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Why Apple is Kicking Everyone’s Ass – The Real Cost of Software Development is Usability
The Naked Entrepreneurs ^ | 04/08/2010 | Chris the Brain

Posted on 04/11/2010 2:38:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker

What does Apple get that Sony, HP, Microsoft, Dell, Samsung, and LG don’t?…. Usability in software. All these other geeks out there making hardware love packing on “specs”, stuffing big numbers like RAM, gigahertz, and hard drive space into small or cool looking gadgets. It all looks good on paper, but after you use one of their gadgets for more than a few weeks, you just want to throw it out a window. Thousands of new gadgets released every year all using the same-old crappy unfriendly, unintuitive, unattractive software. It’s no wonder so many are flocking to Apple when we can just pickup one of their simplistic products, start taping and swiping our fingers, and lo and behold… it just does what we want it to do. Of course, it isn’t easy, or cheap, to make software this user friendly, which is why everyone is having such a hard time keeping up.

As a software developer, I hear the phrase “I just want it to…”. Which, as any experienced software developer knows, is the most expensive phrase we ever hear. People have software needs all the time, which may require vast complicated effort to achieve, but they want it to hide all that complication behind a simple and user-friendly interface. What most people don’t know is that making software do just about anything doesn’t cost nearly as much as making it easy and intuitive for them to use. This lack of cost awareness is what ruins so many “brilliant” product ideas.

Sony is, in my opinion, the worst offender. In the past decade, I have seen Sony release cutting-edge gadgets to the market before anyone else. The PSP was an amazing gadget when it came out, in theory. It played music, videos, viewed photos, surfed the web, and of course, played games. The problem was that, excluding the last feature, it didn’t do any of them well. In fact, all the claimed features were so hard to use that almost no one could figure it out. Then, even more idiotically, Sony received reports that users were not using the extra features and stopped improving them! Sony could have been the what the iPod Touch is today, but lost the chance with bad software.

But I don’t just write this to rant, I write this as a warning to other business owners and entrepreneurs out there. Developing software and technology is one thing, but making it user friendly is another. In fact, usability can consume up to 80% of a project’s time and resources. That is, if your actually going to make something people will want to use. You have to build it, review it, fix it, test it, fix it, beta release, fix it, get feedback, fix it, get more feedback, fix it… and maybe… just maybe… people will be able to actually use it.

This is why the only mobile platform even close to keeping up with Apple is Google’s Android. Google is the only one in the fight with the know-how and resources to keep up. Even RIM, makers if the Blackberry, can’t keep their mobile software up to par, they have to invest in starting from scratch or spending huge resources in fixing what they have.

If you or your company has a “great idea” for an application or gadget, just remember, once you price the development… multiply it a couple times for usability.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
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1 posted on 04/11/2010 2:38:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
What does Apple get that other companies don't? Why is Apple kicking butt? PING!


Apple kicks butt, but WHY? Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 04/11/2010 2:40:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
Angry face
3 posted on 04/11/2010 2:44:34 AM PDT by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Swordmaker

Well, I did note that the Pink Phone event by Microsoft this week just highlighted the PUG UGLY design that MSFT chose was cringe worthy.

Microsoft is bucks up. Why can’t they hire an industrial designer? Unless they are committed to pug-ugliness.


4 posted on 04/11/2010 2:46:38 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple is like Obama. It has a bunch of highly loyal fans who are blinded to reality. Loyalty to Obama or Apple requires a hge dose of cognitive dissonance.


5 posted on 04/11/2010 2:58:02 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Swordmaker

I loaded OSX on a generic PC and was very unimpressed by its clunky, boxy, Linux like look. With red,green, yellow stoplight buttons on the windows? lol/ Windows 7 is a lot prettier. I used it for an hour then realized, that for all the Apple propaganda on Free Republic, “There is no there, there”

Maybe the iphone is way ahead of the pack but the latest grooviest OSX is a big yawn for this Windows7 user and early adopter (Betas)


6 posted on 04/11/2010 3:06:09 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Jeff Gordon
That's absolute crap.

As a former Windows user I can honestly say that my MacBook Pro and iPhone 3GS are the two of the best investments I've ever made.

Apple delivers.

The only things that Obama provides is sh*tty legislation and contempt for our allies.

7 posted on 04/11/2010 3:10:40 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

Roger that!!


8 posted on 04/11/2010 3:17:13 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple’s only marketing ploy seems to be insulting Microsoft. Not that they can stand on their own, or solve business problems. Just that they aren’t microsoft.

But if you want to talk phones lets talk the droid which is kicking everyones butt.


9 posted on 04/11/2010 3:17:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

Why PC vs Mac?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpS9m2VF1c&feature=related


10 posted on 04/11/2010 3:22:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

You need to work on your trolling skills.


11 posted on 04/11/2010 3:25:42 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Anti-Utopian
I think it's time to debunk this iPad to watermelon/rock comparison.

Widescreen... The iPad plays widescreen movies fine...

Multitasking... The iPad, like the iPhone, multitasks native Apps fine, currently multitask some third party apps such as Yahoo Messenger's notification and MDN notification just fine, and with the release of iPhone OS4 this fall, will multitask many other third party apps just fine.

Flash Support... It will not support Flash, and probably never will, because Flash is a 32 bit application and iPad and iPhone are 64 bit Operating Systems... and Flash is a resource hog that eats CPU cycles.

Camera/Webcam... With a 99¢ app, available now, the iPad will allow an iPhone 3Gs camera to be controlled and shoot pictures for the iPad and display them on the iPad... in real time. Other apps are on the way that will do the same thing with ANY bluetooth capable camera.

phone/video call... The WIFI capable iPads work just fine with the iPhone version of SKYPE... and will make phone calls to any phone in the world using the built in microphone and speakers.... or to a Bluetooth headset.

Removable battery... First of all, the battery in the iPad is dangerous to handle, secondly, the addition of a battery access port would add weight and complexity and cost to the iPad, and thirdly who needs a replacement battery when the iPad has a measured 11.8 hour life between charges, and a 30 day standby time?

Memory Card Slot... The iPad was designed to be a Cloud based computing device with storage on the cloud. Which memory card of the 14 current standards would Apple have decided to include? Someone would have been excluded no matter which Apple chose. Most people have no need for one, why make them pay the cost for something they will have no need for?

USB Port... The iPad has a USB port as part of the charging access port on the unit... and a accessory USB port is available for purchase for those who feel compelled to have one. However, the purpose of a USB card is rapidly being replaced by Bluetooth enabled devices. For example, Bluetooth printers are becoming standard.

HDMI or VGA... Again, for the vast majority of iPad users, this is totally unnecessary, so why force users to pay for something they would never use. An accessory port with a video out port is available for those small percentage of users who feel the need for a small price.

TV or FM Receiver... Apps are available for both of these to receive streaming music and TV feeds over the internet. Why have heavy hardware add ons to do something that can be done in software?

CD/DVD or Bluray... These are now antique standards... If you want a movie ... download it from the cloud or from your computer. If you have it already on a DVD, use one of the available utilities to rip it to a file and import it to your iPad.

OS X... iPhoneOS is a subset of OSX. However, apps are available that allow an iPad user to access both an OS X Mac or a Windows computer over the internet and fully use either of those computers.

Text Editor... Pages is a full fledged word processor app, with the full ability to create content in either Rich Text Format, text ASCII, or in Microsoft Word format.

Except for FLASH, the iPad has capability for all these things and the watermelon/rock has none of them.

So, so much for the smarmy iPad to Watermelon/rock comparisons... they are so much ignorance about the actual capabilities of the iPad... written by people who have not bothered to do even a smidgen of research.

12 posted on 04/11/2010 3:27:09 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Terpfen

Yeah, true but thats because I’m not a troll. Just a person who doesn’t believe the hype. Put down the cool aid.


13 posted on 04/11/2010 3:27:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dennisw
Maybe the iphone is way ahead of the pack but the latest grooviest OSX is a big yawn for this Windows7 user and early adopter (Betas)

Dennis, you would say that about Jesus Christ if he were born of Apple...

14 posted on 04/11/2010 3:29:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

There’s PLENTY of research by knowledgeable people who consider the ipad very short of functionality.


15 posted on 04/11/2010 3:29:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ve never owned an Apple device, save an Nano, which is eh, OK.

I buy PC’s like candy bars. They are disposable tools.

Apple buyers remind me of the trade carpenter that shows up with only German power tools that he is too afraid to use, get wet, lend out. He’s usually the guy that has to take twenty minutes to rip a sheet of plywood.


16 posted on 04/11/2010 3:33:26 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver
Why PC vs Mac?

Your You Tube Link

Lame.

You might want to do a little research on the relative incomes of Mac owners compared to PC owners. You might be shocked... Mac's wad of cash would be larger than PCs in the YouTube video... :^)>

17 posted on 04/11/2010 3:34:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Cyropaedia

I think one of the reasons lefties like Apple is that it hasn’t paid anyone back in ten years. Not one single dividend. Lefties love great, interesting, leg tingling people that borrow money and don’t pay back.


18 posted on 04/11/2010 3:36:29 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver; dennisw
But if you want to talk phones lets talk the droid which is kicking everyones butt.

Is that why NetApplications latest report shows that iPhone/iPod touch has .614% of all net traffic and 66.61% of all mobile net traffic, while the Android OS has a whopping .07% of all net traffic, and 6.15% of mobile net traffice, behind Windows Mobile? That's really kicking butt... Not.


NetApplications: Mobile Web Share by OS—as of March 2, 2010

Actually, this chart looks like an old video game with the IPhone EATING every one else up PacMan...... doit doit doit doit.

19 posted on 04/11/2010 3:44:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver
There’s PLENTY of research by knowledgeable people who consider the ipad very short of functionality.

There's plenty of research by people who consider the ipad very short of functionality who have NEVER TOUCHED an iPad... just like the people who produced the iPad is to Rock and Watermelon charts. Ignorant. Many of these same people were saying the exact same things about the shortcomings of the iPhone two years ago... and were predicting it would never amount to anything and would be a flop. It's FUD, driftdiver.

20 posted on 04/11/2010 3:50:01 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

“There’s plenty of research by people who consider the ipad very short of functionality who have NEVER TOUCHED an iPad”

Sure, there are plenty who look at the specs and say “Wheres the beef?”

And the are plenty who have bought one, held one, tested one and find it lacking functionality and capabilities and consider it a high price geek toy.


21 posted on 04/11/2010 3:52:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

“You might want to do a little research on the relative incomes of Mac owners compared to PC owners”

Yes because macs cost so much more. Doesn’t change that business uses PC and individuals use mac.

Market share goes to PC, available software goes to PC, interoperability goes to PC, cost goes to PC.

Pretty and stylish goes to Mac.


22 posted on 04/11/2010 3:55:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Leisler
I think one of the reasons lefties like Apple is that it hasn’t paid anyone back in ten years. Not one single dividend. Lefties love great, interesting, leg tingling people that borrow money and don’t pay back.

Excuse me? Borrow money?

Do you have the slightest idea what you are driveling about? Apple has no debt, no borrowed money at all. People BOUGHT STOCK. I have a buddy who bought stock at $14... he is very happy... his stock he bought at $14 a share is now worth almost $1000 a share... two splits and he now each of his shares is FOUR... at $242 each... that's $968... for a $14 investment. And he owns several thousand shares. He is not demanding ANYTHING. Apple has made him a millionaire.

23 posted on 04/11/2010 3:55:51 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Leisler
More nonsense.

I do far more with my MacBook than I ever did with any of my PC's.

I even convinced my sister, who has her own consulting business, to switch from Windows to a MacBook Pro. And she couldn't be happier.

People like Macs because they believe that a computer is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

24 posted on 04/11/2010 3:59:49 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Swordmaker

Well if you’re comparing market share you might actually want to look at SALES not some obscure traffic snapshot.

The iphone has been out a while. The droid was just released and is beating everyone.

Of course part of that is the weak network that AT&T has. You’ve heard the comparison, what do the iPad and iPhone have in common? You can’t make a call on either one.


25 posted on 04/11/2010 4:01:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Leisler

Kinda of a strange thing to say. I doubt people care about who Apple pays or doesn’t pay when purchasing items. I have an Apple Shuffle for running. Everyone who runs has one and it has nothing to do with politics. Do you run or are you a fat ass?


26 posted on 04/11/2010 4:04:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Swordmaker
1. 4:3 is not widescreen

2. That isn't multitasking, it's apptasking, and it blows.

3. Riiiiiiight, unlike "super efficient" Quicktime. LOL

4. So I need 99 cent app.... plus a $300+ iPhone and monthly contract with AT&T to do what a basic laptop can do. FAIL

5. No video means no video. WiFi? Add another $130 to the already outrageous price.

6. It's called a battery-swap, and people who do more than listen to MP3s don't do "charge time."

7. Adapters for USB? Sold seperately! $$$$$

8. Exactly. As for the vast majority of computer users, we use video ports regularly.

9. "a resource hog that eats CPU cycles" suddenly becomes a feature when hardware is shamefully lacking.

10. Blue-Ray is antiquated. Now I've read everything.

11. NOT OSX is NOT OSX

12. On sale now!!! $$$$$$

27 posted on 04/11/2010 4:04:20 AM PDT by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: driftdiver

Just for kicks the media should be comparing a decades old Amiga to any Apple PC and see which is more innovative, capable, valuable...and fun. Too bad the Amiga didn't get the free marketing boost that Apple has been getting for decades because it offered a better alternative to IBM clones than Apple ever did IMO.


28 posted on 04/11/2010 4:04:30 AM PDT by red flanker
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To: red flanker

Heck I don’t care if people want to buy a Mac. I just object to all the hype and kool aid drinkers.


29 posted on 04/11/2010 4:11:48 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Leisler
Apple buyers remind me of the trade carpenter that shows up with only German power tools that he is too afraid to use, get wet, lend out. He’s usually the guy that has to take twenty minutes to rip a sheet of plywood.

Are you aware that in almost every comparison of the Total Cost of Ownership between PCs and Macs, that the Macs turn out to be less expensive to own???? In big organizations, the differential, is staggering... sometimes as much as a thousand dollars per year per machine LESS for the Macs... and that's including the initial purchase price.

Most of you remind me of the people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Quite frankly, I value my time much higher... and it is too valuable to spend futzing around with the things Windows requires just to keep it running reasonably well. And I speak as a person who makes his living keeping Windows machines running reasonably well.

Everyone customer of mine that I persuade to switch to a Mac ceases to pay me as much money as they did when they were a Windows user. They simply no longer have the problems any more once they have a Mac. That is a fact. And everyone of them has said "Why didn't I listen and switch sooner." The other thing they say, spontaneously, is "I will NEVER go back!" and, after a short learning curve, "I am having fun with my computer again!" or "I never realized a computer could be so easy!"

However, THEY do recommend me to the PC using friends as an honest person who will fix their PCs when they get infected with problems... and I will tell those friends also to get a Mac the next time and these problems will go away... just ask the guy who recommended me...

Some of these were Dyed-in-the-Wool anti-Mac people from way back... who had been told some of the same canards you see on these threads.

30 posted on 04/11/2010 4:12:07 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

“Are you aware that in almost every comparison of the Total Cost of Ownership between PCs and Macs, that the Macs turn out to be less expensive to own?”

Sure the ones put out by apple.


31 posted on 04/11/2010 4:14:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Applers reminds me of Mercedes owners, when the world is run on Fords, Kia’s, and VW’s.

A tool is a tool. The thought of one’s ‘happiness’ being connected to an inanimate object?

I won’t even go there philosophically.


32 posted on 04/11/2010 4:15:11 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Swordmaker

Speaking of who doesn’t know anything, are you familiar with the time value of money? You know, interest, vig, dividends?

I still say lefties are cheap. I bar tend and dread a party of lefties. Lefties donate less than others. A lot of lefties depend on ‘industries’ that derived money from forced tax collection, tax breaks and or subsides.


33 posted on 04/11/2010 4:20:49 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Swordmaker
Feel free to buy Apple.

But know their boycott of advertising on Fox News means they hate Conservatives with every shred of their existence.

34 posted on 04/11/2010 4:20:59 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: driftdiver
Sure, there are plenty who look at the specs and say “Wheres the beef?”

Specs are not the be-all-and-end-all of tech... user experience is.

If it has something in the specs but the user can't find it to use, it's no good.

That's what this article is about... and it's why Apple IS kicking everyone else's respective hiney's ...

They know what to take out...

They know what to make as an add on for the minority who needs it and not to foist it on everyone, just because the minority MIGHT want it.

And they know how to make the features they leave in DROP DEAD EASY TO USE.

My last phone I had before my iPhone, a Motorola, had a speaker phone capability. During to TWO years I had that damn phone, I was able to use the speaker phone capability just twice... because I could NEVER find it when I needed it... the two times I did use it, the icon for it just suddenly appeared on the screen over the button... and there it was.

But other times, in the same circumstances, it was NEVER THERE. I went looking for it... and could never find it. I am not a stupid person. I am a tech savvy person. I sat there one afternoon with the thick manual for that phone in my hand and COULD NOT FIND IT. I went to AT&T and THEY COULD NOT FIND IT.

That phone had conference call features... every single time I attempted to use it, it disconnected the first call. Without fail. I had the AT&T people try it. Did the same damn thing for them. It was in the SPECS... but it did not work. Looked good on paper. But as a user interface it sucked big time. I HATED THAT PHONE... and i hated every previous phone I had beyond the first cell phone I had that simply made phone calls.

35 posted on 04/11/2010 4:24:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver
Yes because macs cost so much more. Doesn’t change that business uses PC and individuals use mac.

Strange... I have businesses who use Macs that are clients. They MUCH prefer it. Had PCs and they will NEVER go back. Cost them too much in lost productivity and down time. Just this last week an optometrist was asking me how much it would cost him to dump his PCs and switch to Macs after losing a week for one of his office girls because her computer got infected. Seems her anti-virus ware (not the one I installed for them last year, one somebody else decided to put on) got switched off...

36 posted on 04/11/2010 4:27:46 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

My first computer was a Franklin running cpm. I’ve never once had a ‘problem’ that wasn’t explained in a owners manual.

Now, who do you hand hold? Ever hear of confirmation bias? Seriously now in this day and age.....well, you might have a point in that I know plenty of people that can’t jack a car and put a tire on, hang a door, read a compass, break down and clean a .45, make a martini, clear a paper jam, use a volt meter, bake a loaf of nice crispy crust white bread....


37 posted on 04/11/2010 4:28:36 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver
Market share goes to PC, available software goes to PC, interoperability goes to PC, cost goes to PC.

Uh, no... Macs can run more software than PCs can, since Macs can run 100% of all Windows software but not vice verse. And in almost every TCO comparison done by independent agencies, Macs come out ahead...

38 posted on 04/11/2010 4:29:54 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Leisler
A tool is a tool. The thought of one’s ‘happiness’ being connected to an inanimate object?

Did I say that I wanted a computer to be a means to an end rather than an end in itself? Yes I did. You still can't read. Look at all those PC guys forever tinkering with their computers.

And when one "object" provides you with a lot less hassles than another (inanimate) "object", then, yes, that automatically translates into a lot more "happiness" or satisfaction.

39 posted on 04/11/2010 4:31:01 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: driftdiver
Of course part of that is the weak network that AT&T has. You’ve heard the comparison, what do the iPad and iPhone have in common? You can’t make a call on either one.

Another lie... I've been all around this country with my iPhone... and there are very few places where I have been unable to make a phone call or not had an internet connection. There has either been an adequate 3G connection or EDGE had been available. Two years ago, I traveled from Southern Indiana across to Southern California... I had no signal for a total of only five minutes during that entire trip.

Go peddle your tripe to someone who doesn't have an iPhone... and hasn't had almost three years of experience with it.

40 posted on 04/11/2010 4:33:31 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
"....got switched off.."

Well, there you go, that certainly is the fault of the machine/software.

By the way, considering the ( less now ) price premium on Apple, shouldn't you compare machine's of equal value, such like Sony, or HP PC's, vs the complaints form say low end corporate Dell's or off brand machines. ( Although I bought some e-Machines for a bar for the patrons to destroy and they've worked fine for the usual email, facebook....stuff. They were, the dirt cheapest box I could find, under two hundred dollars. ) Now would you supply a new Apple box for that physical/use application? No you could not.

41 posted on 04/11/2010 4:34:32 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Swordmaker

Yes and I had a AT&T phone for several years. Their network hasn’t gotten any better.

So your charges of a lie are false. You are the one who is telling falshoods.

“Two years ago, I traveled from Southern Indiana across to Southern California... I had no signal for a total of only five minutes during that entire trip. “

yeah I know you keep talking about it. A complete falsehood because AT&Ts network is not that good. Plus unless you were watching your phone continuously you would have no idea if it was 5 mins or 5 hours.


42 posted on 04/11/2010 4:39:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

blah blah blah swordmaker. hype is hype


43 posted on 04/11/2010 4:40:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

“Macs can run more software than PCs can,”

Simply not true


44 posted on 04/11/2010 4:42:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cyropaedia

That’s why I asked a question, you know, with the question mark finishing off the sentence. Other wise I would of made a declarative sentence.

God forbid having a nation of people tinkering with their computers, or customizing cars, or adding rooms to their houses, or boat building.... Why who knows were such curious behavior would lead too? eh? Much better is the German like/elite like Apple sensation of ‘don’t you dare open the box you low, base prole! This, is a work de arte!’


45 posted on 04/11/2010 4:42:38 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: napscoordinator

I’m a weight guy. Still roofing, occasionally, a house at 53, ex SF, bar tend in a real old, stabbing biker bar, and just bought a 35 wood ketch to rebuild in my spare time. Males that run, or ride bicycles for that matter, are a little to....wispy.... for my cultural biases. Although I do have a VW station wagon, which I get ribbed on, but a tool is a tool.


46 posted on 04/11/2010 4:49:35 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver

I have been following, for stock reasons the latest HCT/Apple grudge match. It seems that the then match made in heaven between ATT and Apple is devolving. Back then Apple had the machine, and ATT the network, which was pretty cool and could command a price premium. However AT&T’s network is antiquated, lower band width, to Sprint. Sooooo, when the picture/voice new HCT ( that Apple is trying to suppress in court ) comes out this summer, only Sprint’s will be able to carry the traffic.

Which should cause a lot of Apple ‘must-have-latest’ fan base to cringe to be in their favorite Starbucks and be dissed by lowly ....( GOD HELP US ) Sprint owners.

With all the pressure of all these now common phones, eating at the margins of supposedly profitible Apple’s I-Phone buisness. What happens now, vis a vis AT&T? Is Apple going to force them to redue their network? Or does AT&T have exhaulted Lord Jobs over a contractual barrel?

Just thinking, outside the box( is that allowed ) Apple is profitable, right? Cause Cult Jobs, even though he never pays out cash, has cash, right, right, Bueller, anyone? You know, like Apple might be the AIG of the computer world. We’ll see what happens to Apple shares the day Job dies and the corporate curtains come down.


47 posted on 04/11/2010 5:03:47 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Anti-Utopian
1. 4:3 is not widescreen

The controls for the display are below the widescreen presentation... and a 16:9 wide screen on a handheld device is not suitable for other purposes like e-reading, surfing the web, photographs, or other purposes. Best choice was to letter-box widescreen movies, and put controls below. Engineer and esthetic choice. Or would you really prefer a door shaped screen in vertical mode?

2. That isn't multitasking, it's apptasking, and it blows.

And you have used an iPhone or iPad and know that it blows WHEN? I use an iPhone 3Gs daily, and I can tell you that you would not know that it was not multitasking... because it IS. Ergo, you don't know what you are talking about... the iPhone has multitasked the native apps from day one. . . and some of the 3rd party apps DO multitask if they follow the guidelines Apple has established and permitted.

3. Riiiiiiight, unlike "super efficient" Quicktime. LOL

Quicktime in H264 is super efficient... again, you haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about. H264 is the most efficient way to stream HD content yet devised.

4. So I need 99 cent app.... plus a $300+ iPhone and monthly contract with AT&T to do what a basic laptop can do. FAIL

No, not fail. Again, more ignorance. Nor do you need a monthly contract. This is NOT a laptop. It is another device entirely. So don't compare it to a laptop. Any bluetooth camera will do... and the iPhone is only $199... and if you have one already... so much the better. And the camera and iPhone minus phone funtions still work without the contract... so that is not required either.

5. No video means no video. WiFi? Add another $130 to the already outrageous price.

Again, you display more ignorance. The basic iPad is WIFI. And is fully video capable... or do you truly believe that I wasn't watching streaming videos on the one that I was holding in my hands Thursday????? The 3G model is $130 more.

6. It's called a battery-swap, and people who do more than listen to MP3s don't do "charge time."

What are you blithering about? Do you know how much weight you are talking about to make the battery swappable??? You REALLY don't know what you are talking about... do you? Walt Mossberg really stressed his iPad watching movies, surfing the internet, downloading, doing almost everything watching streaming videos...he threw everything at it and timed the battery,... and it died at 11 hours and 40 minutes in the middle of watching an episode of a network TV program... I forget which one. So don't give me lies about mp3 listening.

7. Adapters for USB? Sold seperately! $$$$$

IF SOMEONE NEEDS a USB adaptor, they can buy it. So what. Most people don't need it. Why add the weight, thickness of case, and cost for them?

8. Exactly. As for the vast majority of computer users, we use video ports regularly.

Video ports... most users DO NOT USE VIDEO PORTS ON LAPTOPS... so that is just more BS. I'm a heavy computer user... and I can think of the times I used the video port on my laptop in the last two years... never. And again, weight, thickness of case, and cost?

10. Blue-Ray is antiquated. Now I've read everything.

It is. Why carry around a disk when the same content can be downloaded from the cloud? It was becoming antiquated when it was being introduced. HI DEF content is available from Netflicks and iTunes... and why weight down the iPad with an optical reader that breaks. This device has NO MOVING PARTS... why add one??? WHY ADD A DUST ACCESS PORT??? Weight, thickness of case, and cost? Show me a netbook with a blu-ray drive... Hell, show me a netbook with a cd/dvd drive.

11. NOT OSX is NOT OSX

Do you understand that iPhoneOS is OS X???? It is a mobile maximized version of OS X...

Thanks for sharing your ignorance.

48 posted on 04/11/2010 5:05:42 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver

driftdiver wrote: “blah blah blah swordmaker. hype is hype”

True words, sir. And you deploy a more than seemly array thereof yourself.


49 posted on 04/11/2010 5:05:43 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: driftdiver
Heck I don’t care if people want to buy a Mac. I just object to all the hype and kool aid drinkers.

Because you don't believe it... because you have not used a Mac. Really used one. You have not experienced both worlds. We have. Mac users have come out of the Windows world. Something like 80% of Mac users were Windows users now... and, frankly, we have a better knowledge base to make the comparison of what is hype and what is not. We are not the kool aid drinkers. We were... but not any more. We poured it out when we went Mac and are not going back.

50 posted on 04/11/2010 5:09:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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