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Vanity: Please tell me which LCD TV to buy....

Posted on 09/13/2010 6:33:23 AM PDT by StrictTime

I'm just numb from doing research, so I'm opening up the floor to take suggestions from FReepers.

I hate to think that I'm going to be dropping $2K on a TV that has a life of 2 years (Samsung, Vizio, according to the interwebs). Looking for a 46" LCD with a matte screen (brightly lit room).

Anyone actually happy with a brand/model? Mostly interested in comments about reliability, since I HATE shopping for stuff like this every couple of years.


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1 posted on 09/13/2010 6:33:25 AM PDT by StrictTime
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To: StrictTime

I’m not a good one to ask. I’m still watching the Mitsubishi (sp?) television I bought in 1980. It works fine for me. Someday I’ll get a new one whenever this one finally dies.


2 posted on 09/13/2010 6:36:56 AM PDT by alicewonders (Supporters of John McCain are supporters of amnesty. Amnesty by any other name is still amnesty.)
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To: StrictTime

Whatever you buy, get it at COSTCO because they extend the Manufacturers Warranty to TWO full years for FREE.


3 posted on 09/13/2010 6:37:45 AM PDT by bt579 ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack 0bama)
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To: StrictTime

ping las vegas dave. he posts on this subject.


4 posted on 09/13/2010 6:40:07 AM PDT by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: StrictTime

Shop Costco, Best Buy or Sams Club.

Buy a Vizio or LG.

Can’t go wrong.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 6:41:19 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: StrictTime
You may want to spend some time at www.AVS.forums.com

You are able to research through many forums regarding specific reviews/actual experiences with the latest Audio/Visual technologies.

6 posted on 09/13/2010 6:41:30 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (It's the 'Land of Opportunity'... NOT... the 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: StrictTime

Samsung are the very best!


7 posted on 09/13/2010 6:41:54 AM PDT by avacado
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To: StrictTime
I've owned a Sony 42" LCD for five years and I have no complaints. The matte-finish screen was an important factor.
If I were to buy today, using your criteria, I'd probably go for the Sony BRAVIA 46" ... 1080p, 120Hz, LED-LCD HDTV.
Personally, I'm waiting for the 3D market to mature and eliminate the need for glasses. Probably a couple of years before the technology and right price come together.

8 posted on 09/13/2010 6:42:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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We purchased a 52” Vizio and have had no problems. Ours was from Sam’s and cost just over $700 so I think your dollar figure it’s going to cost is rather high unless you’re going for a high end model with split screen, etc. Ours works fine, we purchased it 17 months ago and have never wished we’d gotten something else.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the info that they will only last around 2 years ~ I inspect hotels and have been seeing these sorts of TVs for around 4 years now and very few have needed replacement. This is one of the questions I tend to ask, more so I have information for other owners asking me than for any other reason.

In fact, that said, I’ve heard no complaints from hotel owners on any brands and believe me, I’ve seen just about every brand that is out there.


9 posted on 09/13/2010 6:42:28 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: StrictTime

We’re still watching an old tv, because the newer styles, especially the HDTV, give our daughter migraines.


10 posted on 09/13/2010 6:42:34 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: StrictTime
Try this link and website:

Consumer Search

They do an excellent job of aggregating and analyzing product reviews. Based in part on their recommendation, my brother recently purchased a Samsung LCD in the size you have in mind. After eight months, he could not be happier.

11 posted on 09/13/2010 6:44:30 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: StrictTime
After much research I just bought this one and LOVE IT! Samsung UN55C6500 55″ LED TV http://www.un55c6500.net/ Save yourself money and buy it online.
12 posted on 09/13/2010 6:45:29 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: StrictTime

I did a lot of research about 18 months ago, I ended up buying a Sharp Aquos from Costco. Beauitful picture, no problems with it at all.


13 posted on 09/13/2010 6:45:35 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: StrictTime

Never had a problem with LG, but there are a lot of good brands out there, so take price into consideration. Costco is the place to go.


14 posted on 09/13/2010 6:49:03 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: avacado

My 19 inch “Portable” Sony Trinitron, with the push buttons for each channel is doing just fine.

(By a 47 or 46 inch LCD for less than a 1,000 bucks.)


15 posted on 09/13/2010 6:49:41 AM PDT by mfish13
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To: StrictTime

I have a 46 inch Samsung that is almost 3 years old and I’m still happy with it. When I bought it they had the identical TV in both matte and glossy and I bought the matte version. It had a contrast ratio of 15,000:1 in matte and the glossy was 25,000:1. 15,000:1 was fine.

Last year my son bought a Samsung 32 inch I think about the minimum contrast ratio now is 50,000:1. I know a relatively cheap Samsung 24 inch I bought last year for my camper (haven’t installed it yet) had that contrast ratio.

My sister also bought a Samsung last Christmas on my recommendation and she is quite happy with it.

Bottom line, I don’t think you will go wrong with Samsung. And you should be able to buy a 46 inch for considerably less than $2000. Best Buy has one right now for $1099 (not sure if it’s matte or glossy).


16 posted on 09/13/2010 6:50:14 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: avacado

Ditto on Samsung. I have the 55” LED Series 8 for about 9 months. It has been fantastic.


17 posted on 09/13/2010 6:50:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: StrictTime

The LCDs seem to have a better lifespan than the much vaunted plasma screens.


18 posted on 09/13/2010 6:50:31 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: StrictTime

Go with LG, we have three and they are superb.


19 posted on 09/13/2010 6:54:55 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: StrictTime

You might go to komando.com, use her search window and search for “LCD TV.” Kim always has some great ideas and it will only take you a few minutes to use her expertise.


20 posted on 09/13/2010 6:55:03 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: StrictTime

I bought my 42 inch Sony Bravia z-series from Amazon.

Outstanding Mexican assembled quality.


21 posted on 09/13/2010 6:57:42 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: StrictTime

http://reviews.costco.com/2070/11314986/reviews.htm

We bought this one two years ago and it’s been great. My husband loves the motionflow and I love getting streaming netflix over the Internet Video Link. There are better options if you pay for them, but the link was free and we like it.

We bought a Sharp LCD from Costco and lived with it for two days, but ended up taking it back as picture quality wasn’t up to snuff. No problems on the return, and we got the Sony instead.


22 posted on 09/13/2010 7:05:53 AM PDT by Eepsy (www.pioacademy.org)
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To: StrictTime

Let me see if I understand your problem. You want to know which tv to pay thousands of dollars for in order to see lame ass sports and tv shows that force you to watch their commercials that will get you to spend more money? All while you numb your mind and rot your productivity and creativity?

Okay guess it doesn’t matter which one.


23 posted on 09/13/2010 7:07:49 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: StrictTime
I just bought a LG 55” LED. I love it. I got it online at Best Buy. They had it on sale for $1797.00, and they were offering a wi- fi blue ray included. (350.00 value).

I really didn't want the blue ray, but free is free. However, the blue ray showed up at full price in my shopping cart, and the TV was discounted down to $1447.00.
So, I ordered both, and returned the blue ray to the store for a full $350.00 credit.

Best Buy does things like that all the time. Sometimes you need to play around with things in your shopping cart to find really great deals.

24 posted on 09/13/2010 7:09:23 AM PDT by kara37
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To: StrictTime
I have a Vizio 47 inch LCD. it show the stammering Cowboys defeat quite impressively last night.
25 posted on 09/13/2010 7:09:33 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Profit should not be a dirty word in these United States of America)
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To: avacado
I'm glad you've had luck with Samsung products. I've had nothing but trouble. I bought a Samsung 50 inch HD rear projection TV in 2005, and within the first year, I had to have the fan replaced, and pay to have the bulb replaced. Thankfully, I took out the extended 5 year warranty when I bought it. It needed extensive service two more times after that. At least I got my money's worth out of the warranty. I understand that Samsung doesn't produce the rear projection screen TVs anymore. The picture has always been great, but the quality of the product, and its need for continued service turned me off Samsung. The warranty has expired now, and I'll keep this TV until it costs too much to fix it.

I had also bought a Samsung home theater from Circuit City, and took the warranty out on that too. It's a good thing I did, because the DVD player was in the shop 4 times for repair in the first two years I'd had it. This spring the damn DVD player burned out. I called the warranty service, faxed in a copy of the original receipt, and they sent me a refund for the full purchase amount.

26 posted on 09/13/2010 7:25:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: avacado

42” samsung here. Love it! Great pic from all angles in all lighting conditions. After reading all of the reviews, shopped online for best price and got it for under $500! Must admit that we hooked up an inexpensive (under $100) sound system that we already had and use that instead of the TV’s internal speakers.


27 posted on 09/13/2010 7:26:28 AM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (Biden10/19/08: "I probably shouldn't have said all this because.. the press is here")
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To: StrictTime

I have a Mitsubishi 60 inch DLP that is great.. replaced the bulb 1 time in 3 yrs and it was under warrenty.. but if your set on LCD The concensus on this thread is probably correct


28 posted on 09/13/2010 7:28:20 AM PDT by garykfd (American by Birth, Southern by the Grace of God)
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To: StrictTime

I’ve been disappointed with Visio. While low-price, the general cheapness gets annoying after a while, especially the inconsistent lighting. After lots of study and gnashing of teeth, in the end I just picked an LG over a Samsung for my last 32” buy. You can’t go wrong with either, and they have good prices too.

If you are only using it as a TV, 1080p is pretty much wasted at normal viewing distances on anything smaller than around 50” IIRC since your eyes can’t distinguish the pixels. So if you’re not getting a big one you can save money and get a 1080i/720p. A 120Hz TV is a good buy since content at 24 frames per second (film movies), 30fps (TV) and 60 fps (also TV) go into 120 evenly, meaning all the added intermediate frames are evenly spaced. This is especially true for fast-action content. A TV that only does 60 Hz may not be as good on 24fps content because of the irregular adding of frames required.


29 posted on 09/13/2010 7:39:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: mass55th
I'm talking about Samsung LCD HDTVs. They are the very best. I have a 2005 42" that still works like a champ. The new Samsung LCD HDTVs are second to none in black contrast etc.
30 posted on 09/13/2010 7:43:54 AM PDT by avacado
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To: bt579

Ditto on COSTCO for the Warranty — They took back my Vizio due to a Wii remote impact (less than 30 days), so I am pretty loyal to them.


31 posted on 09/13/2010 7:45:01 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: callthemlikeyouseethem

Yep, I have a 2005 42” Samsung and it still works like a champ!


32 posted on 09/13/2010 7:45:03 AM PDT by avacado
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To: antiRepublicrat

Does anyone know of a method of getting those pop up ads for shows, etc. off of the bottom of the screen. It is so distracting to see some actor from another program appear on the bottom corner to advertise their show. I hate to have to tape a 6” strip across the bottom of my screen to keep that c&@p out of view.


33 posted on 09/13/2010 7:49:27 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: pingman

Since modern plasmas have a half life of several decades, I imagine an LCD lasting longer than that is a moot point. After twenty years I’d want to buy some newer tech.


34 posted on 09/13/2010 7:50:53 AM PDT by Varda
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Does anyone know of a method of getting those pop up ads for shows, etc. off of the bottom of the screen.

Watch a channel that doesn't use them? Sorry, that's about all you can do.

35 posted on 09/13/2010 7:52:54 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: StrictTime

I second the tip of spending time on AVSforum. Since I found that site I’ve been very happy with every electronics purchase I’ve made.


36 posted on 09/13/2010 7:52:59 AM PDT by Varda
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To: StrictTime

Samsung... Oh, and go with LED.


37 posted on 09/13/2010 8:03:32 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: bt579

Another vote for Costco. I had a 42” LCD fail after about a year and a half. For some reason, the manufacturer did not want to repair that model. Costco gave me a full refund and took it back.

I turned around and bought a 47” Vizio with an AMEX card, which adds another year warranty to the 2 year Costco warranty.


38 posted on 09/13/2010 8:04:33 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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Been there, done that. We bought a 47” Visio that we dearly love. And we bought it at Costco in case it failed for some reason.
We thought we were limited to a 46” size, but the dimensions just fit in our entertainment center.

Good luck.


39 posted on 09/13/2010 8:05:15 AM PDT by CommonJudge (Captions on, for the hearing impaired, haha)
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I am quite pleased with my 26" Toshiba from Sam's that I have had for 2 years.

26"??? Yes. I don't like room-filling screens, and the 26" wide-screen replicates the screen height of the 19" Sony that died and the Toshiba replaced.

Something to consider is the number and kind of connections into the tv. These tvs have on-screen signal source menus, and if you have a variety of inputs (antenna, DVD player, recorder, VCR) you want to be able to connect them all.

Antenna??? Yes. If you have an outdoor antenna, you want to try it with your new tv. Over the air pictures in digital are all or nothing--either you have a great picture or you have nothing.

If you don't have an antenna, and want to play with one, do a search for "Gray-Hoverman" antennas. That isn't a brand name, it's a design. I made my own Gray-Hoverman with a sheet of cardboard, wire, tape, and the appropriate cable and balun, put it in a window that faces the local channels and I have wonderful local over the air reception.

Most stations now have one or more subchannels, and they aren't all on cable--you only get them over the air.
40 posted on 09/13/2010 10:42:34 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: StrictTime

A plasma is better. Panasonics are good. I have one.


41 posted on 09/13/2010 10:44:18 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: StrictTime

You probably would like the Samsung LN40c630..this is a middle of the line LCD set, with a Matte screen, with 120 hz. I have this model, it has a perfect HD picture, NO motion blur..and the 40 inch model is going for around 800 dollars at FRYS at this time. (www.Frys.com) I did extensive research on LCD HD sets before I decided on this model.. it’s the best that I’ve yet seen. Here’s the FRYS webpage on this set =
http://www.frys.com/product/6179439?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

You may wish to look at “Audio/Video Science Forum” for some great information regarding LCD and Plasma sets (actually, they have information regarding all sorts of electronics).. go to www.avsforum.com When the website comes up, click the FORUM tab, then on the FORUM page, scroll down to the LCD section. It’s one of the best websites regarding HDTV sets because it’s so informative.


42 posted on 09/13/2010 2:32:18 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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I appreciate all the Samsung recommendations, but Samsung does not even offer a matte screen option anymore. A matte screen is necessary in the room ( wall of windows right next to the set). So Samsung is out.

Are there any LCD owners who have a strong preference regarding back lit or edge lit LED? Also, I'd love to hear from people who have experience with sets that are over 2 years old (not Samsung, because it's not an option at this point).

I think I have research fatigue. I have been to all the review/complaint sites and forums already, but do not have a clearer head about this yet. :(

Thank you to all the HELPFUL people who answered my question.

43 posted on 09/13/2010 3:06:25 PM PDT by StrictTime (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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Actually, the Samsung LN40C630 does have a semi-matte panel..we have a bright, sunlit living room, with a big window; the Samsung is in this room. The semi-matte screen is specifically designed to be NON-REFLECTIVE..so we can see the screen without having the window, or lights reflect in the screen..it’s a good design..I’ve seen the Samsung LN40C650 HDTV set..and other models as well.. these sets have CLEAR screens, they are very much like MIRRORS..highly reflective.

Have you actually taken the time to go look at these Samsung semi-matte screens, personally? If you haven’t seen them yet, I think you might be surprised. These semi-matte panels are very good, NON reflective screens.

Heres’ the thread for the SAMSUNG LNxxC630/C650 model on www.AVSFORUM.com = http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1234637


44 posted on 09/13/2010 7:40:48 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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To: StrictTime

For value go with a Vizio from Costco. We got one (47 inch) years ago - and really like it. The Bravia’s better quality - and again, go with Costco.


45 posted on 09/13/2010 7:46:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/the_power_of_images_turned_aga.html)
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To: StrictTime

I actually bought an LCD two days ago. It’s a 40” and I got it at Sears. I hate Sears—the salespeople are so inept. This guy had to keep running back to an unknown destination to confer with his manager. AND he knew nothing about the TV.

So, why did I buy it. I looked at it for 10 minutes and it had the absolute best picture of any TV in the store.

AND it had a tiny scratch on the pedestal and was on sale for $399.

As for the brand, I’d never heard of it, but it’s made by RCA. I’m afraid to look it up for fear ten people will testify that it broke two days after they got it.

That salesman was so lame, he didn’t even urge me to buy a service policy.


46 posted on 09/13/2010 7:52:30 PM PDT by altura
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To: StrictTime

We have a 52” Vizio. Had it going on 3 years, bought for
around $700.

The color and clarity are sharp. Never had a problem with it.


47 posted on 09/13/2010 9:36:12 PM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: TSgt

I just bought this UN55C6500 on the strength of your recommendation! $1800 from Amazon with free shipping for next 14 hrs. Hurry, only 6 left.


48 posted on 09/13/2010 10:25:39 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Royal Wulff

You spent $300 less than me!

Congratulations!


49 posted on 09/14/2010 4:05:31 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: Biblical Calvinist
Have you actually taken the time to go look at these Samsung semi-matte screens, personally?

They only have the reflective screens at Costco, which is the retailer everyone is suggesting for the warranty...

50 posted on 09/14/2010 7:28:37 AM PDT by StrictTime (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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