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'Noah's Ark' discovery on Turkish mountain
AFP ^ | April 27, 2010

Posted on 04/26/2010 9:01:21 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers said Monday they believe they may have found Noah's Ark -- 4000m up a mountain in Turkey.

The team say they recovered wooden specimens from a structure on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey that carbon dating proved was 4800 years old, around the same time the ark is said to have been afloat.

"It's not 100 percent that it is Noah's Ark but we think it is 99.9 percent that this is it," Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker and member of the 15-strong team from Noah's Ark Ministries International told AFP.

The structure had several compartments, some with wooden beams, which were believed to house animals, he said.

The group of evangelical archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement on the grounds that one had never been found above 3500 metres in the vicinity, Yeung said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.ninemsn.com.au ...


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1 posted on 04/26/2010 9:01:21 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Again?


2 posted on 04/26/2010 9:03:38 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How many of them arks are up there anyway?


3 posted on 04/26/2010 9:05:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mylife

Apparently, Noah mass produced them.


4 posted on 04/26/2010 9:06:19 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did they find the pot-o-gold, too - oh wait, that’s something else.


5 posted on 04/26/2010 9:07:31 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Everybody Wing-cheung tonite!


6 posted on 04/26/2010 9:08:27 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Free ThinkerNY

no shite sherlock how much did the chinese pay the Turks to go up that mountain so they could get the grant to excavate


7 posted on 04/26/2010 9:08:38 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Windflier

Did Noah start a franchise?


8 posted on 04/26/2010 9:10:05 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The biblical story says God decided to flood the earth after seeing how corrupt it had become,

If this was/is true then why have we not seen it since? The world is hundreds of times more corrupt today than at anytime in history.

I'm calling BS... just another fairy tale...

9 posted on 04/26/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: stainlessbanner

Everybody Wing-cheung tonite!

You owe me a keyboard LOL!

Mel


10 posted on 04/26/2010 9:15:41 PM PDT by melsec
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have seen so many supposed findings of Noah’s Ark that I am not keen to believe without strong evidence - fossilized Unicorn poop should be enough!

Mel


11 posted on 04/26/2010 9:17:36 PM PDT by melsec
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To: MWestMom
Did Noah start a franchise?

You'd almost think that Noah was skipper of the flagship of a flotilla of arks, if you can believe all of the reports we've seen over the years.

I tend to believe that many (if not all) of these archaeologists have found evidence of large, sea-going craft on Mt. Ararat. How else can you explain the discovery of all those wooden constructions? They can't be lodgings. The place is as inhospitable now, as it probably was 10,000 years ago.

I've gotta admit that it's a fascinating, ongoing endeavor.

12 posted on 04/26/2010 9:19:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

>>How many of them arks are up there anyway?
**

“And God told Noah, build an ark and take 2 of everything.” I think Noah misheard Him and built 200..


13 posted on 04/26/2010 9:19:55 PM PDT by max americana
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

You must have skipped Sunday school the day they explained the whole rainbow thing. Next time he said he’d use fire.


14 posted on 04/26/2010 9:25:33 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thee dating of 4800 years ago is over 300 years after thee beginning of ancient Egypt.


15 posted on 04/26/2010 9:26:39 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Windflier

12,000 feet up a mountain begs the question where the water went.


16 posted on 04/26/2010 9:27:16 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Windflier

You’re right I think that they have actually run across quite a bit of evidence apparently of more than one craft.

But, just dang! At first I thought that the craft might have broken up and was deposited in a rather far flung fashion. But some of what has been found is too much material for that theory to “stay afloat.”

I swear as soon as I thought stay afloat I tried to find another phrase, but it just locked me up. : )


17 posted on 04/26/2010 9:27:25 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

TTIUWOP.


18 posted on 04/26/2010 9:29:03 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You could build a house with the all relics of the True Cross. I’m guessing you could build a modest sized navy with all the arks on Ararat.


19 posted on 04/26/2010 9:31:40 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Anyone care to integrate the volume of a shell with an initial circumference of 25,000 miles and a final circumference 12,000 feet above the initial circumference? That is a pot load of water.


20 posted on 04/26/2010 9:32:16 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


21 posted on 04/26/2010 9:33:32 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
12,000 feet up a mountain begs the question where the water went.

If it were truly Noah's Ark, then I'd say the water went wherever God wanted it.

22 posted on 04/26/2010 9:35:57 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: mylife

Hell, I thought I saw Leonard Nimoy on TV telling me this back in the 1970s


23 posted on 04/26/2010 9:37:02 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why is it that no one ever includes pictures? BTW...that area has always been considered to be a likely spot. Wood has been discovered there before but the weather is so harsh that the site continually gets buried by snow or noone can get up there. I read a few years ago that Turkey banned people from exploring the area. It wouldn’t be surprising if they do so again.


24 posted on 04/26/2010 9:39:03 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: MWestMom
At first I thought that the craft might have broken up and was deposited in a rather far flung fashion. But some of what has been found is too much material for that theory to “stay afloat.”

Good pun.

Yes, there are entirely too many sites, and far too much ancient wood for it to have come from a single craft. What I keep returning to is the question of, what are all of those immense beams of ancient wood doing so far up that mountain?

From the photos and archaeological drawings I've seen, they're definitely not buildings, but they are in some sort of purpose-built layout, such as a large water vessel.

Nothing makes more sense to me, than the theory that they must have come to rest there when the water level was at that altitude. It's all very intriguing.

25 posted on 04/26/2010 9:39:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pissant

Heyup.


26 posted on 04/26/2010 9:43:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
12,000 feet up a mountain begs the question where the water went.

Evaporation due to global warming? LOL

I'm only half joking about that. I wonder where sea level would rise to if all of the ice melted at both poles?

Could humans survive the sort of sustained temperatures that could cause such a melt? Hmm...doubt it.

Ok, so if the sea couldn't rise 12,000 feet - even if only temporarily, then how did those boats (if that's what they are) get up there?

Tidal wave?

Perhaps sea levels were already much higher then, than they are today, and something caused them to temporarily rise to where those artifacts now rest.

27 posted on 04/26/2010 9:48:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Since the Bible states that the waters receded, it is fair to ask to where. I mean no disrespect, but 12,000 feet of water over the entire globe is more water than what is currently in the oceans. It had to go somewhere. Maybe the Lord has a tremendous water park, but I’d doubt he’d need our water.


28 posted on 04/26/2010 9:49:44 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Anyone care to integrate the volume of a shell with an initial circumference of 25,000 miles and a final circumference 12,000 feet above the initial circumference? That is a pot load of water.

The water wouldn't have to cover the entire globe to 12,000 feet above current sea level. It could have come as a tsunami, then subsided.

29 posted on 04/26/2010 9:50:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: All

MY BS METER READS %100 ON THIS ARK STORY. JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM PURE BS.
I don’t believe there actually ever was a real ark .


30 posted on 04/26/2010 9:53:23 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Seems every ten years someone discovers the old thing...
31 posted on 04/26/2010 9:56:18 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh good, it’s been found again.

In the 70’s some guy came to our church, telling us a fantastic story about seeing the arc.

Unfortunately his camera and film were confiscated by the government.(Don’t remember which).


32 posted on 04/26/2010 9:57:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

It was a Welsh lie not an Irish lie.


33 posted on 04/26/2010 9:58:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Windflier
immense beams of ancient wood

Maybe an ancient nursing home?

34 posted on 04/26/2010 9:59:29 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

There are pictures, for those who do not mind “wading” through a little Chinese:

http://www.thenoahark.com/noahsarksearch/eng/

Also, the assumption that the many “close encounters” represent too much material for a single craft is built on an assumption of maximum possible craft size. If that assumption is wrong, a single large craft could account for all the specimens thus far found and more. Just sayin …

As for theological considerations, the ark is a unique signpost in Biblical history. One would not expect God to run that show multiple times because he promised he would only do it once with water.

Furthermore, this would be an interesting time for us to discover the ark. God flooded the earth once in judgment of human sin, then revealed it through Peter to be a prototype of the final judgment. One object lesson. One final judgment. If it turns out to be a credible find, what might God be telling us?


35 posted on 04/26/2010 9:59:49 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Windflier

I’ve often wondered about the parched conditions on Mars. Could our oceans be evaporating into outer space? If so... was it Bush’s fault???? /sac/


36 posted on 04/26/2010 10:01:42 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

They should check to see if anyone stamped “Made in China” on the thing...


37 posted on 04/26/2010 10:03:57 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is a photo of the press conference. Yeah. That looks legit.

38 posted on 04/26/2010 10:04:39 PM PDT by Grim (I'm voting for Sarah and so are my wife and three children.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The biblical story says God decided to flood the earth after seeing how corrupt it had become,
If this was/is true then why have we not seen it since? The world is hundreds of times more corrupt today than at anytime in history.

I’m calling BS... just another fairy tale...

TMMT,

Respectfully submitted: Corruption? Plenty back then...perhaps more so. Why no more floods? Reference the significance of the Rainbow in your Bible. Fairy tale? Every knee will bow....no exception.


39 posted on 04/26/2010 10:04:44 PM PDT by He'sComingBack!
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hmmm— we have the Bible account, the Gilgamesh account, —I would wild guess that probably every city in the Elam to Susa to Mari district built a ship to evacuate from the city to escape the flood. Everyone saw Noah building a huge vessel that couldn`t be hidden in a back yard. So I would venture that the jig was up and everyone copied Noah, just as every 1950`s small town in US had at least one crazy guy building a bomb shelter because of the Russian nuclear threat by Bear bombers. I built one too, in 1957, only one in town-ha!


40 posted on 04/26/2010 10:05:36 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: melsec

Ah, no ... sadly, the unicorns wouldn’t get on the Ark. That’s why they aren’t around anymore.


41 posted on 04/26/2010 10:07:05 PM PDT by zot
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To: Windflier
You'd almost think that Noah was skipper of the flagship of a flotilla of arks

Did someone say "skipper"?


42 posted on 04/26/2010 10:09:42 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: April Lexington
I’ve often wondered about the parched conditions on Mars. Could our oceans be evaporating into outer space?

Water molecules have sufficient weight to keep them earth-bound by gravity. Helium is lighter than air, but I don't think even helium can escape the tug of the planet.

As to Mars, it has a different atmosphere than Earth does. More carbon dioxide, and less nitrogen and oxygen.

Because of that (and the fact that it lost its magnetic core) it's bombarded with cosmic rays from the sun, where Earth's magnetic field repels them. All life on Earth would cease, if we lost our magnetic field.

... was it Bush’s fault?

Algore would probably buy that .. LOL

43 posted on 04/26/2010 10:09:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

The Biblical account specifically mentions fissuring of “the fountains of the great deep.” There is a possibility that much of the water of the flood was a temporary, forced extrusion of subterranean water. In any event, owing to tidal distributions and the probability of unusual seismic activity, it would simply not be necessary for the entire globe to be uniformly, statically immersed just to set one boat relatively high on one mountain.


44 posted on 04/26/2010 10:10:26 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: zot

green aligators and log neck geese maybe - or humpty back camels and chimpanzees


45 posted on 04/26/2010 10:10:33 PM PDT by melsec
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To: sonic109
I don’t believe there actually ever was a real ark .

Party pooper.

Stop poopin' on our party, man.

46 posted on 04/26/2010 10:12:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

What would a tsunami of that size do to the Ark, I wonder. Noah would have made a fortune selling souvenir toothpicks of the Ark, which is about all that would be left after such a tidal wave. I believe in the Flood, but remember, the ark ‘came to rest’. The narrative says nothing of a wave.


47 posted on 04/26/2010 10:12:13 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Anyone care to integrate the volume of a shell with an initial circumference of 25,000 miles and a final circumference 12,000 feet above the initial circumference? That is a pot load of water.

Actually, you have to go to 29,000 feet since EVERYTHING was submerged, which means Mt. Everest. I did it once, it ended up being about 30 TIMES the total water on the Earth and in the atmosphere right now. A few pot loads, I'd say!

48 posted on 04/26/2010 10:13:25 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: zot

And Noah looked out through the driving rain
Them unicorns were hiding, playing silly games
Kicking and splashing while the rain was falling
Oh, them silly unicorns


49 posted on 04/26/2010 10:16:00 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Springfield Reformer

I’m not going to leap into my Bible, but Noah sent out several doves in calm seas searching for land, did he not?


50 posted on 04/26/2010 10:16:38 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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