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John Fenn on the Sid Roth Television program ^ | March 28, 2010 | self

Posted on 03/28/2010 2:33:34 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt

Well - I thought we could all use some good news.

Was up in the wee hours of the morning watching TCT.TV and this Sid Roth Program comes on (It's Supernatural).

The host interviewed a man named John Fenn.

John has done some unusual things.

You will need to watch the video at the link to learn more.

But the one thing that really made me smile was that John Fenn who was "caught up into heaven" like the Apostle Paul was:

2 Corinthians 12:2: 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, (B)God knows--such a man was caught up to the (D)third heaven.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Religion
KEYWORDS: animals; heaven; pets; wonderful
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Heaven will not
Heaven be
If my cats are not there
to welcome me.

Epitaph on an old tombstone
Author unknown


51 posted on 03/28/2010 4:19:43 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Dutchboy88

Sorry, I’m not about to limit God.

I haven’t made a trip to Heaven yet.

A number of folks who have come back with insights I haven’t had but yet which resonate with Holy Spirit within me.

I do not toss them out, out of hand.

Won’t mangle my theology either way.

It certainly sounds like something God’s love and kindness would engineer.

Part of me thinks that we’ll be more interested in fellowship with one another and the rest of the saints from the ages . . . however, I do believe that animals are in Heaven. It’s not a great leap to believe that some of those animals could be favorite pets.


52 posted on 03/28/2010 4:25:21 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Global2010; Quix; fish hawk; wmfights; Graybeard58
"I will not ping him. Not worth having him foam at the mouth when one does not agree with his ideas and then he goes on talking down to those who disagree as if he is so highly evovled.

God Blesses Manics too.

Your post your opinion.

I will not heed to any anti Catholic posts.

Period.

I'll keep him in the loop for you. And others that are concerned about the viciousness of Roman adherents.

And if "heeding" is responding, then you responded to this post and it is as rabidly anti-RCC as anything he has written. I will continue to point out that their man-centered theology is destructive to the soul and I will continue to call upon Rome to repent...if it can.

53 posted on 03/28/2010 4:31:19 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: pissant

Ya know one of the times KV was on life support/ICU (told it was the end, been told that three times, he still here/back) and he finally came around and got well he said he talked to the Lord and thought he was going home fer sure.

The Lord told him No the Pinapple Pizza and Red Wine wasnt ready for him yet. : )


54 posted on 03/28/2010 4:31:47 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I know this will be unpopular but I found no Scriptural evidence to believe we will see out pets in Heaven. I'm not judging Fluffy or Fido's eternal souls (if they have them) but I suspect it is pure emotionalism to believe we will meet our pets.

We are not commanded to proselytize or baptize our pets so it would seem that their eternal paths are different from ours.

Far be it for me to tell the Almighty what He can or cannot do but I believe expecting our pets to see us in Heaven is just human emotionalism and not support by His Word.

55 posted on 03/28/2010 4:33:25 PM PDT by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I can remember seeing kids over the years from 4-H cry there eyes out when there animal went up for auction and on to someones dinner table.

There maybe allot of Moos waiting for their human care providers. : )


56 posted on 03/28/2010 4:34:31 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: Quix

Points taken, but I respectfully disagree.


57 posted on 03/28/2010 4:40:34 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

THX THX.

WELL PUT.

It appears that few are able to make the distinction between fierce disagreement about heresy etc.

vs

hatred of persons or even of the whole organization.

One ends up concluding that some simply do NOT WANT to deal in the truth nor in fair-mindedness.


58 posted on 03/28/2010 4:49:46 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dutchboy88

No sweat.

God is bigger than all of us put together.

Thanks for your love of HIM.


59 posted on 03/28/2010 4:51:10 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BRL
If the animals all get to go to heaven then your apartment is going to have about 50 trillion cockroaches, not to mention the maggots and flies and frogs and rattle snakes.

Not to mention the lowest life form of all -- democrats.

60 posted on 03/28/2010 4:56:10 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I didn’t realize my favorite (passed via emails)story about the man and his dog was from the Twilight Zone. Always brings a tear to my eye.


61 posted on 03/28/2010 4:57:39 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Persevero
to obtain salvation for YOU.

And dogs.
62 posted on 03/28/2010 4:59:15 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: mlocher; BRL

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hello?

That implies that God has

LESS selectivity about animals in Heaven than He does humans.

DOH.

Sounds like silliness to the max, to me.


63 posted on 03/28/2010 5:02:21 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: savedbygrace

He strikes me that way, still.

He has a TV personna that’s . . . geared to the medium, a bit. However, that’s kind of the way to do it, I’d think.


64 posted on 03/28/2010 5:04:13 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Red in Blue PA

God has to be THE SUPREME priority or humans evidently won’t make it.

It would be super tragic for one’s pet to be there and one not to be.


65 posted on 03/28/2010 5:05:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

One may be better served by observing what scripture has to say about consulting mediums. We are prohibited from doing so. Such things are better left to fanciful Twilite Zone episodes than considered for addition to one’s faith.


66 posted on 03/28/2010 5:10:22 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Quix

Ditto, my FRiend.


67 posted on 03/28/2010 5:10:42 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Quix; BRL
Sounds like silliness to the max, to me.

Actually you are correct. The Biblical answer is that animals do not go to jail.

68 posted on 03/28/2010 5:15:17 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: pissant

I’m sure Heaven has awesome beer making equipment already!


69 posted on 03/28/2010 5:18:05 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: DugwayDuke
I would never put limits on God, would you?

Not at all - including the idea that one cannot be "happy" in heaven unless supplied what one preferred on earth. Neither would I limit God by presuming heaven is even for the purpose of our happiness as we understand it here. Seems to me that the passage stating no one has heard, seen or even imagined what awaits has the distinct possibility of exclusivity.

70 posted on 03/28/2010 5:21:09 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Quix
Ecclesiastes 3:19-21

For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

71 posted on 03/28/2010 5:31:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Red in Blue PA

“And dogs. “

At no time is salvation mentioned as being offered to anyone but people.

Not even angels get an offer of salvation.


72 posted on 03/28/2010 5:35:07 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Quix

I tend to agree with that.


73 posted on 03/28/2010 5:41:50 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: patriot08

That’s so funny! My pastor is going to likely not be very happy to discover cats are in heaven....


74 posted on 03/28/2010 5:41:54 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Persevero
Angels in rebellion weren't offered salvation, they were bound in the depths of Sheol and are still there. Angels not in rebellion are not in need of salvation.

The only Created beings in rebellion are human. Being the pinnacle of His Creation, we were and are offered salvation. The rest of His good Creation doesn't need it, never having rebelled. They suffer disease, aging, decay and death, right along with us, because of us, due to The Fall. All the world does.

A good resource regarding this matter comes from the 18th century. It's John Wesley's legendary sermon, The General Deliverance. It's very powerful, and runs the gamut of Biblical thought pertaining to the lesser Creatures. Give it a look, it's widely available on the internet.

75 posted on 03/28/2010 5:43:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: OrangeHoof

Okay. God bless you!


76 posted on 03/28/2010 5:44:21 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Global2010

LOL! OH my! Yes I imagine there were a lot of tears over those moo’s.


77 posted on 03/28/2010 5:45:36 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: 70times7

God bless you.

Would you call Paul a medium?


78 posted on 03/28/2010 5:54:13 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: savedbygrace

Hello - Glad you found this thread!! God bless!


79 posted on 03/28/2010 5:58:41 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Dutchboy88; Quix

I agree with both of you. I’m not “anti” anybody, just anti false teachings.

I tend to keep it to myself and then have guilt feelings for not trying to show the error of their ways.

I pray, my brother and sister.

I pray for the atheists too, many of them who are just too smart for the simple message of the gospel.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. It doesn’t get any easier than that.


80 posted on 03/28/2010 6:03:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Thank you, as always, for your thoughtful words. I am an animal lover & that would be my fondest wish— to see my dear departed babies once again.

I wish the people who are not being kind in their posts could just not comment on such a lovely post. Thanks for making my night!

You are classy & take the high road. Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!


81 posted on 03/28/2010 6:11:27 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

God bless you too.

I would call him rare.


82 posted on 03/28/2010 6:12:20 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Well know what dog spelled backwards is!


83 posted on 03/28/2010 6:14:24 PM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rintense

Yes I do!


84 posted on 03/28/2010 6:18:46 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Persevero

Then count me out.


85 posted on 03/28/2010 6:22:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: rintense

ruff ruff

All 3 canines here have been lulled to sleep as the Singing of the Lords Passion is sung from the Solemn Mass of Palm Sunday with Pope Benedict XVI

So peace filled.
Hope that feeling in my heart is not a muscle spasm.


86 posted on 03/28/2010 6:23:20 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

My immediate thought was that there will be no animals in heaven because my wife has extreme allergic reactions to animal dander.

It didn’t take long for me to realize that she won’t be taking her allergies to Heaven with her!

As for the debate whether animals will be in Heaven, I’m not afraid to say, I don’t know.


87 posted on 03/28/2010 6:24:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Wasn’t the twist to that TZ episode that hell turned out to be beyond those gates where dogs were not allowed, and the man and the dog went on to the real heaven together?


88 posted on 03/28/2010 6:27:29 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Remembering that Twilight Zone where the old codger dies while coon hunting with his dog. Almost falls for Old Nick talking him into supposed “heaven” which doesn’t allow dogs. The old codger takes a pass, and moves on up the road to the real Heaven, where dogs are welcome.


89 posted on 03/28/2010 6:38:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Giant Gila Monster)
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To: 70times7
One may be better served by observing what scripture has to say about consulting mediums.

Sure didn't work out well for Saul did it?

90 posted on 03/28/2010 6:42:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Ha! Yes there will be no sickness in heaven - none at all! So that allergies thing won’t matter - Praise the Lord!

Well, no, we don’t KNOW know. Because Scripture does not really comment on this specific issue of “pets in heaven”.

With the description of horses being ridden upon by the Lord Jesus when He returns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and also by all His Saints who will be returning with him FROM HEAVEN at that great and glorious time - I believe that is a big “clue” that animals will indeed be in heaven.

But we don’t know specifically about pets.

the person mentioned in this article heading John Fenn - well he had an experience like Paul did in the scripture passage I mentioned....Paul said he saw things that he could not discuss....but do we think Paul is a liar? deluded? mentally ill? on drugs? crazy?

I don’t think so.

Yet Paul tells us he went up to heaven on a “temporary visit” from which he returned and mentioned IN GOD’s WORD which is totally true!

I really have no doubt that John Fenn had a similar experience. Everything he reported about his trip to heaven matches up with an experience that Dr. Eberle had years ago which he wrote about - I think it was called Caught up to Heaven - but not sure.

He fell off a balcony and hit his head on concrete which split open his skull. He was clinically dead. And he described similar scenes as John Fenn describes, the grass and flowers and trees just perfect, and gloriously beautiful, and all exuding this beautiful melody! Yes - singing!!!

Dr. Eberle (he was a physician) reported the same things.

(He also had an experience where he went down into hell - and saw the reality of hell as well - but that was another book).

I just do not recall reading about beloved pets in heaven before.

I think it is a message of loving kindness from our Gracious Lord to all His Beloveds who have such animals——and I have no doubt these loved animals will be in heaven with all who belong to Jesus!

Amen!


91 posted on 03/28/2010 6:49:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: mlocher; Dutchboy88

Thx for your kind replies.


92 posted on 03/28/2010 6:53:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Quite so.

THx.


93 posted on 03/28/2010 6:54:02 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: savedbygrace

Thanks for your kind reply.


94 posted on 03/28/2010 6:54:50 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Graybeard58

Amen.

Thx for your kind reply.


95 posted on 03/28/2010 6:55:59 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Romans 8:19-21

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God….21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God

Creature - the word "creature" is translated from the original Greek word KTISIS, meaning ‘all creation’, the complete product of God’s creative acts – everything that God has made.

96 posted on 03/28/2010 7:00:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Persevero; CatDancer

“Not even angels get an offer of salvation.”

And I see no one arguing that angels will not be in heaven.

I believe there will be many aspects of God’s creation that do not require salvation but will be in heaven...


97 posted on 03/28/2010 7:05:56 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Graybeard58
Or for Israel while under his leadership. Consulting mediums opens one up to Satanic influence. "I would never consult an Ouija board! ...but I'll be glad to listen to someone on Oprah telling me I get to spend eternity with dear fluffy."

If your focus regarding eternity is on the loved ones and pets you want to see again you are looking entirely in the wrong direction.

My gratitude - and that seems SO trite a word given what He did - to Jesus Christ regarding my daughter is for His death on the cross that enabled her to be with Him in unimaginable paradise. Her body is perfect now - the pain and disabilities are all gone. He loves her perfectly and she is basking in that and worshiping and loving Him. One day I will experience the same. Even if I never spend another moment with her I am OK with that because WHATEVER eternity holds, as long as the Lord our God has built it for us it is simply not possible that it could disappoint in any way what so ever.

98 posted on 03/28/2010 7:08:22 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Yeah This was on the magical mystery christian tour of sid roth - this guy has weird shows.


99 posted on 03/28/2010 7:15:47 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: mlocher
The Biblical answer is that animals do not go to jail.

What about passing GO or collecting $200? I'm starting to think I'll go with the shoe or the battleship instead of the Scottie dog next time.

100 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:57 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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