Skip to comments.When To Shoot The Colonels
Posted on 07/20/2010 1:18:37 PM PDT by VR-21
At ease, Marines, and be seated" orders the gruff Gunnery Sergeant. "Now turn to Chapter 8 in your Military Constitutional Law text," he continues. "Today we discuss the appropriate conditions for shooting a colonel who is issuing an order which would violate the Constitutional rights of American citizens. Our first scenario involves gun seizures..."
Absurd, isn't it, to think that this sort of education is conducted among our armed forces? Yet, millions of citizens indulge this unspoken fantasy each time they imagine that the military exists to preserve our freedoms.
When I was at the Naval Academy in the mid-80s, and a Marine officer in the late 1980s and early 1990s, discussion of such issues was considered taboo. One fellow junior officer even scoffed that "Congress can change that Constitution any time they like." This isn't to say that there wasn't an undercurrent among most of the warfighters that issues such as gun control and preservation freedom of speech might one day pose a crisis of command. Yet this undercurrent was kept carefully concealed, and tended to become a more and more uncomfortable subject as the ranks of one's company became more elevated. Fortunately, with the Soviets and the threat of global thermonuclear war, these issues seemed far removed and safe from serious discussion.
Not so today. In the aftermath of Katrina, armed and uniformed soldiers patrolled the streets and disarmed Americans. Some uniformed soldiers were captured on film lamenting that "I can't believe that we're doing this to Americans." Yet, they did it anyway, lamentations notwithstanding. But why?
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If the military or the law enforcement community launch an assault against the civilian population, (not the traffic stop tasering of old women that seems to be the rage now a days), then the oath that I took on August 10, 1966 which has not been renounced in any form or fashion, allows me to use whatever means necessary to protect the Constitution. I sincerely hope the grievances that we have against the government will be resolved peacefully, and to a happy conclusion, but now is the time to firmly rehearse in your mind just what actions you will take if and when the worst case comes on us.
Nope, not even that: 2/3 majorities of both houses of Congress need ratification by 3/4 of the several states to change the Constitution.
Come on Trapped in LA,
“If those countrymen had been armed it would have been another story”
You been to south central lately?
How about San Fernando?
Hey Senior Chief,
And GOD bless.
Ya old fart/
Only a grunt really understans the meaning of, "better you than me Mike Foxtrot". Regards
Thanks Froedrick, I haven’t seen most of that, and it reminds me of the old saying...”When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
Many would be gung-ho at first...and many, over varying periods of time would decide to abandon their posts to go home or join the insurgency.
The KEY to such movement would be the insurgency would have to be perceived as as holding the high moral ground.
No women, no kids. Don't damage the means of production/distribution. Focus on the apparatus of government ONLY. Reach out to the cops...allow them to patrol the streets to keep the peace IF they "look the other way".
Punish only the forces of oppression. Win the hearts and minds of the people.
True enough, but back in '72 I was at an official briefing on Guam where an Air Force BG said "I cannot imagine I would ever be given an unlawful order by my superiors." So the theory might lack something in practice.
I bounced on Andy’s runways a time or two that year. Agana’s as well. One gallon duty free.
LOL! Do you remember seeing the 'dip' in the runway at Anderson for the first time? Migawd, B-52Ds on their takeoff roll would lose ten knots of airspeed when they hit the uphill part.
There are orders we will not obey. I suggest all who are interested visit the Oath Keepers website.
Keep your head down my friend.
I've long sensed an interesting dichotomy sometimes between the attitudes of active duty and separated.
Come to think of it I do, though I wasn't a pilot (I was an enlisted aircrewman). The last time I landed at Anderson, we brought blankets, food and supplies for refugees in mid 74 (I think). What a tumultuous time that was.
Those who live up to the ethos of the Oath Keepers will always have my respect and gratitude. Theirs will be a path fraught with danger, and their legacy will be that of the men who flew B25’s off the Hornet, and the men from Gonzales.
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