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Why Apple is Kicking Everyone’s Ass – The Real Cost of Software Development is Usability
The Naked Entrepreneurs ^ | 04/08/2010 | Chris the Brain

Posted on 04/11/2010 2:38:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
"....got switched off.."

Well, there you go, that certainly is the fault of the machine/software.

By the way, considering the ( less now ) price premium on Apple, shouldn't you compare machine's of equal value, such like Sony, or HP PC's, vs the complaints form say low end corporate Dell's or off brand machines. ( Although I bought some e-Machines for a bar for the patrons to destroy and they've worked fine for the usual email, facebook....stuff. They were, the dirt cheapest box I could find, under two hundred dollars. ) Now would you supply a new Apple box for that physical/use application? No you could not.

41 posted on 04/11/2010 4:34:32 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Swordmaker

Yes and I had a AT&T phone for several years. Their network hasn’t gotten any better.

So your charges of a lie are false. You are the one who is telling falshoods.

“Two years ago, I traveled from Southern Indiana across to Southern California... I had no signal for a total of only five minutes during that entire trip. “

yeah I know you keep talking about it. A complete falsehood because AT&Ts network is not that good. Plus unless you were watching your phone continuously you would have no idea if it was 5 mins or 5 hours.


42 posted on 04/11/2010 4:39:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

blah blah blah swordmaker. hype is hype


43 posted on 04/11/2010 4:40:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

“Macs can run more software than PCs can,”

Simply not true


44 posted on 04/11/2010 4:42:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cyropaedia

That’s why I asked a question, you know, with the question mark finishing off the sentence. Other wise I would of made a declarative sentence.

God forbid having a nation of people tinkering with their computers, or customizing cars, or adding rooms to their houses, or boat building.... Why who knows were such curious behavior would lead too? eh? Much better is the German like/elite like Apple sensation of ‘don’t you dare open the box you low, base prole! This, is a work de arte!’


45 posted on 04/11/2010 4:42:38 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: napscoordinator

I’m a weight guy. Still roofing, occasionally, a house at 53, ex SF, bar tend in a real old, stabbing biker bar, and just bought a 35 wood ketch to rebuild in my spare time. Males that run, or ride bicycles for that matter, are a little to....wispy.... for my cultural biases. Although I do have a VW station wagon, which I get ribbed on, but a tool is a tool.


46 posted on 04/11/2010 4:49:35 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver

I have been following, for stock reasons the latest HCT/Apple grudge match. It seems that the then match made in heaven between ATT and Apple is devolving. Back then Apple had the machine, and ATT the network, which was pretty cool and could command a price premium. However AT&T’s network is antiquated, lower band width, to Sprint. Sooooo, when the picture/voice new HCT ( that Apple is trying to suppress in court ) comes out this summer, only Sprint’s will be able to carry the traffic.

Which should cause a lot of Apple ‘must-have-latest’ fan base to cringe to be in their favorite Starbucks and be dissed by lowly ....( GOD HELP US ) Sprint owners.

With all the pressure of all these now common phones, eating at the margins of supposedly profitible Apple’s I-Phone buisness. What happens now, vis a vis AT&T? Is Apple going to force them to redue their network? Or does AT&T have exhaulted Lord Jobs over a contractual barrel?

Just thinking, outside the box( is that allowed ) Apple is profitable, right? Cause Cult Jobs, even though he never pays out cash, has cash, right, right, Bueller, anyone? You know, like Apple might be the AIG of the computer world. We’ll see what happens to Apple shares the day Job dies and the corporate curtains come down.


47 posted on 04/11/2010 5:03:47 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Anti-Utopian
1. 4:3 is not widescreen

The controls for the display are below the widescreen presentation... and a 16:9 wide screen on a handheld device is not suitable for other purposes like e-reading, surfing the web, photographs, or other purposes. Best choice was to letter-box widescreen movies, and put controls below. Engineer and esthetic choice. Or would you really prefer a door shaped screen in vertical mode?

2. That isn't multitasking, it's apptasking, and it blows.

And you have used an iPhone or iPad and know that it blows WHEN? I use an iPhone 3Gs daily, and I can tell you that you would not know that it was not multitasking... because it IS. Ergo, you don't know what you are talking about... the iPhone has multitasked the native apps from day one. . . and some of the 3rd party apps DO multitask if they follow the guidelines Apple has established and permitted.

3. Riiiiiiight, unlike "super efficient" Quicktime. LOL

Quicktime in H264 is super efficient... again, you haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about. H264 is the most efficient way to stream HD content yet devised.

4. So I need 99 cent app.... plus a $300+ iPhone and monthly contract with AT&T to do what a basic laptop can do. FAIL

No, not fail. Again, more ignorance. Nor do you need a monthly contract. This is NOT a laptop. It is another device entirely. So don't compare it to a laptop. Any bluetooth camera will do... and the iPhone is only $199... and if you have one already... so much the better. And the camera and iPhone minus phone funtions still work without the contract... so that is not required either.

5. No video means no video. WiFi? Add another $130 to the already outrageous price.

Again, you display more ignorance. The basic iPad is WIFI. And is fully video capable... or do you truly believe that I wasn't watching streaming videos on the one that I was holding in my hands Thursday????? The 3G model is $130 more.

6. It's called a battery-swap, and people who do more than listen to MP3s don't do "charge time."

What are you blithering about? Do you know how much weight you are talking about to make the battery swappable??? You REALLY don't know what you are talking about... do you? Walt Mossberg really stressed his iPad watching movies, surfing the internet, downloading, doing almost everything watching streaming videos...he threw everything at it and timed the battery,... and it died at 11 hours and 40 minutes in the middle of watching an episode of a network TV program... I forget which one. So don't give me lies about mp3 listening.

7. Adapters for USB? Sold seperately! $$$$$

IF SOMEONE NEEDS a USB adaptor, they can buy it. So what. Most people don't need it. Why add the weight, thickness of case, and cost for them?

8. Exactly. As for the vast majority of computer users, we use video ports regularly.

Video ports... most users DO NOT USE VIDEO PORTS ON LAPTOPS... so that is just more BS. I'm a heavy computer user... and I can think of the times I used the video port on my laptop in the last two years... never. And again, weight, thickness of case, and cost?

10. Blue-Ray is antiquated. Now I've read everything.

It is. Why carry around a disk when the same content can be downloaded from the cloud? It was becoming antiquated when it was being introduced. HI DEF content is available from Netflicks and iTunes... and why weight down the iPad with an optical reader that breaks. This device has NO MOVING PARTS... why add one??? WHY ADD A DUST ACCESS PORT??? Weight, thickness of case, and cost? Show me a netbook with a blu-ray drive... Hell, show me a netbook with a cd/dvd drive.

11. NOT OSX is NOT OSX

Do you understand that iPhoneOS is OS X???? It is a mobile maximized version of OS X...

Thanks for sharing your ignorance.

48 posted on 04/11/2010 5:05:42 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver

driftdiver wrote: “blah blah blah swordmaker. hype is hype”

True words, sir. And you deploy a more than seemly array thereof yourself.


49 posted on 04/11/2010 5:05:43 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: driftdiver
Heck I don’t care if people want to buy a Mac. I just object to all the hype and kool aid drinkers.

Because you don't believe it... because you have not used a Mac. Really used one. You have not experienced both worlds. We have. Mac users have come out of the Windows world. Something like 80% of Mac users were Windows users now... and, frankly, we have a better knowledge base to make the comparison of what is hype and what is not. We are not the kool aid drinkers. We were... but not any more. We poured it out when we went Mac and are not going back.

50 posted on 04/11/2010 5:09:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver
Sure the ones put out by apple.

No.

51 posted on 04/11/2010 5:09:47 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Leisler
Speaking of who doesn’t know anything, are you familiar with the time value of money? You know, interest, vig, dividends?

I have a degree in Business Administration, concentration in Finance, minor in Economics. So, Leisler, yes, I do know about the time value of money...

52 posted on 04/11/2010 5:13:38 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the iPad capability lists.

I have my iPad and I love it.


53 posted on 04/11/2010 5:15:58 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet
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To: Swordmaker
Flash Support... It will not support Flash, and probably never will, because Flash is a 32 bit application and iPad and iPhone are 64 bit Operating Systems... and Flash is a resource hog that eats CPU cycles.

The iPhone OS is 32 bit. Even if it weren't, it's certainly possible to run Flash in 32 bit browsers on 64 bit operating systems. Apple's decision not to enable Flash on the iPhone/iPad is based on political reasons, not technical reasons.

OS X... iPhoneOS is a subset of OSX. However, apps are available that allow an iPad user to access both an OS X Mac or a Windows computer over the internet and fully use either of those computers.

$499 seems like an awful lot to pay for a portable dumb terminal when the same amount gets you a full-function laptop which can run OSX, Windows 7 or Linux natively.
54 posted on 04/11/2010 5:20:33 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: driftdiver

Just to play devil’s avocate for a second - on a different site, a fellow held much the same position as yourself. Determined to prove his assertions, he went to his local AAPL Store and actually played with a real iPad. When he left, he said something like, “It is magical, amazing. I was wrong. See my new iPad?”

Just saying.


55 posted on 04/11/2010 5:20:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Leisler
?Well, there you go, that certainly is the fault of the machine/software.

It certainly is. Macs don't need anti-viral ware... as of this time the total number of Viruses for Mac OS X in the wild, after ten years of OS X being in the wild, is ZERO. The business would not have lost a week of productivity due to viral infection if they had a Mac in that location. EVERYTHING that was being done on that computer could just as easily be done on a Mac... and even the Windows vertical solution database they run the optometry Office software on, being that it does not have to connect to the internet, could be run in a virtual machine sandbox under OS X, and be safe. All other work, especially internet ordering etc., could be handled by the Mac side... and be safely done without the need for cycle eating anti-anything ware.

56 posted on 04/11/2010 5:21:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: driftdiver
yeah I know you keep talking about it. A complete falsehood because AT&Ts network is not that good. Plus unless you were watching your phone continuously you would have no idea if it was 5 mins or 5 hours.

Actually, I was. My daughter was driving and I was surfing the internet on my iPhone. So don't call me a liar. I can actually show you on the map where the five minutes of no signal were located. AT&T has a strong presence across that corridor...

57 posted on 04/11/2010 5:23:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Leisler

Not a lefty by any streach and have been using AAPL since 1989. Payback = stock price. Bought at $100 in 2000, 2 splits. Now $230+. Market Cap just $10 billon less than MS.

AAPL, like its products, are long term investments, not dividend paying, trust fund crap.


58 posted on 04/11/2010 5:27:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Swordmaker

According to Job’s slide show at the 4.0 Demo, Andriod is now 19 and iPhone 64.


59 posted on 04/11/2010 5:28:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: driftdiver
“Macs can run more software than PCs can,”

Simply not true

All right, prove your negative.

Macs can run all Windows software, All versions of DOS, UNIX, BE-OS, AmigaOS, AtariOS, C-64 Software, all variations of LINUX, Mac OS X, Mac OS, THE-OS, and several other more obscure operating systems that run under emulation or Virtualization. So what proof do you have that PCs can run more?

60 posted on 04/11/2010 5:28:37 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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