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Para-ordnance P12

Posted on 07/24/2010 6:55:21 PM PDT by blackbart.223

I have a Para-Ordnance P12. There are some that claim they have trouble with jams. I never had a problem with mine. Any comments?


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To: yarddog
"It is my Brother’s only gun. He does not fire it a whole lot but says it has been completely reliable. Not sure what ammo he uses, probably the cheapest he can find.

I only use 230 gr FMJ because that what the gun was designed for.

21 posted on 07/24/2010 9:12:46 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: KarinG1
"I have a Toyota. It’s never raced out of control. You?"

Dodge Ram.A good truck in my opinion.

22 posted on 07/24/2010 9:18:30 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mariner

“And while I like .45 1911’s, they are dated”

I prefer to think of them as timeless.....

Flawless service for nearly 100 years, and the pistol of choice for most Special Operations Military guys......

Good enough recomendation for me!


23 posted on 07/24/2010 9:24:29 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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To: NVDave; blackbart.223

Zactly.

Sometimes a gun needs a little work on the ramp and you have to know what works in yours.

My Kimber loves everything and after 4000 rounds I had only one stove pipe on me.

I figured out why, the other day and shouldn’t happen again.

My Colt 1911 doesn’t care for hollow points and I haven’t gotten around to getting that fixed, because I love the Kimber.


24 posted on 07/24/2010 9:26:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Forty-Niner
"Flawless service for nearly 100 years, and the pistol of choice for most Special Operations Military guys......

If it isn't broke don't fix it.

25 posted on 07/24/2010 9:29:37 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Forty-Niner
"Flawless service for nearly 100 years, and the pistol of choice for most Special Operations Military guys......"

The .45 is the CALIBER of choice for Specops, but NOT the 1911 variety.

H&K and like modern DA pistols get the nod.

26 posted on 07/24/2010 9:32:22 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: blackbart.223

“If it isn’t broke don’t fix it.”

Got that right.... My Colt .45 it keeps me alive! (ACP that is)


27 posted on 07/24/2010 9:32:47 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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To: mamelukesabre

Wow. A lot of work.

I think I will just buy a Ruger.

Load bullets, pull the trigger, bang - first time, every time.

Reloads, good ammo, you name it.


28 posted on 07/24/2010 9:34:27 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: blackbart.223
My buddy has the 9mm Para Ordnance Taurus. The thing is absolutely bulletproof. Never jams, even with cheapo ammo. He loaned it to me for a little more than a year a while back, and I absolutely loved it. What a machine. Thousands of rounds, never once jammed.

;-/

29 posted on 07/24/2010 9:34:58 PM PDT by Gargantua (The "Second Death")
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To: Vendome
"My Colt 1911 doesn’t care for hollow points"

In my opinion most jam problems with 1911 pistols is using the wrong ammo. If you want to use hollow points stick with a revolver. No jams there.

30 posted on 07/24/2010 9:37:18 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223
My buddy has the 9mm Para Ordnance Taurus. The thing is absolutely bulletproof. Never jams, even with cheapo ammo. He loaned it to me for a little more than a year a while back, and I absolutely loved it. What a machine. Thousands of rounds, never once jammed.

;-/

31 posted on 07/24/2010 9:38:16 PM PDT by Gargantua (The "Second Death")
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To: Frantzie
"I think I will just buy a Ruger."

Which model? A revolver I assume.

32 posted on 07/24/2010 9:44:32 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mariner

“The .45 is the CALIBER of choice for Specops,, but NOT the 1911 variety.”

Sorry to dispute that, but Marine Corps Armory guys build a SOC pistol from existing 1911A1 stocks that is in very high demand among the MEB SOC troops, so much so that they have always been way behind meeting that demand.

Any combat veteran will tell you (well most will tell you) that the 1911A1 is king.


33 posted on 07/24/2010 9:45:40 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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To: blackbart.223

Kinda sorta true. My brother has an XD. It didn’t care for hollow points.

Thing is, it is important to him to have hollows.

Took it to a gun smith, polish it.

Shot it, with hollows. I thought a couple of jams on 500 was okay, but then again, I have none on the Kimber.

He wasn’t satisfied.

Took it back to the gun smith, polished again.

Ran 500 rounds through it, zero failure. Cleaned it.

Took it out again, ran 500 through it, no problemo and now he is happy the gun will perform it’s intended function.

Sometimes you have to do some work on a gun to get what you want out of it, exactly.

My 770? Love it, except the butt plate. After only a few rounds, I was flinching and thinking this cheap ass piece of rubber must have come off a tractor.

It was throwing my rounds off by 5”, due to the flinching. It really hurt and I was surprised, since I had shot many other weapons with steel butts and no problemo.

Went and got a slip over butt extender and got my groups back down to 1” but I hated that cheap ass looking slip over.

Spent $70 on a nice extender and it just plain feels better.

I am thinking about getting a cheek weld, as I don’t care for how I have to shift around to get it right.’

But, other than that, I am now happy with the setup and my Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40mm. (couldn’t stand that cheapass scope that came with rifle. Tossed it in storage, if I ever neeeeeed it. Not)

Love it!


34 posted on 07/24/2010 9:53:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Forty-Niner

John Moses Browning was a genius at gun design. The fifty caliber heavy machine gun is still in use today. So is the 1911A1.


35 posted on 07/24/2010 9:53:34 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Forty-Niner

1911A1 is king. But, if you want to take some skin off a knuckle chamber a Kimber.

That spring is pretty damn stiff compared to my 1911 and I like em both.


36 posted on 07/24/2010 9:56:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
"Thing is, it is important to him to have hollows."

Why?

37 posted on 07/24/2010 9:57:02 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

‘Spansion...

double tap, cavitation.


38 posted on 07/24/2010 9:58:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Quickgun

The cartridge path has got to be SLICKER-N-SNOT.


39 posted on 07/24/2010 10:00:47 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Mariner

“The .45 is the CALIBER of choice for Specops, but NOT the 1911 variety.”

LAPD likes em too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEU(SOC)_pistol


40 posted on 07/24/2010 10:01:42 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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