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Complex, Multicellular Life from Over Two Billion Years Ago Discovered
Sciencedaily.com ^ | 07/01/10

Posted on 07/06/2010 2:59:07 AM PDT by jerry557

The discovery in Gabon of more than 250 fossils in an excellent state of conservation has provided proof, for the first time, of the existence of multicellular organisms 2.1 billion years ago. This finding represents a major breakthrough: until now, the first complex life forms (made up of several cells) dated from around 600 million years ago.

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By studying the sedimentary structures of this site, the scientists have shown that these organisms lived in a shallow marine environment (20 to 30 meters), often calm but periodically subjected to the combined influence of tides, waves and storms. In order to be able to develop 2.1 billion years ago and become differentiated to a degree never attained previously, the authors suggest that these life forms probably benefited from the significant but temporary increase in oxygen concentration in the atmosphere, which occurred between 2.45 and 2 billion years ago. Then, 1.9 billion years ago, the level of oxygen in the atmosphere fell suddenly.

Until now, it has been assumed that organized multicellular life appeared around 0.6 billion years ago and that before then the Earth was mainly populated by microbes (viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc.). This new discovery moves the cursor of the origin of multicellular life back by 1.5 billion years and reveals that cells had begun to cooperate with each other to form more complex and larger structures than single-celled organisms. Several research avenues now need to be explored: understanding the history of the Gabonese basin and why the necessary conditions were gathered to enable this organized and complex life to exist; further exploring the site to enhance the collection of fossils; but also comparing the history of the Earth's oxygenation with the mineralization of clays. The most urgent task, however, remains the protection of this exceptional site.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: earth; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; life; paleontology
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1 posted on 07/06/2010 2:59:14 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: jerry557
Complex, Multicellular Life from Over Two Billion Years Ago Discovered

Bull****. The people telling you that are the same people telling you that the stegosaur, which American Indian ancestors called Mishipishu ("water panther") and which the original artists of the various petroglyph images you see of them e.g.

clearly saw in real life, died out 65,000,000 years ago.

By the same standards I'll probably be about 700,000 years old myself on my next birthday.

The basic hard, cold reality is that evolution and evoloserism and all of the fairytale time schemes devised to support evolution are dead.

2 posted on 07/06/2010 3:32:44 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: jerry557

Fascinating, thanks for posting.


3 posted on 07/06/2010 3:38:32 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: wendy1946

There is also a lot of sculptures and paintings from ancient times and all throughout history that show what looks to be alien figures, UFOs, and space ships. Do you suggest that is proof that aliens exist and have been visting us for 5,000 years?


4 posted on 07/06/2010 3:50:24 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: wendy1946

Children in cultures that have never seen bears have nightmares about animals they decribe that can only be bears. The human mind can imagine all sorts of monsters; deoicting them does not make them real.


5 posted on 07/06/2010 4:22:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: wendy1946
The Indian image seems to me to be more likely a buffalo type animal. You don't offer a date for the image but a post-Spanish Texas Longhorn seems possible too. Here is an image of a Stegosaurus. Note, no head horns and a very small head. I presume you call it a Stegosaurus based on the bumps along the back. No idea what the artist meant them to be, but Stegosaurus dorsal plates were huge relative to the head, as you can see. The drawn horns are not Stegosaurus tailspikes since you can see the feet are clearly pointed toward the head and horns. Yet another problem is if there were dinosaurs in historical times, where are the fossils ? In nearly two centuries of archaeology, somebody should have found something so odd and out of place.
6 posted on 07/06/2010 4:43:28 AM PDT by tlb
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To: wendy1946

Dude, a stegosaurus? I think this drawing was most likely the result of peyote.


7 posted on 07/06/2010 5:40:13 AM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: Paradox
Looks like an elephant with bristly hair running down its back.

Hmm ~ now where have we seen that before?

8 posted on 07/06/2010 5:50:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tlb
Yet another problem is if there were dinosaurs in historical times, where are the fossils ?

The general consensus on fossilization is that it is quite rare and dependent on multiple environmental and geologic conditions to play together in specific ways. It also takes a long time in human scale

9 posted on 07/06/2010 6:29:21 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: wendy1946

Looks like a caveman's interpretation of an alligator.

10 posted on 07/06/2010 7:33:07 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: All
Guys,

Just to give you some perspective, Wendy1946 is the infamous nutter Ted Holden. Yes, he most certainly believes in UFO's and aliens and Jesus-riding-dino scenarios. And those are his more "normal" revelations. he's been banned from FR numerous times, but is continually allowed to return with new monikers.

Enjoy his website.
11 posted on 07/06/2010 12:14:33 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Paradox

Amerind oral traditions describe the water panther as having a sawblade back, red fur, and a spiked tail, i.e. a stegosaur as the image shows. Try doing google searches on ‘dinosaur’ and ‘petroglyphs’. It’s a growing field of research.


12 posted on 07/06/2010 3:40:20 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
It’s a growing field of research.

Kinda like Trutherism.

13 posted on 07/06/2010 3:46:51 PM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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14 posted on 07/06/2010 4:10:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: wendy1946; SunkenCiv

SAME CREATURE!

Underwater Panther, National Museum of the American Indian George Gustav Heye Center

SOURCE

From AUSTRALIA. Two representations of 'rainbow serpent' in aboriginal rock art:

Fossil - PLESIOSAUR

I conclude the depictions of both the 'underwater panther' and the 'rainbow serpent' are the result of OBSERVATION. The creatures obviously existed within the timeframe of the exerience or memory of the artists.

15 posted on 07/06/2010 5:03:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv; wendy1946

Think I otta ‘splain my theory of relativity and the time/space distortions caused by the influence of Singularities and that there is One present causing the warping of time as can be evinced (in and or to) by the mondo bizarro behavior of the POTUS?

Or should I just say that time is something that NO ONE understands, and Wendy really is 700,000 years old and in another 700,000 years when they pull that stick from the mud they’ll just stick it right back in?


16 posted on 07/06/2010 5:08:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Fred Nerks
There's more of that out there. In the age prior to the present internet age establishment science types could pooh-pooh this stuff and call anybody wanting to talk about it names and get over that way but those days are gone.

The sauropod dinosaur petroglyph at Natural Bridges, Utah/

17 posted on 07/06/2010 5:09:18 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Fred Nerks
I conclude the depictions of both the 'underwater panther' and the 'rainbow serpent' are the result of OBSERVATION. The creatures obviously existed within the timeframe of the exerience or memory of the artists.

Would you also conclude that griffins existed in medeval Europe?

18 posted on 07/06/2010 5:19:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jerry557

No Helen Thomas pics yet?


19 posted on 07/06/2010 5:31:31 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: wendy1946

and in China the smaller dino's were tame.

20 posted on 07/06/2010 5:34:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: jerry557

IB4THTP


21 posted on 07/06/2010 5:39:22 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: wendy1946
Looks sort of like this guy:



22 posted on 07/06/2010 5:42:01 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: tacticalogic
Would you also conclude that griffins existed in medeval Europe?

medieval -

what you choose to ignore it that the creatures depicted by pre-historic artists have been shown to have existed by the discovery of FOSSILS.

23 posted on 07/06/2010 5:45:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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OFCS...


24 posted on 07/06/2010 5:58:00 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Fred Nerks
what you choose to ignore it that the creatures depicted by pre-historic artists have been shown to have existed by the discovery of FOSSILS.

Fossils have been found exposed by natural erosion. We look at fossils and draw depctions of what we think they might have looked like based on those fossils. Do you disallow the possibility that those depictions may be the result of preistoric people having stumbled onto fossil remains of the same animals we've discovered?

25 posted on 07/06/2010 6:00:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Hey, Fred. Follow this and it all becomes clear.

I’ve been studying Afrophysics. I’ve discovered Obama isn’t really black. He’s just so dense, light bends around him. However, this density causes acretin disc to form around him, making him appear brighter than he really is. As you know, the closer you are to His kind of Singularity, the more time slows. So your position relative to the O can cause some wild variations in time.

This being the case, why not? (what you said)


26 posted on 07/06/2010 6:06:14 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: tacticalogic
...Do you disallow the possibility that those depictions may be the result of preistoric people having stumbled onto fossil remains of the same animals we've discovered?

And thus, the griffin? Interesting idea. Fossil of a winged mammal?

27 posted on 07/06/2010 6:30:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bigheadfred
...However, this density causes acretin disc to form around him...

a cretin disc...! Now I get it!

28 posted on 07/06/2010 6:33:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I get it!

I KNEW you would. So here's the thing, Fred. I believe the power of the human mind is bounded only by the matrix wherein it is confined.

For most peeple...testing...testing...is this thing on?...


29 posted on 07/06/2010 6:54:44 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv

I vote bloodbath. ;)


30 posted on 07/06/2010 7:56:32 PM PDT by Redcitizen (My tagline went to Tagline Anonymous, back shortly...)
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To: bigheadfred
the closer you are to His kind of Singularity, the more time slows

Oh No!! His Presidency has already seemed like an Eternity!

31 posted on 07/06/2010 8:03:43 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: tlb; wendy1946

What would have prevented Indians from seeing dino fossils and incorporated those images into their paintings?


32 posted on 07/06/2010 8:20:27 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: Bernard Marx

The main problem, as I see it, is the O has no concept of my every today existence. What for me is today, won’t cross his awareness for several months. So when he says “It isn’t as bad as it could be”, that has no relevance in my current time. It is as bad as it could be. By the “time” he catches up with “today”, his term as POTUS will be so over. Not that that will do this BDMF any good.


33 posted on 07/06/2010 8:24:51 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: HereInTheHeartland
What would have prevented Indians from seeing dino fossils and incorporated those images into their paintings?

Having better things to do. Generally at least. Lewis and Clarke reported their Indian guides being in mortal terror of the Mishipishu/stegosaur glyphs around the Mississippi and the meaning of the things was clear enough i.e. they were warnings, saying "Be careful, one of these things lives close by". I mean, the things weren't just art work for art's sake.

Amerind artists would touch them up every few decades or so which is why they still exist and the stegosaur was long gone by the time a later artist added the horns which you see on the image from Agawa Rock at Massinaw, Lake Superior.

34 posted on 07/06/2010 8:45:43 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: bigheadfred

That’s an interesting theory. I see him as an acretin disk surrounding an enormous black a-hole. It has a very large Schwarzenegger radius and is of sufficient size to absorb all current and future tax money. I’m afraid the events on his horizon will eventually result in a big bang.


35 posted on 07/06/2010 10:24:24 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: jerry557; wendy1946

As I was observing the fossil remains of a stegosaurus similar to the one shown posted above, a man came up shaking his head and wondering out loud, "can you imagine hunting one of those with only a spear."

I did not reply

36 posted on 07/07/2010 4:24:20 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: wendy1946

In the painted desert park there is a petroglyph depicting the weblos badge


37 posted on 07/07/2010 4:28:25 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: bert

bttt


38 posted on 07/07/2010 4:30:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: tlb

The horns in the petroglyph at massinaw were added at a much more recent time. Amerind oral traditions describe the water panther as having red fur, a sawblade back, and a “great spiked tail” as the glyphs show. No modern animal has a sawblade back or a spiked tail.


39 posted on 07/07/2010 4:35:04 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

“The basic hard, cold reality is that evolution and evoloserism and all of the fairytale time schemes devised to support evolution are dead. “

Prefacing nonsense with a curseword always helps a vacuous argument.

So, your argument is that pictures on a wall from an illiterate savage trump the science of millenia and the intellectual giants that have pursued it over those thousands of years.

Your argument parodies itself.


40 posted on 07/07/2010 4:35:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Redcitizen

;’)


41 posted on 07/07/2010 8:06:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: wendy1946



42 posted on 07/07/2010 10:10:49 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: tlb
if there were dinosaurs in historical times, where are the fossils ? In nearly two centuries of archaeology, somebody should have found something so odd and out of place.

It's also awfully convenient that they survived long enough for American Indians to have seen them and still be scared of them when Lewis and Clark went west, but no European explorer or settler ever ran into one.

43 posted on 07/07/2010 11:33:04 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: jerry557
Do you suggest that is proof that aliens exist and have been visting us for 5,000 years?

I would suggest they were visiting the Earth about 450,000 years ago.

44 posted on 07/07/2010 11:43:18 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Fred Nerks
And thus, the griffin? Interesting idea. Fossil of a winged mammal?

Or simply an artist's active imagination. What's your basis for drawing the conclusion that it is more likely that the drawing was from direct observation of a living animal, and not from an artist's rendering of an animal from observed fossils or that it was an invention of the artist's imagination?

What evidence leads you to believe that one possibility is reasonable, and the other two not?

45 posted on 07/07/2010 11:53:10 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Don't know what you're worried about. It's a fact that dinosaurs and people lived at the same time. The dinos thought girls in bikinis were especially tasty.


46 posted on 07/07/2010 12:29:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

The dinos weren’t alone.


47 posted on 07/07/2010 3:57:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: tacticalogic

Extinct Thylacine petroglyph depicted at Murujuga, Dampier, West Australia.

These creatures became extinct on the Australian mainland thousands of years before European settlement of the continent, but survived on the island of Tasmania.

They likely preferred the dry eucalyptus forests, wetlands, and grasslands in continental Australia. Indigenous Australian rock paintings indicate that these animals lived throughout mainland Australia and New Guinea. Proof of their existence in mainland Australia came from a desiccated carcass that was discovered in a cave in the Nullarbor Plain in Western Australia in 1990. Carbon dating revealed its remains to be about 3,300 years old.

Aboriginal cave painting of a Thylacine and its cub in the Pilbara region of West Australia dating back 6,000 years.

Fossils don't have stripes. What is it that you find so threatening in the theory that pre-historic people depicted the creatures THEY SAW!

48 posted on 07/07/2010 5:24:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I don’t find it frightening at all. I find tacit asssertion that it was impossible for them to have drawn something they didn’t actually see to be dubious. We do it all the time. Why couldn’t they?


49 posted on 07/07/2010 5:32:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
No Helen Thomas pics yet?

Be careful what you ask for.

50 posted on 07/07/2010 7:53:46 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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