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Race row erupts over casting of Angelina Jolie as Cleopatra
dailymail.co.uk ^ | June 17, 2010 | Sophie Forbes

Posted on 06/17/2010 8:16:48 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

She hasn't even been officially confirmed as having the role, but Angelina Jolie is already receiving criticism over her possible portrayal of the legendary Queen of the Nile.

Jolie, who turned 35 last week, is caught up in a racially charged debate over whether the role should of been played by a black woman.

The Egyptian royal was most famously portrayed Elizabeth Taylor in 1963.

The new film's producer, Scott Rudin, previously told USA Today the role is being developed with Angelina in mind as she has 'the perfect look'.

But this statement has angered members of the African American community.

An Essence Magazine online story asks, 'Another White Actress to Play Cleopatra?'

'Honestly, I don't care how full Angelina Jolie's lips are, how many African children she adopts, or how bronzed her skin will become for the film, I firmly believe this role should have gone to a black woman.'

Jolie adopted her daughter Zahara,5, from Ethiopia and gave birth to Shiloh,3, in Namibia. She also has 3 other children with partner, Brad Pitt. Maddox, 8, Pax, 6, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 2.

'Were Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry and Thandie Newton unavailable for auditions that day?' the writer continued.

'Why does Hollywood think it’s even slightly plausible to cast white women in roles that would be more sensible to cast a black actress for? Especially when that role is an African queen.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 06/17/2010 8:16:48 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cleopatra wasn’t black. Time to end that stupid myth.


2 posted on 06/17/2010 8:18:13 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Clock King

The Ptolemies were Greek, were they not?


3 posted on 06/17/2010 8:19:06 PM PDT by steve8714 (They auctioned my house. I pray and work for better days ahead, God willing.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

4 posted on 06/17/2010 8:19:16 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Clock King

On the other hand, she wasn’t pretty either. Let’s keep some myths.


5 posted on 06/17/2010 8:19:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The only black Cleopatra had the surname Jones. She was a hottie too.


6 posted on 06/17/2010 8:20:01 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who cares what members of the African Community think?


7 posted on 06/17/2010 8:20:45 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: steve8714

Yes, they were not blacks. Past and current egyptians are were/are not black, either.

Time to get some proper history lessons to the blacks in our pwn country.


8 posted on 06/17/2010 8:22:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Clock King

Sounds to me that they don’t want the movie to flop.

Perfectly reasonable.


9 posted on 06/17/2010 8:22:25 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: steve8714

Yup. Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek.


10 posted on 06/17/2010 8:22:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: steve8714

Macedonian. But don’t confuse them with facts. It upsets their fake outrage.


11 posted on 06/17/2010 8:23:26 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: steve8714
"The Ptolemies were Greek, were they not?"

Macedonian. Close enough.

12 posted on 06/17/2010 8:23:27 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: MrEdd

Who’s slated for Marc A.?


13 posted on 06/17/2010 8:23:28 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"I firmly believe this role should have gone to a black woman.' "

Cleopatra was Greek, hammerhead.

14 posted on 06/17/2010 8:24:04 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cleopatra was Greek: the Ptolomy dynasty was descended from one of Alexander the great’s generals.


15 posted on 06/17/2010 8:24:07 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here’s the ‘mentality’:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKYvDn095Ew


16 posted on 06/17/2010 8:24:09 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pure absolute racism. Her skin isnt the right color for the part. Outrageous.


17 posted on 06/17/2010 8:24:32 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Free ThinkerNY


Cleopatra VII of Egypt, Mark Antony's lover. A 1st century BC statue.
18 posted on 06/17/2010 8:25:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Rebelbase

Me for one, being one of them. In this case they are being silly ....really silly.. But to give a very broad-brush answer to your very broad-brush question - me!


19 posted on 06/17/2010 8:25:16 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Clock King

She was Greek.


20 posted on 06/17/2010 8:25:22 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This is who should play Cleopatra...


21 posted on 06/17/2010 8:25:30 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: MrEdd

So what you’re saying is Roman generals had lousy taste in women. Could be. I remember reading about the kind of food they ate.


22 posted on 06/17/2010 8:25:37 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: steve8714

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_dynasty


23 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:09 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: txhurl

The dude thats married to J lo


24 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:20 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: BobL

Do they not teach history in high schools any more?

Cleopatra was NOT black. She was a member of the Ptolomaic Dynasty (Greek and Macedonian) who ruled over Egypt at the time. The Ptolomaic royal line was forbidden to inter-marry with native Egyptians, and during the later period of that Dynasty they only intermarried with their own siblings.


25 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:44 PM PDT by artaxerces
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To: txhurl

“Who’s slated for Marc A.?”

James Earl Jones


26 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:53 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sadly, kids are shocked today when you tell them she was Greek-the direct descendant of one of Alexander’s generals. They don’t believe me. Then they look it up and realize the old guy isn’t so crazy. I can literally sense their little pea brains churning-”If he was right about that, maybe he was right about Obama...naaahhh, couldn’t be.”


27 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:57 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Iron Man 2-a great conservative movie.)
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To: Dallas59

Don Imus nappy headed ho


28 posted on 06/17/2010 8:26:58 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Egyptians weren’t black. They’re like Arabs.


29 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:06 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Hmm...there are a lot of talented black actresses out there, but I don't think any of them can pull off the personality of Cleopatra as well as Angelina Jolie can...Jolie just has that something. That Cleopatra-esque "essence" if you will. It also helps that she has that global-minded leadership quality in real life.

If the story is true, I think it's a great casting choice. I think the role would come naturally to her.

30 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:09 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Free ThinkerNY
She also has 3 other children with partner, Brad Pitt. Maddox, 8, Pax, 6, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 2.

Isn't that four or do twins count as one?

31 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:15 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: OldDeckHand

OMG yes Melina K


32 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:24 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: MrEdd

On what basis do you say that she wasn’t pretty ?


33 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:28 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I believe that in the upcoming "Thor" movie, one of the Nordic gods will be played by a black man. Fine. Now, a historical European figure is played by a white woman, and the blacks are up in arms.

Their ignorance and fake outrage makes me smile.

34 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: txhurl

Jet Li.


35 posted on 06/17/2010 8:27:57 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Dallas59

Well, she may not be much to look at, but she had vast... tracts of land.


36 posted on 06/17/2010 8:28:18 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Williams

I always thought that if Sammy Davis Jr. should have played Robert E. Lee in the civil war movie. Hollywood showing true affirmative action.


37 posted on 06/17/2010 8:28:31 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: steve8714
Yep, Cleo was definitely Greek. However history is being rewritten
as we speak, so as to say. It is PC that all the accomplishments
of Egypt were by the Black Pharaohs. 150 years the then PC idea was
that Angkor Wat was built by a lost Roman legion. Times and prejudices
change but stupidity remain constant.
38 posted on 06/17/2010 8:28:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: steve8714

Yes, of course, they were Greek, and the Egyptians who were ruled by the Ptolemies weren’t black either. They are generally a semitic people.

There is some black influence on demographics from regions up the Nile, but it is not large.
There was also a brief period in which it is believed that blacks ruled part of Egypt when Egypt was in disarray, but it was a long time before Cleopatra and didn’t last long (Egypt has an enormously long history).

Let me be the first, however, to point out that Cleopatra Jones wasn’t white. Consequently, I would have to object to Jolie being cast as that Cleopatra ;-)


39 posted on 06/17/2010 8:28:49 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

40 posted on 06/17/2010 8:28:59 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This is an outrage /s

41 posted on 06/17/2010 8:29:22 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Clock King

Okay the Macedonian Ptolemies had been there for 300 years, but Cleopatra (VII) was the first to bother to learn to speak Egyptian. Hardly "gone native".

42 posted on 06/17/2010 8:29:59 PM PDT by Vide
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To: Pan_Yan
'Jet Li"

LOL

43 posted on 06/17/2010 8:30:13 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

“This is who should play Cleopatra...”

Wow; I’m glad the Helen Thomas picture didn’t show up after that line.
Whew...


44 posted on 06/17/2010 8:30:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I guess these idiots never studied History...Cleopatra was of Macedonian descent. She was descended from Ptolemy I, A general who served under Alexander the Great. He appointed himself a King after the death of Alexander.

What else would you expect from self-absorbed racist Morons...


45 posted on 06/17/2010 8:30:28 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Coins of Antony and Cleopatra (in that order, 'cause it's kind of hard to tell)

46 posted on 06/17/2010 8:30:41 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Racist....and uneducated, ignorant....bastards. Who cares.


47 posted on 06/17/2010 8:31:02 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Clemenza
"The only black Cleopatra had the surname Jones. She was a hottie too."

Are you talking about Miss Cleo?

48 posted on 06/17/2010 8:31:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You’d think the row would be over the making of another stupid Cleopatra movie.


49 posted on 06/17/2010 8:32:37 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek that means she was a white girl! Don’t tell that to the diverse ones because they’ll get upset.


50 posted on 06/17/2010 8:33:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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