strange behaviors. I’m glad we didn’t see a psychiastrist until after the MRI and EEG. My daughter would have probably been put on a bad cocktail of horrible medications.


12 posted on 02/12/2010 12:11:59 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: worst-case scenario

Handcuffs do seem to be overkill, however you cannot make a child stay after school and you certainly can’t make them clean desks nowadays. Bottom line? An out of control child should be removed immediately from the classroom, and if they can’t be, the parent should be called to come down and remove them. Of course, we also had problems with parents not giving the school good phone numbers.


13 posted on 02/12/2010 12:12:28 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: gibtx2

No god help us! When we can’t control children in our schools. They should make parents sign a disclaimer that the school uses corporal punishment to control children and that you give the school the right to use this. If you don’t sign the child can’t enroll in the school!!!!!


14 posted on 02/12/2010 12:13:30 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: gibtx2

GOD help us all !


15 posted on 02/12/2010 12:22:41 PM PST by traumer
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To: passionfruit

16 posted on 02/12/2010 12:26:27 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer
One word spanking. Far more appropriate than arrest or commitment.Commiting a child, arresting them, putting them on meds they might not even need does irreperable harm. Spanking does no permanent damage, it merely temporarily humiliates a child and reminds them the grownups are
in charge and they had best behave. When I was a kid if someone had acted this way, the teacher would have spanked them and dragged them to the principals office, the principal would have spanked them, the mom would have to come get them and she would spank them and when the dad got home from work, he would have spanked them.Well guess what, very few kids were wild enough to want to run that gauntlet so it rarely ever happened. Heck if you misbehaved in public, a neighbor or storekeeper or perfect stranger might spank you, truly a polite society.
17 posted on 02/12/2010 12:57:39 PM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: passionfruit

Interesting that the comments at the site are 90% saying the parents are the problem while the poll is 50/50 in voting that the school went too far.


19 posted on 02/12/2010 1:04:01 PM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: luckystarmom

Your post gives great insight into the problems of kids like these.

The girl in the article really did need an internevtion. Who knows what the root of the problem is?


20 posted on 02/12/2010 1:14:22 PM PST by Palladin ("We are the loyal opposition"~~Sarah Palin)
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To: passionfruit
Maybe she was acting up because McDonalds was out of McNuggets.

This is Port St. Lucie.

21 posted on 02/12/2010 1:32:01 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: passionfruit

“I was terrified,” mother Kathy Franklin said. “I left work crying, terrified. Where is my baby? What are they doing with my baby?”


22 posted on 02/12/2010 3:25:36 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Berosus; 240B; AdmSmith; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

What did she do, refuse to swear an oath to Obama? Thanks passionfruit.


23 posted on 02/12/2010 7:34:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Morgana

I think they should call the parents also. Then, I would not let the child back in school without a medical evaluation, or put the child in a special school for kids with behavior problems.

Obviously, something wrong is going on.

It’s amazing how many people put their heads in the sand when this happens.

I remember telling my pediatrician that my daughter was having problems. One pediatrician said I was doing time-outs wrong. Then I saw one psychologist who gave me a book to read. They said that kids with explosive personalities are unable to communicate to their parents. I knew that already because my daughter didn’t talk until she was 5.

(We finally have a good psychologist.)

My husband and I always knew there were problems with our daughter, but we didn’t know how to help her. The public school was the worst at helping. They just ignored issues.


24 posted on 02/12/2010 8:40:57 PM PST by luckystarmom
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