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Critics outraged that EA's new game lets players kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan
Mercury News ^ | 08/24/2010 07:07:00 PM PDT | Patrick May

Posted on 08/24/2010 7:38:42 PM PDT by Pan_Yan

By allowing players to assume the role of Taliban fighters killing U.S. troops, Redwood City-based Electronic Arts may have crossed the line with its latest first-person shooter game, a line that Mountain View resident Karen Meredith says was drawn with the blood of soldiers like her only son.

"I don't see how shooting soldiers based on real Americans is entertainment while people are dying every day for this country,'' said Meredith, whose son, Army Lt. Ken Ballard, was killed in Iraq in 2004. "How can they say it's OK for someone to play the Taliban? You'll have people sitting at home, drinking beer, shooting at American soldiers, maybe missing, then starting over. Well, Ken didn't have a chance to start over.''

With the Oct. 12 release of "Medal of Honor" already generating blog buzz and pre-order waiting lists, EA is banking on the game's powerful narrative, realistic effects and multiplayer features to help the company regain some of the niche heft it once enjoyed.

With an Afghanistan backdrop and the option to play good guy or bad, gamers like Fernando Angeles can't wait to get their hands on the game. "It's fun killing people,'' said the itchy-fingered 13-year-old standing outside a San Jose GameStop store. "I get to roam around and feel like soldiers feel. I've played the bad guys before, but this will be even better because it's based on the real thing. You don't want to hurt other Americans, but you've got to win the game.

"Besides,'' the teenager said, "it's just a game. You're not really hurting anyone.''

Ballard's mother would disagree.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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1 posted on 08/24/2010 7:38:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
"Besides,'' the teenager said, "it's just a game. You're not really hurting anyone.''

Well, you're not anyone to me so I could say the same to you after beating you to a bloody pulp, kid.

2 posted on 08/24/2010 7:41:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Pan_Yan

KFL.


3 posted on 08/24/2010 7:42:27 PM PDT by An American in Turkiye
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To: Pan_Yan

I think you can just play as Taliban in the multiplayer versus modes, i.e. 8 people play as US, 8 people play as Taliban and you fight each other. The Call of Duty games already have this, and it’s no different than playing cops and robbers as kids.


4 posted on 08/24/2010 7:42:47 PM PDT by wvdmc
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To: Pan_Yan

EA is mounting a direct assault on American psychic!

This calls for direct action in the form of boycott, and certainly legal challenge, as well as civil suits for emotional damage by hero’s families!


5 posted on 08/24/2010 7:43:51 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

No, listen to me, it’s just for multiplayer versus. One team is US, one team is Taliban, and they fight. You guys are over reacting to something you don’t even know anything about.


6 posted on 08/24/2010 7:45:35 PM PDT by wvdmc
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To: wvdmc

I abhor today’s video games. Give me Street Fighter II or Gauntlet any day.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 7:46:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Pan_Yan
By allowing players to assume the role of Taliban fighters killing U.S. troops, Redwood City-based Electronic Arts may have crossed the line with its latest first-person shooter game

A line that was scuffed off the dirt when it was crossed at least as far back as 1997. But then idiot girbilists haven't done actual fact checking since before Walter Duranty.

8 posted on 08/24/2010 7:47:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Contact Us
Electronic Arts
209 Redwood Shores Parkway
Redwood City, CA 94065
Main: (650) 628-1500
Email: ir@ea.com

Investor Relations Contacts

Peter Ausnit
Vice President, Investor Relations

Mary Vegh
Manager, Investor Relations

Tanya Klaben
Investor Relations Coordinator

http://investors.ea.com/contactus.cfm


9 posted on 08/24/2010 7:48:24 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

You guys are idiots. Listen! In the game, you play as AMERICANS and you KILL THE TALIBAN! But when you and your buddies want to fight each other in the game, you need separate teams, so one team is the US and one team is the Taliban.


10 posted on 08/24/2010 7:50:34 PM PDT by wvdmc
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To: wvdmc

And *Gasp* some kids actually played the Indians when we played “Cowboys and Indians” as kids.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 7:51:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wvdmc

Ok maybe, but personally I think that families of hero warriors should be considered.


12 posted on 08/24/2010 7:51:41 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Pan_Yan
said the itchy-fingered 13-year-old standing outside a San Jose GameStop store.

First of all where are this kids parents, pretty sure the new MoH will get an M rating which means 17+, why is the store selling it to him.

Next up it would be a pretty darn boring game if there was no one playing the bad guys. Most of these games are geared towards multiplayer, so sorry but somebody has to be the bad guys. Unless they do what America's Army does and make both sides the good guys where they see the opposition as bad guys (but that still means someone is playing as the bad guys - if its ok for the US military seems ok with me). People need to know what to get outraged at and what not to.

So should we be outraged that all the older Call of Duty games allowed you to play *gasp* NAZIS oh noes the huge manitee...

Whats next ban red flag exercises cause some of the pilots have to pretend to be russians?

As the brat said its a game, go spend your efforts on dethroning King bambi, work for your local conservative and get them elected. Forget about the games, people know its not real.
13 posted on 08/24/2010 7:52:01 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Why in God’s Name do any Americans even bother to get up in the morning and put on clothes. Each new day is like being a baseball fan and finding out that Joe DiMaggio took bribes, threw games, was queer. Do people still live and breath or did we all die in the apocalypse an eternity ago and just been lying in our graves ever since going more and more mad, more and more insane and with no end to it.

EA can go to hell.


14 posted on 08/24/2010 7:55:39 PM PDT by februus
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To: J Edgar

It’s like kids playing cops/robbers or cowboys/indians, somebody has to play the bad guys.


15 posted on 08/24/2010 7:56:56 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: wvdmc; dfwgator; MrEdd
You guys are idiots. Listen!

I played Cowboys and Indians. I understand the concept. I understand what a multiplayer game is. I also understand that this is not pretending to be in the old west or WWII. Our soldiers are at war right now, the war portrayed in this game, even if our country continues to pretend they aren't. They are in bad places being shot at by bad people. I think you could forgo a little entertainment out of respect for them.

16 posted on 08/24/2010 7:58:48 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: wvdmc

“You guys are over reacting to something you don’t even know anything about.”

Not on Free Republic? I’m shocked!


17 posted on 08/24/2010 7:59:57 PM PDT by bassboy
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To: jimbo123

Thanks for the links. I just posted the contact info on my Facebook page.

Now to write the company a little “comment” of my own!


18 posted on 08/24/2010 8:00:11 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I would never play such a game, nor would I allow my kids, all I’m saying is that we have much bigger fish to fry.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our soldiers over there aren’t playing the same game.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 8:02:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wvdmc
...it’s no different than playing cops and robbers as kids.

You are unbelievably stupid if you think that.

20 posted on 08/24/2010 8:04:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: wvdmc

Stop playing video games and go read a book.


21 posted on 08/24/2010 8:05:07 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Pan_Yan
You will find that many of them ARE PLAYING THIS GAME.

It can be cathartic to engage an enemy that can sometimes be elusive - and blow the snot out of him.

Semper Fidelis

22 posted on 08/24/2010 8:06:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wvdmc
You guys are idiots. Listen! In the game, you play as AMERICANS and you KILL THE TALIBAN! But when you and your buddies want to fight each other in the game, you need separate teams, so one team is the US and one team is the Taliban.

We get it. It's brain-dead stupid obvious, like all computer gaming. And in this case, for this subject, at this time, in this country, it's wrong.

Do YOU get it, idiot?

23 posted on 08/24/2010 8:06:41 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Degenerate. I f I say anything else I’ll get banned.


24 posted on 08/24/2010 8:07:26 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Truthsearcher

Ok maybe, but personally I think that families of hero warriors should be considered.


25 posted on 08/24/2010 8:08:26 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: wvdmc

Did you know that at the beginning of WWII only about 20% of the soldiers could bring themselves to shoot at another human being? Did you know that they had to desensitize them by having them shoot at human outlines and practice bayoneting on dummies? Did you know that using desensitization techniques like that they raised the rate to 95% by Vietnam?

Now, how much less desensitized to REAL killing are today’s youth after “killing” each other on super realistic video games? How many of them have never been hunting or been to a working farm and actually killed an animal and understand what it means?


26 posted on 08/24/2010 8:09:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: dfwgator
some kids actually played the Indians

Some even had bows and rubber tipped arrows, and feathered headdresses!!!

27 posted on 08/24/2010 8:12:18 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 8:14:23 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: battousai

As an avid BF2 player, my Kalashnikov killed plenty of Marines. There is an American flag in front of my house, I keep myself geopolitically aware and I have been a Libertarian Conservative since 1999. It’s just a game people.


29 posted on 08/24/2010 8:18:04 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism-Steve Hamel.)
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To: MrEdd

As an active duty member of the military, let me agree with you. The Call of Duty series games and Medal of Honor games are highly popular with the troops. Of course, Modern Warfare 1 and 2 both have troops versus terrorists in multiplayer as well, and MW 1 has been out for over 5 years.

All of the people on this thread, talking about how “offensive” this is to the troops, are ignorant. I can guarantee you that three fourths of the troops below E-6 have either Modern Warfare 1 or 2. In the multiplayer game, playing as a terrorist simply allows you to distinguish between friendly and enemy soldiers. I guess that troops versus Hippies or Redcoats weren’t as popular in testing.

It’s no different than Call of Duty: World at War. In multiplayer, it randomly assigns you to play as the Americans, Japanese, Soviets, or Nazi Germans in multiplayer depending on the map (it’s always US vs Japan or Germany vs Russia). Guess that makes me a Communist/Nazi/Imperial Japanese warmonger, according to everyone’s logic here.

I don’t own any of these video games. I’m too old for that crap. When I do shoot guns, I shoot the REAL ones I own with REAL ammunition at the range. But some of the reactions on this website are ridiculous and obviously uninformed. Don’t give the DUers something else to make fun of us about.


30 posted on 08/24/2010 8:28:52 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: The Black Knight
I served three tours, and got out after the Soviet collapse in 1991.

I played everything from strategic simulations with thousands of cardboard counters to the crude computer simulations of that day.

Not much has changed.

31 posted on 08/24/2010 8:34:09 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Real gamers play TF2

32 posted on 08/24/2010 8:36:37 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

Because where else can you play an explosively-inclined one-eyed alcoholic black Scotsman?


33 posted on 08/24/2010 8:48:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Flip Wilson’s 1967 album, “Cowboys and Colored People”, was nominated for a Grammy. Wonder how it would go over these days?


34 posted on 08/24/2010 10:03:06 PM PDT by Cherrybark (Flint, Texas)
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To: Pan_Yan

In EA’s Bad Company 2 multiplayer, Russian team vs American team. This is a non issue.


35 posted on 08/24/2010 10:16:27 PM PDT by RonboTex (Get off my lawn!!!!!!!!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Because where else can you play an explosively-inclined one-eyed alcoholic black Scotsman?

Aye...where else indeed, Laddie?

36 posted on 08/25/2010 7:12:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fearless person cannot be controlled.)
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