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Little Barry heads back to school next week
The Jakarta Post ^ | 02/13/2010 | Hasyim Widhiarto

Posted on 02/13/2010 10:35:13 AM PST by opentalk

The Central Jakarta administration will move the controversial "Little Barry" statue from its current location at Taman Menteng in Central Jakarta to state elementary school SDN 01 Menteng next week, an official says.

"We are currently discussing with officials from the school and its alumni association," city spokesman Cucu Ahmad Kurnia told reporters Friday. "We hope the move will happen next week."

US President Barack Obama attended the elementary school for almost two years when he spent part of his childhood in Jakarta.

Erected by the Jakarta-based Friends of Obama Foundation in December last year, the statue, which resembles Obama as a boy, recently sparked wide public criticism for insulting the nation's pride.

Just a few days after the Central Jakarta municipality unveiled the statue at Menteng Park, experts and a group of Facebook users demanded it be dismantled.

On Wednesday, the Central Jakarta District Court held a hearing to try a class action lawsuit by five plaintiffs representing 50,000 members of the "Take down the Barack Obama statue from Menteng Park" group on Facebook.

The five plaintiffs - Heru Nugroho, Protus Tanuhandaru, Daniel Rudi Haryanto, Andes Soesman and FX Agung Bimo Sutedjo - filed the suit against Jakarta governor, Central Jakarta mayor and the Jakarta Parks and Cemeteries Agency, saying the statue didn't deserve a place at the park and should be immediately removed.

Although appreciating the administration's plan to remove the statue, Heru said the group would go ahead with its lawsuit.

"We will only withdraw the lawsuit if the city administration publicly apologizes for its one-sided decision to permit the statue," he told The Jakarta Post.

Hawaiian-born Obama moved to Indonesia at the age of six to live with his mother, Ann Dunham, and Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro.

Obama attended third grade at the school in 1968. He returned to Hawaii at the age of 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.


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To: bushpilot1; LucyT; STARWISE
Did he have a nose job?


51 posted on 02/14/2010 3:58:33 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

His nose in the left photo looks swollen, almost as if he’d been hit there.


52 posted on 02/14/2010 4:16:16 PM PST by thecodont
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Las Vegas Ron; Nachum

Allegedly NEW information!!!


53 posted on 02/14/2010 4:45:09 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: maggief

Every now and again I run across something I have not seen before:

(tranlated by google. )

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&u=http://forums.apakabar.ws/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D50331%26sid%3De5499a52b5e2be9058a68652d8057846&ei=W5N4S5aSMJO1tgefsuWtCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBEQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522maya%2Bsutoro%2522%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us

by admin » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:00 pm by admin »Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:00 pm
Mbak Nun: Barry Naughty, But Good
M. M. Rizal Maslan - detikNews

Jakarta—Maybe it’s a lot of people
mahfum United States Presidential Candidate Barack Obama lived in Jakarta. However, not many know little
about Obama’s life in the region Menteng Dalam, South Jakarta in the era of the
early 1970’s.

Perhaps only Lia (47) is often called ‘Nun ya’ know
the daily life of a small Obama, while living with their parents in the U.S.
presidential Haji Ramli Street, Menteng Dalam.

Mbak Nun who was then 12-year-old nanny made by one of PT
Pertamina Manejer named Lolo Suntoro, who was none other than Barack Obama
stepfather.

“At that time I ran away from home parents in
Sukabumi. Suddenly there was a neighbor who worked as Mr. Lolo invited to
Jakarta and to work and stay at home Mr. Lolo,” said Lia aka Mbak Noon start
raising Barack Obama story in the rented house in Jalan salvation No. 9 RT 007
RW 02, Manggarai Selatan, Tebet, Jaksel, Friday (12/9/2008).

Nun ya at the
age of two years older than Barack Obama used to call her employer calls the
child’s familiarity with the name of Barry. “Dulu saat baru datang, saya pikir
Barry itu perempuan, nggak tahunya anak laki-laki, hitam lagi,” kenangnya. “Once
when I was just coming, I thought Barry was a woman, not him boys, black again,”
he recalls.

Nun ya even then
recounts his life journey for three years along with Barry who knew super
naughty and naughty. Barry, he continued, with a stubbornness often
punished Any, Barack Obama’s own mother.

“Sometimes nakaknya
so, if the Caucasians may not ngak vain delights, especially outside the home.
Any mother often reminded to only eat food in the house. But Barry instead often
ask me to buy snacks outside, so I hide out, hide out and do not tell that by
buying snacks. If caught, we put together, “he said Cibadak born woman,
Sukabumi, now has three children of this.

Another Obama’s misbehavior, said Mbak Nun, when he
was showered often flushed itself into wet. That naughty Barry if you want to get to school, he likes when
it’s bath water to me guyur up soaking wet, but I had a bath and wear, yes
finally more frequent change,” he said.

Nun ya
besides raising accompany Obama also likes to sleep in her room. Sebab,Because, ya Nun
and Obama was sleeping a room with a different bed.

“Oh,
Barry is if you want to sleep, I had to play with until he fell asleep, even
late into the night. If I fall asleep there jailnya wrote,” he said.

Annoying
again, according to Nun ya, little Obama love to collect little flags, both red
and white and the U.S. flag in his room. “He likes to put little
flags for the same 17an U.S. flag. In the same bed he fitted me well. Sometimes
I’m annoyed, because it can not sleep,” he said.

Any, Barack Obama’s own mother is hard enough to teach their children. Kadang sering
menghukum Barack Obama, kalau tidak mau belajar, jajan sembarangan, apalagi
kalau melawan omelannya. Sometimes often punish Barack Obama, if you do not want
to learn, snack carelessly, especially when fighting omelannya.

“If you do not want to learn his punishment beater rattan handle
duster wearing, sometimes the most frequently locked in the bathroom and not
fed,” he recalls.

Feeling sorry, do not ya Nun rarely
gives food through the bathroom window without the consent of her mother.If caught, the risk of Nun ya must accompany Obama in the
bathroom until the afternoon or evening.

Obama bad habits a little, when
her mother was advised frequent hand clenched like people want to punch her in
the back.

“One time he was
dinasehatin time, but when ngepelin hand, ngak Any mother him and instantly
turned angry. Barry immediately locked in the bathroom and locked until the
mother came home later that afternoon,” he added.

Although
mischievous, knowing ya Noon, Barry including a good person. Especially often distribute food to him.
It’s just life in school, Nun ya did not know, because
only the driver mengatarkan.

“It can not, because
the driver just nganter. Then after school, Barry was also banned abwa friends
to the house,” she said again.


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Detik: Diledek ‘Monyet Hitam’, Barry Tertawa Seconds: teasing ‘Black Monkey’,
Barry Laugh

by admin » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:03 pm by admin »Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:03 pm
Jakarta - While Barack Obama little naughty, but
in the eyes of caregivers, the U.S. presidential candidates are fairly good.
Even so good, as is often teased
‘black monkey’, the indigenous children, Obama replied with a smile.

Call pitched mockery
Menteng children were thrown in as little as Obama often climb the mango tree in
front of his house. S When picking mangoes, he often
threw to passersby, including children age.

“He
often climbed mango trees around the house, he often picked the fruit. I wrote
often forced to climb, too. He may be bad as people threw fruit. Actually, he
meant to give to people,” said Lia (47) aka Mbak Nun who met in rented on the
road safety No. 9, RT 007 RW 02, Manggarai Selatan, Tebet, South Jakarta, Friday
(12/9/2008).

“Yes because Barry (small calls Obama) do not
understand our language (Indonesian) he laughed wrote,” clearly Mbak Noon.

“I said do not be mad, because his skin is black. He was mischievous, but good, she was often
speak English with her mother,” he said.

Noon own ya know only a small Obama in the environment
in Menteng Dalam has only two friends who often play, which one the children of
the Caucasians and other people of Papua.
Obama often often breaking things in the
house.The
reason, the children’s age Obama, often running around the house.

When was
that, Mother Any (Obama’s own mother) immediately punished.
“A lot of damaged goods at Barry, he often
ran-running as well. Nakal really for kids sizes, so laundry and other helpers
are often angry with him,” he explained.
Because so annoyed, Mbak Nun Obama
claimed to have persuaded the small to eat great chili red. Tidak pelak lagi,
Obama pun menangis dan mukanya merah karena kepedasan. No doubt, Obama was
crying and his face was red because of spiciness.

“I asked as Mr. Lolo, why Barry cry. I said, I love chili,
abis Barry ketulungan not naughty, but you is not mad at that,” he recalls.


54 posted on 02/14/2010 4:59:30 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Never read that before ... I think I’d remember the migraine. LOL!

Some interesting stuff there, I think. :)

“I thought Barry was a woman”

“Oh,
Barry is if you want to sleep, I had to play with until he fell asleep, even
late into the night. If I fall asleep there jailnya wrote,” he said.


55 posted on 02/14/2010 5:21:26 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Lolo and Ann employed a 12 year old nanny?
Sounds like child exploitation to me.


56 posted on 02/14/2010 5:39:07 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

Barry was a brat, it seems.


57 posted on 02/14/2010 5:45:09 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

http://ournewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/story-of-nursemaid-barack-obama.html

Saturday, September 13, 2008
Story Of Nursemaid Barack Obama
Nothing Doing President Also, Mbak Nun Wish To Meet

Jakarta - Feel have never met since 32 last year, former nursemaid Barack Obama wish to meet. Even, although Obama do not become President USA, Mbak Nun wish to meet, remember his naughty.

” I disjointed since Barry class primary, since then I not have ever there are contact again, more than anything else Maya (the sister Obama), do not know contact where? Because since childhood he be also gone away with his mother, “ said Lia ( 47) alias Mbak Nun which is met in its contract matter in Jalan Traditional party, Manggarai South, Tebet, Jakarta South, Friday ( 12 / 9 / 2008).

” I want meets to him, more than anything else I hear he wants to become President USA. I miss get if meeting, I remember to the mischief. President cancel to also I want meets, more than anything else Maya, his sister, “ Mbak Nun flux also by confesses sure Barack Obama recognizes with himself, because she knows in left foot bent Obama is hurt ex- fall to got at the time of climbing mango tree.

Mbak Nun till the year 1981 himself still still working with Lolo Santoro family, stepfather Barack Obama during 10 year. “ Since I married, I still liking to play to house Mr. Lolo in Menteng Dalam, “ say her.

According To Mbak Nun, after mother and his stepfather divorced, himself for a while meet with Barry. That moment, Barry asks himself can follow, but do not be given by permit by its stepfather to be brought by to USA.

” Barry was crying that moment for a while. Of course after split-ups equal father, Barry, Virtual and his mother lives in Jackfruit Gangway, Ciputat some old, “ she reasserted.

Barry himself before going for a while give souvenir to Mbak Nun. Mbak Nun examplizes, like two counterpanes, two glasses and souvenir house of custom Tanatoraja property of Barry is passed to himself and now is kept by in Sukabumi.
(mbak = miss)
Source : detikcom


58 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:59 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

for the record:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:r3Yk_0ZoX60J:www.politics.ie/foreign-affairs/82790-obamas-political-heritage-massacre-indonesia.html+anne+sutoro&cd=121&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


I have found that the translated Indonesian sites, no matter how fragmented, offer the most uncensored info we have seen so far. :-)


59 posted on 02/14/2010 6:00:37 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: hennie pennie

One of these days!!!

Thanks for the ping.


60 posted on 02/14/2010 9:04:24 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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To: danamco
How can she be an American citizen when born in Indonesia and went to school there???

She can be an American citizen, in the eyes of US Law, if not Indonesian, because she was born outside the US of a US Citizen parent and an alien parent, and by then Stanley Ann was elibible to pass US citizenship on to her child. She was not when Barry was born, if he was born outside the US. But it's not citizenship that is at issue, if born in the US Barry is a citizen, and telling the Indonesian authorities otherwise doesn't change that. However since his father was not a citizen, ever, unless he's lying about who that was, he cannot be a Natural Born Citizen regardless of where he was born.

61 posted on 02/14/2010 11:20:17 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Fred Nerks
the same little chinese boy

Inoue is a Japanese name, different spelling of same name as Senator Inouye from Hawaii, who served in the all "Japanese" 442nd regimental combat team (originally Hawaii National Guard) in Italy and France in WW-II where he was very seriously injured.

62 posted on 02/14/2010 11:33:45 PM PST by El Gato
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To: maggief
Did he have a nose job?

Could be, or it could be that he got whacked with a basketball shortly before the first photo was taken. Been there done that. Twice... well once was a football, broke my glasses frame both times.

63 posted on 02/14/2010 11:40:01 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
...Scott Inoue, now a chiropractor in Stockton, Calif., said the small, black-and-white photo had been stashed away for almost 40 years at his childhood home in Manoa. For some reason, Inoue said, as he was growing up he always remembered that photo and wondered what became of "Barry."

SOURCE

64 posted on 02/15/2010 12:04:28 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: El Gato
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS DIRECTORY.link

CORRECTION: same little JAPANESE BOY

65 posted on 02/15/2010 12:07:55 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: El Gato; Fred Nerks

I thought that Ann returned to Hawaii to give birth to Maya?? I thought she was born in Honolulu?? And that it was HER long form BC that became the template to make photoshopped forgeries of a BC for her half brother, BHO?


66 posted on 02/15/2010 5:50:45 AM PST by hennie pennie ( /)
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To: expatguy; AmericanInTokyo; kristinn; RummyChick; SJackson; SunkenCiv; Nachum; Moe Tzadik; ...
Hey... what's this about the discovery of a young nanny who cared for naughty Barry in Indonesia???

Anyone happen to know if there is a proper English translation of this NEW article, anywhere, available?

Little Barry was locked in the bathroom and not given food???? Huh? BEATEN by Ann with the rattan handle of the duster???

What else does this woman know about the Soetoro family??? WHERE is she now?

It is absolutely PREPOSTEROUS that nobody in the mainstream media has interviewed this woman. MAYBE there is more in the foreign press, somewhere else, another country????

67 posted on 02/15/2010 6:01:06 AM PST by hennie pennie ( /)
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To: hennie pennie

The MSM covered for Clinton for as long as possible, but eventually the truth leaked out. They covered for john edwards for quite a while until they got behind obama. When they figured edwards was of no use to them, he got outed. The MSM openly campaigned for obama. They were his propaganda arm. They are never going to admit they were wrong. But the truth on kenya/indonesia boy will eventually sneak out. You will know what is true based on how hard the obama media fights against it. They just can’t help it.


68 posted on 02/15/2010 6:06:40 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: hennie pennie; justiceseeker93

Thanks hennie pennie.


69 posted on 02/15/2010 6:36:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: hennie pennie

locked up and not fed and the caregiver gave him food through the bathroom window sometimes even though punishment was to be locked up with him if caught.

I can’t figure out this one

“Another Obama’s misbehavior, said Mbak Nun, when he
was showered often flushed itself into wet. That naughty Barry if you want to get to school, he likes when
it’s bath water to me guyur up soaking wet, but I had a bath and wear, yes
finally more frequent change,” he said.”


70 posted on 02/15/2010 6:36:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: hennie pennie

First I have heard of this.


71 posted on 02/15/2010 6:39:34 AM PST by Ditter
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To: bgill

barry’s head is big in many photos..look again at the one with Lolo Ann and maya as a baby where they are sitting down.

take into account that he had surgery at some point on his skull. I dont think it was when he was a baby..but if so..may be had something wrong with his head at birth. One photo looks like he has a shunt.


72 posted on 02/15/2010 6:40:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
VERY interesting, I've noticed that the alleged photograph from 3rd grade where BHO is hugging his little classmate friend . . . that it looks like Barry is TWICE the size of the other little boy.

It's a very strange pic.

73 posted on 02/15/2010 7:11:19 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: RummyChick
I wondered if that might be a garbled translation of what we might call a "Water Fight" where everyone gets badly splashed with lots of water, and need to change into dry clothing.

??????

I wish we had a freeper who could translate for us.

74 posted on 02/15/2010 7:13:02 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Ohhhhh They’d be on it in droves if it had to do anything to do with somebody in the Palin family getting switched...and even if it were 30 years ago, too.


75 posted on 02/15/2010 7:49:07 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: timestax
BUMP

76 posted on 02/15/2010 7:50:53 AM PST by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: timestax; stephenjohnbanker; TigerLikesRooster
"Members of the "Take Down the Barack Obama Statue in Menteng Park" group on Facebook say Obama has done nothing for Indonesia. "Barack Obama has yet to make a significant contribution to the Indonesian nation. We could say Obama only ate and shit in Menteng. He spent his subsequent days living as an American," the web page says. "For the dignity of a sovereign nation, Barack Obama's monument in Menteng Park must be removed immediately."

Bowing to foreign dictators and others will eventually get you this disdain and lack of respect. Especially as anyone with half a brain knows particularly about here in ASIA. How foolish, these naive, over-benevolent bowing and scraping Americn libs and their perverted, unrealistic world view, and their embarrassment of American Power. What goes around comes around.

77 posted on 02/15/2010 8:00:39 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This was all predictable, and will get worse.


78 posted on 02/15/2010 9:14:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: hennie pennie
I thought that Ann returned to Hawaii to give birth to Maya?? I thought she was born in Honolulu?? And that it was HER long form BC that became the template to make photoshopped forgeries of a BC for her half brother, BHO?

Hmm, no on all counts. Starting with the last.

Most likely the posted Certification of Live Birth that was posted was just made up of whole cloth, in a graphics program like Photoshop, not "copied" from any other COLB. But in any event, that is not the "Long Form" the long form from the early 60s looks like this:

While this is the posted COLB

As you can see they are two different forms entirely.

All reports indicate she was born in Indonesia.

Never heard of S. A. returing to Hawaii for Maya's birth. Has anyone else? According to Obama.net, and many other sources/ She was born on August 15th, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia.

79 posted on 02/15/2010 11:22:49 AM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Thank you, El Gato, for correcting me, I was mistaken — but isn’t Maya an American citizen, NOW???


80 posted on 02/15/2010 12:26:35 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

yOU FIND SOME TRULY GOOD THREADS! tHANKS pENNIE


81 posted on 02/15/2010 1:00:20 PM PST by JustPiper (Where IS the "Progress in PROGRESSIVE" ?!? Don't Trust anything with a "Caucus")
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To: hennie pennie

Lia (47) alias Mbak Nun

Not just beaten with the rattan but locked in the bathroom until night.

Lia also tells the story of how she was punished together with young Barry by Ann Soetoro for simply bringing him outside food to eat.

Barry's mother Ann liked to lock him in the bathroom and Lia would pity him and give him food through the bathroom window.

Locking a kid up in the bathroom and then not releasing him until the next afternoon is pretty damn cruel.

The Indonesian story of Lia (Mbak Nun) is not kind at all to Obama's mother Ann at all.

You can expect to see a lot more of these stories from the Indonesian media, none of them will be covered by the US MSM you can be assured of that.

There is a LOT more you are going to learn about Obama in the days ahead including a lot concerning his religion. The Indonesian government intends to treat him not just as a visiting head of state but as a fellow muslim in their own protocol.

Im hoping I can get some time to work on this and give updates concerning the trip.

82 posted on 02/16/2010 9:04:59 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: expatguy; JustPiper; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; SunkenCiv; STARWISE; sonofstrangelove; Fred Nerks; ...
w@w, eXpatguy, thanks for the translation!!

I have seriously wondered about Stanley Ann, ever since I heard that she'd waken Barry every morning at 4 am and make him read aloud english language books. Much less that she dumped him with his grandparents at age 10.

It doesn't surprise me to learn that she also would lock him in the bathroom overnight without any food, as a punitive measure.

NO wonder we now have a TOTUS -- that's ALL he was trained in childhood, was to Read Aloud with Perfect Enunciation. He's Batterred Barry, spawn of Mommy Dearest.

83 posted on 02/16/2010 9:13:17 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: nw_arizona_granny; CondoleezzaProtege; Rushmore Rocks; DvdMom; Smokin' Joe; decimon

Don’t miss expatguy’s post, just w@w!!!!


84 posted on 02/16/2010 9:15:01 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: expatguy; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ..
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Not just beaten with the rattan handle of the duster, but locked in the bathroom (over) night.

Lia also tells the story of how she was punished together with young Barry by Ann Soetoro for simply bringing him outside food to eat.

Barry's mother Ann liked to lock him in the bathroom and Lia would pity him and give him food through the bathroom window.

Locking a kid up in the bathroom and then not releasing him until the next afternoon is pretty damn cruel.

The Indonesian story of Lia (Mbak Nun) is not kind at all to Obama's mother Ann at all.

You can expect to see a lot more of these stories from the Indonesian media, none of them will be covered by the US MSM you can be assured of that.

There is a LOT more you are going to learn about Obama in the days ahead including a lot concerning his religion. The Indonesian government intends to treat him not just as a visiting head of state but as a fellow muslim in their own protocol.

85 posted on 02/16/2010 9:36:12 AM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT; hennie pennie; expatguy

Thanks for the pings.

Expat, please keep us updated.


86 posted on 02/16/2010 9:38:49 AM PST by Rushmore Rocks (Dollar a Day Member..............Free Republic is not Free!)
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To: hennie pennie

Could we have found a candidate with more personal baggage????


87 posted on 02/16/2010 9:40:49 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 390 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Re: the link in post #54 —

the story about the flight to Norway and good-guy Obama picking up the excess baggage tab for “Mary” — have we heard before about him traveling to Norway in 1988? Or did I misread, and he was just standing in line and not boarding?

Where did he get this traveling money, enough to spread cash around benevolently, when he had, according to the article, just left a low-paying “community organizer” job to return to school?

Something I haven’t seen before. Anyone else have info or thoughts?


88 posted on 02/16/2010 10:14:26 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: expatguy; maggief
If she was 47 in 2008 her birth year would be 1961.

She was 10? or 12? when she worked for Lolo and Stanley Ann as a Nanny for a 10 year old.

A 10 or 12 year old nanny often locked in the bathroom with 10 year old Barry. How big were Indonesian bathrooms at the time? Were they closets with a toilet?

Damn, I thought I came from a dysfunctional family.:-)

89 posted on 02/16/2010 10:44:32 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: bushpilot1

Look at the distortion on Aug. 5 right above Obama’s announcement.

I work with a guy who’s been printing newspapers for over half a century. He showed me how they did the linotype. They used metal letters, sort of like the old typewriters had the metal letters which impacted the ink ribbon to leave the letter on the paper. When they typed a letter on the linotype machine it released a metal letter from a cache which fell into place in a line of letters. When the line was done the metal letters were secured together with hot lead. So each line was its own specially-made “stamp”.

The lines were placed one above the other inside a metal frame. Everything had to be very tight. And then the small frames were held together inside a frame that was the size of the page. That frame was placed on the press and the papers were pressed up against that inked frame to make the image on the paper.

So when you see the frames on the page that’s exactly what it was - a metal frame.

If you look on this paper you’ll see that the announcements are uninterrupted going down - just one line of type following another - until an ad breaks up the continuity.

Some of the lines don’t show up clearly. I imagine that’s normal when microfilms are made. But the EXTRA lines we see would have to come from the microfilm machine or from a copy machine. Vertical lines could come from wear and tear of the reader on the films. I’m not so sure what would cause horizontal lines.

Maybe somebody who’s worked with microfilm could help us out on that.

But the placement of a horizontal line right before and after Obama and the Asing announcement, coupled with the distortion on just the words right above that top horizontal line do look fishy to me. We know the horizontal line is not from the frames because it actually crosses out some of the words on the far right side of the page.

Just eye-balling it, the whole left-hand column doesn’t look square with the rest of the columns.


90 posted on 02/16/2010 10:59:39 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LucyT

Oh great, now he can play the wounded deer. Poor little Barry, a victim of child abuse. Excuses for what an effed up Marxist he is now.


91 posted on 02/16/2010 11:25:24 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: butterdezillion

Clue... forget the microfilm.... actual old newspapers from that date...that will bust Barry.


92 posted on 02/16/2010 11:27:35 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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. . . . Just FYI; check out #90.

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93 posted on 02/16/2010 11:28:45 AM PST by LucyT
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To: mojitojoe

Heh.


94 posted on 02/16/2010 11:30:16 AM PST by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion

Yes. It’s the lines that give it away....Look at HGTV the header for several programs use fake ad pages....They use the lines as they appeared in the old time papers. The lines on these two are a dead give away that the announcements were altered.

Adds are created differently than the news....”strippers” cut and paste the ads in place creating the lines.


95 posted on 02/16/2010 11:36:51 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: butterdezillion

Yeah, the Obama newspaper announcements look like they have the tell-tale signs of being cut and paste jobs.


96 posted on 02/16/2010 11:53:18 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe

Agreed. So far we haven’t found any place that has actual paper copies of the newspapers. Surprise, surprise.


97 posted on 02/16/2010 12:14:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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“Yeah, the Obama newspaper announcements look like they have the tell-tale signs of being cut and paste jobs.”

Well, Obama is our first cut & paste POTUS.


98 posted on 02/16/2010 12:25:14 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: butterdezillion

Linotype would have been used in 1961.

Linotype machines were phased out in the 70s and replaced by offset printing, which used computer-produced copy that was cut, waxed, and adhered to a mock-up of the page, which was then photographed. The full-sized negative was then used to produce the final print.

Were it not for the fact that the horizontal line extends across all columns, not just the one with the Obama birth announcement, I would strongly suspect that the Obama announcement was cut and pasted.

However, that line does reach across columns. No way to tell from here what caused it. Once again, we’d have to see an original newsprint of that date to know.

The Hawaii newspapers almost certainly keep originals in their morgues, but who has access?


99 posted on 02/16/2010 12:46:12 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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Re: the link in post #54 —

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2450678/posts?page=54#54

the story about the flight to Norway and good-guy Obama picking up the excess baggage tab for “Mary” — have we heard before about him traveling to Norway in 1988? Or did I misread, and he was just standing in line and not boarding?

Where did he get this traveling money, enough to spread cash around benevolently, when he had, according to the article, just left a low-paying “community organizer” job to return to school?

Something I haven’t seen before. Anyone else have info or thoughts?

Good questions, Jedidah; thanks.

100 posted on 02/16/2010 12:48:42 PM PST by LucyT
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