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The DNA Angle
My thought Process | 2/14/10 | Myself

Posted on 02/14/2010 4:15:32 PM PST by rambo316

I have been thinking this evening about this subject of eligibility or Obama's lack there of. After reading Jack Cashill's latest column on the subject, I really started thinking.

Obama Sr. was not a citizen of the United states, then that makes Obama purely ineligible to be President of the United States.

Also, today, we have DNA. Obama's supposed siblings are still living. Couldn’t we send investigators to those countries where they reside and get DNA samples from Obama's half siblings. He supposedly has half siblings from the Obama Sr. side and half siblings from the mother's side in Indonesia. Wouldn't the DNA samples get to the bottom of the facts? Also, is that guy Frank Marshall still alive? If he is, let's get his DNA sample also. Remember, back in the 90's we got samples off a blue dress That matched Slick Willie's DNA.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificage; birthcertificate; blackbisexuals; blackhomosexuality; blackhomosexuals; certifigate; dna; fake; frankmarshalldavis; illegal; ineligible; malcolmx; naturalborncitizen; onthedownlow; stanleydunham; stanleyinchicago; stanleyinseattle; whoseyourdaddy; whosyourdaddy
I have not heard this angle before my fellow Patriots but it is worth looking into. Above text is from a personal email that I wrote to Joe Farah at WND.
1 posted on 02/14/2010 4:15:32 PM PST by rambo316
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To: rambo316

Hope this sees the light of day. God Bless you all. Hope we find the truth.


2 posted on 02/14/2010 4:18:20 PM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: rambo316

How do you propose to get a sample of the subject’s DNA?

For what purpose? Don’t we already know who the biological father is?


3 posted on 02/14/2010 4:19:26 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: rambo316
Hello?

If he's not going to let people see his birth certificate, he's harly going to submit to DNA testing.

ML/NJ

4 posted on 02/14/2010 4:19:35 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: rambo316

IBTZ


5 posted on 02/14/2010 4:21:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberals love the poor so much they came up w/ a plan to create millions more of them. - Ann Coulter)
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To: rambo316
Obama Sr. was not a citizen of the United states, then that makes Obama purely ineligible to be President of the United States.

Nobody claims Sr. was an American citizen. The argument is over whether the child of a non-American and an American is "natural-born" if born in the USA. I come down on the side that says he is.

Of course, there is also some argument about where he was born, but I've seen nothing resembling evidence that he was born anywhere but Hawaii.

Questions and odd coincidences won't cut it. If you want to challenge his eligibility someone will have to come up with actual evidence, which has to date been in real short supply.

6 posted on 02/14/2010 4:22:06 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: sodpoodle

If he is who he says he is, then there should be no problem. But of there is, there are ways to get it.


7 posted on 02/14/2010 4:22:39 PM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: Sherman Logan
>"I've seen nothing resembling evidence that he was born anywhere but Hawaii. "

I've seen nothing resembling evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

Back to you Jane.

8 posted on 02/14/2010 4:24:17 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: rambo316
Here's a pic of his half brother who lives in China, see a resemblance?


9 posted on 02/14/2010 4:25:38 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: rambo316
Obama Sr. was not a citizen of the United states, then that makes Obama purely ineligible to be President of the United States.

No, it doesn't. If O was born in the states/territories, then he's a natural-born citizen, regardless of whether both parents are citizens.

10 posted on 02/14/2010 4:26:14 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I looked at my acronym database and could not find IBTZ.

Great Tag line. Have a great night.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 4:28:11 PM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree with you and just wish that folks would expend their energy getting American socialists out of office, starting with a whole slew of congress critters of the progressive bent, members of both major parties.


12 posted on 02/14/2010 4:28:36 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: onyx

From that picture, no I don’t see one.


13 posted on 02/14/2010 4:33:13 PM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: onyx

They say mothers love their children more because they are more sure they are their own.

I am concerned about his Occidental college records, Harvard records, high school records. With GW Bush we got to read of his hemoroid operation. With Kerry we never got to read his (dishonorable?) discharge papers. I am concerned about the double standard, and some correction needs to be made to our process. Something along the lines of “No privacy of records shall be extended to the personal papers or records of any person who registers to run for the office of President.”

Non of us voted for him, I am pretty sure. Why couldn’t we convince enough others?


14 posted on 02/14/2010 4:38:21 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: donmeaker

Mothers love their children more because they have mothers’ instinct. That’s not a human thing. That’s a mammal thing.

If obama is not eligible, then he’s not eligible. It doesn’t matter who or how many people vote for him. What we need is to see the documents. Then we can decide eligibility.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 4:50:00 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: donmeaker
“No privacy of records shall be extended to the personal papers or records of any person who registers to run for the office of President.”

I'm in complete agreement with you. Recall that Clinton never released his medical records?

At times I've wondered about the members of congress who are privy to our nation's top secrets and also about those in the adminstration with the same 'top security clearances.' How would we know whether any have been rejected and on what grounds?

Also, how is it that Rahm Emanuel has a top security clearance, when in fact, he holds dual citizenship?

*I also think this POTUS members of his administration should be given a polygraph just the like CIA and FBI are given.* Actually, I think the whole damn lot of them need to be removed and sent to GITMO.

16 posted on 02/14/2010 4:53:24 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: rambo316
I don't think that there is any doubt that this is ‘technically’ possible. However, it would take some significant resources and cooperation. On Maobowma’s supposed father's side, there are certainly a number of candidates if they could be persuaded to give a DNA sample. My guess is that on his mother's side, it would probably be far more difficult - if nothing else, the number of potential candidates are few. As for the subject himself, I can't possibly imagine that a DNA sample could be obtained.
17 posted on 02/14/2010 5:00:42 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Sherman Logan

“I come down on the side that says he is.”

Well, since your not in charge that would be an unimportant opinion.
The laws of the US in 1961 or prior (depending on when he was born)say that even if he was born in the states he can’t be natural born if he was the spawn of a 16 year old minor and a foreign national.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 5:20:19 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: sodpoodle

I believe in all of this but its all a moot point.....even if there was video evidence of zero’s non-citizenship, the lacky congress would pass a law that anybody can become prez RETROACTIVELY....thats’ what they want anyway...


19 posted on 02/14/2010 5:25:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

There is a good blog going on right now at Drkatesview. It is a proven fact that the SSAN Obummer is using belongs to a man born in the 1880s in Connecticut, and who applied for his SSAN in 1935. Obummer was never in Connecticut. The original owner of the SSAN is now long dead. Bloggers are are saying that SSAN numbers are retired once the owner of that SSAN has died, thus Obummer’s use of a fraudulent SSAN is a serious offense, with a 10 year jail term. Take a gander at that blog for all the fine points. And wouldn’t it be fun if he got hauled off to jail for ten years for feloniously using a SSAN which is not his.


20 posted on 02/14/2010 5:32:27 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: cherry

Then lets force Congress to do just that, so we can have more evidence as to how corrupt and subversive they are. I am not kidding.


21 posted on 02/14/2010 7:57:53 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: hennie pennie; justiceseeker93; 240B; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Obama's supposed siblings are still living. Couldn't we send investigators to those countries where they reside and get DNA samples from Obama's half siblings. He supposedly has half siblings from the Obama Sr. side and half siblings from the mother's side in Indonesia. Wouldn't the DNA samples get to the bottom of the facts? Also, is that guy Frank Marshall still alive? If he is, let's get his DNA sample also.
Okay, everybody off the bus.

Seriously -- if his supporters don't give a damn (and it's clear that they don't), they won't listen to scientific evidence (they've rejected science in favor of their various pathologically self-centered antisocial biases); furthermore, what happens if there aren't even good matches between the supposed siblings? Then what?
22 posted on 02/14/2010 8:14:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: rambo316
DNA testing of the proper people would sort things out, but the people involved may not be willing to participate.

Something is present on that birth certificate that Obama does not want anyone to see, and increasingly, I think it will show that the Kenyan is not his father, depriving him of the relatively exotic name and background. He certainly looks astonishingly like his "grandfather" Stanley Dunham.

Who are the president's biological parents? We may not know for a long time.
23 posted on 02/14/2010 8:55:46 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: 9422WMR
Well, since your not in charge that would be an unimportant opinion.

Quite true. If not spelled entirely correctly.

The laws of the US in 1961 or prior (depending on when he was born)say that even if he was born in the states he can’t be natural born if he was the spawn of a 16 year old minor and a foreign national.

Your (equally unimportant) opinion is at minimum unproven and probably inaccurate. No definitive opinion has been issued by a court on what the Constitution, with amendments, means by "natural born." Until the Supremes rule on this issue, there is no definitive answer.

24 posted on 02/15/2010 2:16:29 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

In practical terms, the burden of proof is on the birthers.

They’ll have to prove he isn’t eligible. Not fair, possibly, but that’s the way it is.


25 posted on 02/15/2010 2:19:06 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks; LucyT; STARWISE

If there are no matches, then we exhume the body of Malcolm X and/or Frank Marshall Davis.


26 posted on 02/15/2010 6:20:27 AM PST by hennie pennie ( /)
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To: Nepeta
>>> "DNA testing of the proper people would sort things out, but the people involved may not be willing to participate." <<<

I don't think the original poster was referring to THAT kind of DNA testing, where people give a sample via a swab in their mouth.

NO.

Rather, like in the sp00k books and spy movies, you read about Intel Agents retrieving paper cups out of trash cans in order to have a DNA sample -- you'd have to gather all the DNA samples COVERTLY, like a private investigator or CIA agent or foreign spy would do. You know, collect the hair on the floor at the barbershop, when noone's looking.

27 posted on 02/15/2010 6:30:37 AM PST by hennie pennie ( /)
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To: rambo316
Wouldn't the DNA samples get to the bottom of the facts?

I posted this as sarcasm, back before Christmas of 2008. Birtherism: So wacky that it can't even be mocked.

... in the Holiday spirit, I would like to give those Freepers trying to flog life into this dead horse a couple of ideas about other avenues to pursue.

1. Is BO a Human??? Maybe he is a cyborg. Maybe he is of non-terran origin. Have you seen the DNA tests showing him to be a human? Has anyone? Why won't he release samples of his DNA to independent labs?

2. Fourteen years a resident of the United States??? The Constitution requires that the President have been a resident of the United States for the past fourteen years. But BO has, for the past four years, been living in no state at all, but in the District of Columbia. And before that? Texas has people who think that, because of some paper work foul up in the Annexation in 1846, Texas is not a State, but still an independent republic.What of Illinois? Maybe there was some paper work foul up with the Treaty of Pairs in 1763, and Illinois is still a French Colony. Has anyone looked into that?

Are either of these issue meritorious? No. But they aren't much worse than the birth in Kenya, or Canada, or wherever argument. And at least they make for a change of pace.

28 posted on 02/15/2010 6:54:28 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: rambo316
I have not heard this angle before my fellow Patriots but it is worth looking into.

This is nothing but a rabbit trail that Obama would love people to travel down as it leads to nowhere, no matter how many dead bodies you dig up.

If he won't produce his birth certificate, what makes you think he will produce his DNA, which is more closely guarded by normal people.

Anyway DNA testing has suffered credibility issues in the last couple of years. It's not all that conslusive.

His name is consistent with that of his father listed on a divorce decree in Hawaii. There is no way around that no matter how hard you try. He is Barack Obama, son of a Kenyan national, and thus not qualified to be POTUS --- period --- no matter what he wants us to speculate otherwise.

29 posted on 02/15/2010 10:48:46 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: sodpoodle

Do we? How do we know that?


30 posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:40 PM PST by Josephat
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To: hennie pennie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
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The DNA Angle

Interesting comments, here. Also, check out #16, and #23.

[Thanks, hennie pennie.]

31 posted on 02/16/2010 8:25:58 AM PST by LucyT
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To: rambo316

Another good reason to cremate grannie. If it turned out she was not related, that could be bad for O.


32 posted on 02/16/2010 9:16:07 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: rambo316
"Also, is that guy Frank Marshall still alive?"

No! If he did impregnate Stanley Ann Dunham he would have been 55 yrs old at the time.

Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987).

33 posted on 02/16/2010 10:24:46 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: rambo316
Why?

Obama has admitted his father was a non-citizen. He put it in a book. The COLB everyone gets so upset about identifies as his father an admitted non-citizen. The fact that his father was a non-citizen is a stipulated fact at this point. No one needs to prove it.

The problem is that this fact is not seen by the legal and electoral system as precluding his being a NBC. That is the issue you need to work if you want to pursue this.

34 posted on 02/16/2010 2:34:53 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: LibFreeOrDie; rambo316

Here’s an attorney’s view on what you claim!!!

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


35 posted on 02/16/2010 9:55:30 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

There is another lie that the Zero told during the campaign that nobody is talking about. That being that Sr. was part of the airlift out of Kenya. Another, “You Lie” moment that the media will not cover. The only News source out there that reports about this “Lie” is the one and only WND and Joe Farah.


36 posted on 02/17/2010 12:45:38 AM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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