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Top 40 rejects: Why are none of these people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
New York Daily News ^ | March 15, 2010 | Jim Farber

Posted on 03/16/2010 12:16:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Another year, another reason to raise bloody hell over who didn't get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame — and who did. Tonight, a fresh class of five historic names will march into the coveted main hall: ABBA, Jimmy Cliff, Genesis, the Hollies and the Stooges.

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Ouch. Some deserved groups are not among the honored.
1 posted on 03/16/2010 12:16:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Top 40 rejects: Why are none of these people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?”

Because they perform ACTUAL Rock and Roll rather than folk or “pop” garbage?


2 posted on 03/16/2010 12:19:57 PM PDT by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Which is probably why I'll never go to the R&R HOF, besides the obvious fact it's in Cleveland, of all places.

And the article is wrong--some of Rush's best stuff WAS during what they labeled that "first awful decade"; i.e., 2112, Fly By Night, and Moving Pictures.
3 posted on 03/16/2010 12:20:56 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Alice Cooper deserves a spot...........


4 posted on 03/16/2010 12:21:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Red Badger

HELL YES!!!


5 posted on 03/16/2010 12:21:58 PM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Grunthor

Agreed.

Lots of GOOD rock acts are rejected just for being too popular. Metal and Prog-rock are all but ignored, as they aren’t respected by whiny critics.

Alice Cooper should have been in years ago, same for Ted Nugent.


6 posted on 03/16/2010 12:22:27 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
Roxy Music - Avalon

Two of the best rock a albums of all time. The hall of fame is a joke.


7 posted on 03/16/2010 12:24:25 PM PDT by slackerjack
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To: ConservativeStatement
Billion dollar baby
Rubber little lady
slicker than a weasel
Grimy as an alley
Loves me like no other lover

A man who can write lyrics like that needs to be in the RRHF!

8 posted on 03/16/2010 12:24:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ConservativeStatement

Probably the same reason you and I are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: insufficient talent, appeal, and a** kissing.


9 posted on 03/16/2010 12:25:11 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The RNR HOF is a joke.


10 posted on 03/16/2010 12:25:31 PM PDT by KevinB (The trouble with liberals isn’t that they're ignorant; it's that they know so much that isn't so.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I don't even like Kiss, but how could they not be in? They were cultural monsters and have been around for almost forty years!

Donovan and Dick Dale were also huge influences on the music.

11 posted on 03/16/2010 12:25:34 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I still can't understand how Rush gets left out of this every year. They've been together over 30 years, millions of albums sold, sell out arenas still to this day, and so on. Having said that, though, I'm not sure they should be in this especially with all of the non-rock groups and people who are in this!
12 posted on 03/16/2010 12:25:35 PM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: ConservativeStatement
Fans may love these artists but, let's face it, they don't stand a chance: Grand Funk, Styx, Journey, Foreigner, the Moody Blues, Bon Jovi, Iron Maiden, Jethro Tull, Chicago.

Why not? Jethro Tull is absolutely deserving, and why not the others? While Journey and Foreigner were a bit generic, they have their place - and Bon Jovi, by FAR the most popular of the "hair bands" (whether a true hair band is up for debate, I say no) should mean SOMETHING to those uppity jerks at the HOF.

13 posted on 03/16/2010 12:26:14 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: RockinRight

Ted’s too conservative, as is Alice.

Gotta be able to spice up the biographies of the honorees (or orneries) with how they (ZOT) their (ZOT) when they were at the (ZOT) in order to (ZOT).


14 posted on 03/16/2010 12:27:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: RockinRight

I didn’t know Chicago was not in. Based upon that, the R&R HOH is not a legitimate entity. Not my favorite Chicago tune, but 25 or 6 to 4 ALONE puts them in.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 12:28:22 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: ConservativeStatement; 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; ...

1. AFRIKA BAMBAATAA
2. THE B-52s
3. BEASTIE BOYS
4. THE CARS
5. CLARENCE CARTER
6. CHIC
7. JOE COCKER
8. ALICE COOPER
9. DICK DALE
10. DEEP PURPLE
11. DIRE STRAITS
12. DONOVAN
13. DR. JOHN
14. THE FACES
15. THE FLYING BURRITO BROTHERS
16. LESLEY GORE
17. JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS
18. JUDAS PRIEST
19. KING CRIMSON
20. KRAFTWERK
21. LOVE
22. MC5
23. THE METERS
24. MOTORHEAD
25. MOTT THE HOOPLE
26. NEW YORK DOLLS
27. LAURA NYRO
28. THE OHIO PLAYERS
29. THE POINTER SISTERS
30. PROCOL HARUM
31. PUBLIC ENEMY
32. LINDA RONSTADT
33. RUSH
34. LEON RUSSELL
35. THE SPINNERS
36. STEPPENWOLF
37. THE STYLISTICS
38. WAR
39. BARRY WHITE
40. WARREN ZEVON


Very 70s heavy list and very light on “rock and roll” as a pure art form (disco, soul, rap, yes but not rock and roll; hell the Black Eyed Fleas looped Dick Dale’s Miserlou, that right there ought to clinch his nomination...).

I expect most of these names to get in the hall before The Seeds, The Stray Cats, Johnny Burnette Trio (who influenced the Yardbirds and others), Link Wray, Sun Ra, The Fleshtones, Iron Maiden...


16 posted on 03/16/2010 12:28:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: ConservativeStatement

Pete Rose is never gettin’ in. No way.

OOps! Wrong thread. Nevermind.


17 posted on 03/16/2010 12:29:22 PM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: RockinRight
Deep Purple should be in also.
18 posted on 03/16/2010 12:30:24 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Alice Was AWESOME. Yeah she was repulsive when repulsive wasn’t cool. I caught her once at the Hollywood Sportatorium. The Amazing James Randi toured with her/it helping out with Special Fx like the Guillotine Trick. I think Alice defined pandemonium. But the music still holds together nicely. Some of it.


19 posted on 03/16/2010 12:30:40 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump won't prime 'cause the vandals took the handle. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Cheap Trick.


20 posted on 03/16/2010 12:31:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Screamin’ Jay Hawkins


21 posted on 03/16/2010 12:31:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: ConservativeStatement

I looked at the Top 40 rejects. There are some good ones that certainly should be ahead of “The Stooges”

1. Deep Purple - very influential band. And better than Black Sabbath, (already in)
2. Dire Straits - the last of great rock bands.
3. The Cars - even though I don’t like them, they started New Wave.

Missing from this list:
1. Little Feat
2. Ted Nugent


22 posted on 03/16/2010 12:31:59 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: ConservativeStatement
The editor of Rolling Stone Magazine, Jann Wenner essentially decides who gets into the R&R Hall of Frame. He's a giantic lefty and a real creep. Oh how I hate this man. He's one of the types from the 60's who politicized R&R and besides his taste is lousy. The fact that they are accepting the garbage rappers is testament to just what a lousy organization the R&R Hall of Fame is. Plus it was inevitable that there would be bubble acts that wouldn't get in and there would be big arguments just like there is in the MLB Hall of Fame and others. It's political with Wenner and he can keep people out who is dislikes unless it's a slam dunk. This is why Eric Clapton didn't like the R&R Hall of Fame even though he has been inducted 3 times, possibly a record. He decided it would be a big stink to fight the whole thing so he reluctantly gave in.
23 posted on 03/16/2010 12:32:49 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, Alice deserves a spot for sure. My very first concert ever...(13 years old) was watching Alice from a blanket on the floor of the Long Island arena - Dead Babies, School’s Out...he had the big snake on stage - he was incredible. Blue Oyster Cult and Fleetwood Mac opened the show for him.


24 posted on 03/16/2010 12:33:41 PM PDT by nagdt ("speak the truth but leave immediately afterward")
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To: ConservativeStatement

i love the rock hall but KISS should be honored. and I hate Jethro Tull.
Jimmy Clifts is not r&r to me anyways.


25 posted on 03/16/2010 12:33:47 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: aegiscg47

Because Jan Wenner hates them and he runs the Hall. The whole thing is Wenner’s baby, acts he likes are in, acts he doesn’t like but doesn’t hate get in eventually so he can pretend to be fair, acts he hates have to wait for him to die.


26 posted on 03/16/2010 12:34:56 PM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: kidd

And yet Grand Master Flash is in.


27 posted on 03/16/2010 12:35:30 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: Shyla

Hey, what about the Michael Stanley Band?


28 posted on 03/16/2010 12:36:35 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: OCCASparky
2112 is a classic. Probably their most classic. Its what made me take notice of Rush. Moving Pictures on, I lost interest.

Xanadu live is quintessential Neil Peart.

29 posted on 03/16/2010 12:36:51 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Screamin’ Jay Hawkins”
Did you know he had 67 children? Wonder when he had any time to perform.


30 posted on 03/16/2010 12:37:34 PM PDT by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: kidd

The Modern Lovers started new wave (out of a love of the Velvet Underground but not of heroin).

Members moved into other bands including the Cars.

Sex Pistols even covered “Road Runner”.

But the Stooges belong in the hall. Certainly more than the overhyped, White Panther loving MC5.

And neither Chic nor Abba belong in a “rock” hall, but that is my take.


31 posted on 03/16/2010 12:37:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: duckman
Did you know he had 67 children? Wonder when he had any time to perform.

After he got off the stage!

32 posted on 03/16/2010 12:38:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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>.Wonder when he had any time to perform.

In between gigs?


33 posted on 03/16/2010 12:39:25 PM PDT by swarthyguy (Join ACFANS - Alleged Conservatives For A Nanny State. www.acfans.com (Ha!)
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To: a fool in paradise
I won't speak for all of these names, but there is absolutely no reason that the following should not be in the Hall of Fame:

The Cars
Joe Cocker
Deep Purple
Dire Straits
Procul Harum
Rush
Steppenwolf
Warren Zevon

34 posted on 03/16/2010 12:39:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: discostu

Yep, rock “history” as written by Jan Wenner and Dick Clark is incredibly short sighted.

About as relevant as Little Steven lumping a lot of non-garge or even rock into his “Underground Garage” weekly playlist (Bruce Springsteen manages to get a play every week).


35 posted on 03/16/2010 12:40:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: wagglebee

I’d be happier with all of them on your list over many names that are in the hall.


36 posted on 03/16/2010 12:41:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: Leo Farnsworth
Pete Rose is never gettin’ in.

LOL

37 posted on 03/16/2010 12:41:29 PM PDT by Boss_Jim_Gettys (Tagline killed by Death Panel)
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To: a fool in paradise

Somehow I left Alice Cooper off the list.


38 posted on 03/16/2010 12:41:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kidd
Benjamin Orr (co-lead vocalist of the Cars) was a terrific vocalist. It was painful to see his demise when he was stricken with pancreatic cancer. As a band, they were reluctant to be in the spotlight even in the early-to-mid 80s. Among others on that list I think should be honored are Judas Priest and Rush
39 posted on 03/16/2010 12:41:50 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Johnny Rivers.....period...his absence makes the RRHOF irrelevant.


40 posted on 03/16/2010 12:42:00 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ConservativeStatement

Don’t pay attention to the R&RHOF but not including the following tells me they don’t know the good stuff from the fluff: JOE COCKER (best R&R singer of all time), ALICE COOPER (originator of shock rock), DEEP PURPLE (go go godzilla), DIRE STRAITS (I am stunned), DONOVAN (stunned again), THE FACES (stunned once more), MC5 (kick out the Jams MFers), MOTT THE HOOPLE (again stunned), PROCOL HARUM (cannot believe they aren’t in), LEON RUSSELL, STEPPENWOLF (huh, you have to be kidding, the original heavy metal band), WAR (w and w/o Eric Burden), WARREN ZEVON.

The real question is who is actually in the HOF?


41 posted on 03/16/2010 12:43:23 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: NCLaw441
Match that with Dire Straights. Sultans Of Swing is timeless.

I was at a stereo place one time. Just kicking tires on a pair of Klipsch Corner Horns. The guy put in Dire Straights' Money For Nothing. WOW what an intro. As it builds up and then the drums begin. The hair on my arms was standing up, and I felt like the guy in the old Memorex ad.

42 posted on 03/16/2010 12:43:42 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: kidd

If you like New Wave, here’s a pretty cool list of bands. Some you’ve forgotten about, and this site helps finding some good stuff on youtube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Wave_bands_and_artists


43 posted on 03/16/2010 12:44:51 PM PDT by Professional
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To: a fool in paradise

I was a little iffy on The Cars, I don’t really consider them rock so much as late new wave/80s pop, but they had an incredible impact on 80s music (some good, some crap).

I was actually shocked that Procol Harum and Steppenwolf weren’t already in, I would have assumed that they would have been inducted in the “second wave” (after major inductees like the Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, etc.).


44 posted on 03/16/2010 12:44:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: a fool in paradise

Bruce Sprinsteen. There’s someone that if they never played again, the quality of life in the US would dramatically improve.


45 posted on 03/16/2010 12:46:14 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: slackerjack
"Roxy Music - Avalon"

Did you know Brian Ferry was pretty right leaning? From his Wikipedia entry...

"In 2008, Ferry alluded to support for the Conservative Party, referring to himself as "conservative by nature," but essentially apolitical. Without elaborating, he stated he was "proud" of his right-wing son Otis and declared the ban on fox hunting "futile." He also alluded to an opposition to "left-wing bitterness" and the spectre of "political correctness," "

46 posted on 03/16/2010 12:46:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Screamin’ Jay Hawkins and Screamin’ Lord Sutch were there with shock rock theatrics before Alice Cooper but I’m ok with him in the Hall (Lord Sutch also had an open ear for musicians giving some like Nicky Hopkins and Noel Redding their start).


47 posted on 03/16/2010 12:47:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: slackerjack

DITTO on both!


48 posted on 03/16/2010 12:48:25 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: RockinRight

Journey. Steve Perry had some of the best vocals ever in R&R.


49 posted on 03/16/2010 12:48:36 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
"STEPPENWOLF (huh, you have to be kidding, the original heavy metal band)"

Heavy Metal Thunder indeed.

50 posted on 03/16/2010 12:48:59 PM PDT by Paladin2
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