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Woolly mammoth extinction 'not linked to humans'
BBC ^ | August 17, 2010 | Pallab Ghosh

Posted on 08/18/2010 11:32:29 AM PDT by decimon

Woolly mammoths died out because of dwindling grasslands - rather than being hunted to extinction by humans, according to a Durham University study.

After the coldest phase of the last ice age 21,000 years ago, the research revealed, there was a dramatic decline in pasture on which the mammoths fed.

The woolly mammoth was once commonplace across many parts of Europe.

It retreated to northern Siberia about 14,000 years ago, where it finally died out approximately 4,000 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; mammoth; mammoths; mastodon; mastodons; siberia
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1 posted on 08/18/2010 11:32:30 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Sallie told Hallie ping.


2 posted on 08/18/2010 11:33:18 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Wow, it only took 4,000 years to clear these guys.


3 posted on 08/18/2010 11:34:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: decimon

So it was climate change?

That means that humans definitely caused their demise; only humans cause climate change.


4 posted on 08/18/2010 11:35:08 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: decimon

Why did I just think of Michelle Zero????


5 posted on 08/18/2010 11:35:19 AM PDT by geege
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To: DBrow

Yeah, when they invented fire, poof! There went the mammoth. All those caves, ya know and the smoke. It all comes back to not wanting to freeze and convenience for humans. The creeps.


6 posted on 08/18/2010 11:37:07 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: decimon

Ruminant herbivores survived, non-ruminants were wiped out.

Try proposing a theory explaining that.


7 posted on 08/18/2010 11:41:23 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: decimon
Interesting, but it must have then just been a coincidence that wherever man has arrived at lands previously uninhabited, there has been a major extinction of much of the mega-fauna?

I mean, the mammoth lived in North America for thousands of years, then Clovis man shows up, we see Clovis points stuck in the butt of mammoths, then we don't seem to find any more mammoths.

Now I am not saying that such evidence CONCLUSIVELY shows anything! But the extinction of much of the mega-fauna coinciding so clearly with human habitation seems to paint a compelling picture.

8 posted on 08/18/2010 11:45:29 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: decimon
Woolly mammoth extinction 'not linked to humans'

Well hell and here I thought it was due to neandrethals driving Ford Explorers and not worrying about their "carbon footprint." Next some one is going to say that global warming is the result of solar cycles and not our current standard of living.

9 posted on 08/18/2010 11:47:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Ya done a lousy job.

The WalMart parking lot is just full of mammoths.
Scientific Name: Hugeasseous Doordingerus

10 posted on 08/18/2010 11:52:00 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Republican Party was founded to Save the Union. Can it now Save the Republic?)
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To: decimon

I have always proclaimed my innocence.


11 posted on 08/18/2010 11:52:58 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: allmendream

Their regrettable habit of sticking Clovis Points into the gluteal region of Mammoths is exactly why there are no more Clovis People.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 11:53:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Republican Party was founded to Save the Union. Can it now Save the Republic?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

We be lookin’ for tuskers, not hippos.


13 posted on 08/18/2010 11:54:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: allmendream; Snickering Hound

These researchers have allowed their politics to damage their brains.

The large mammals survived multiple ice ages and end of ice ages for multiple millions of years. Man shows up - and they are gone in a few thousand years.

And not just in North America - in multiple locations planet wide.

And the theory is “climate change and grassland”.

Stuck on stupid.


14 posted on 08/18/2010 11:59:16 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Kenny Bunk

An absolute truth. I personally think that most of these people do not have a clue.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 12:03:49 PM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: allmendream

While man and mammoth were in the same neighborhood, it’s highly unlikely that a group of humans could have put the final hurt into the population with stone tipped weapons.

If it were true that primitive technology was sufficient to wipe-out swaths of mega-fauna, by that reasoning, elephants, rhinos and other similar mega-fauna should have become extinct by the time the first puff of gun powder reached the shores of africa.

Man didn’t become dominant by shooting from the hip or acting like tarzan.

The mere evidence of clovis points stuck in bones doesn’t demonstrate cause of death.

Our ancestors were pragmatic scavengers and not the foolhardy type to risk their lives (or the life of a hunting party member) to take down a mammoth when the abundance of smaller (less harmful) game was bountiful.

My 2 cents... or 2 clams as Fred Flintstone would insist.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 12:11:25 PM PDT by hkusp40 (NJ: The Laboratory of failed social experiments.)
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To: Little Bill

Mammoth, baby! It’s what’s for dinner.


17 posted on 08/18/2010 12:11:34 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Republican Party was founded to Save the Union. Can it now Save the Republic?)
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To: Snickering Hound
Ruminant herbivores survived, non-ruminants were wiped out. Try proposing a theory explaining that.

The Atlanteans had a green-tech society powered by lithium-based batteries. They carelessly discarded their lithium batteries on the steppes which poisoned non-ruminants. They got theirs in the end though.

18 posted on 08/18/2010 12:13:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

What do you do with a thousand pounds of left overs?


19 posted on 08/18/2010 12:18:23 PM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: hkusp40
“Acting like Tarzan?”

As a big fan of ERB, I have to tell you that we should all be so lucky as to have mankind “act like Tarzan”; i.e. as a responsible steward of the wild.

Whatever the logistics of extermination of megafauna with stone tipped weapons, the disappearance of many different species of mega-fauna over many different lands- that just happen to coincide with human habitation - seems to indicate that it really might not have been so difficult as you imagine.

20 posted on 08/18/2010 12:21:15 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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