Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

DNA points to royal roots in Africa
MSNBC blogs ^ | September 8, 2010 | Alan Boyle, msnbc.com science editor

Posted on 09/19/2010 5:12:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

William Holland, a genealogical researcher living in Atlanta, has seen some pretty strange twists in his family tree. Several years ago, he found out that his great-grandfather was a black slave ... who wound up serving as a Confederate soldier during the Civil War. But this year Holland's research resulted in something even stranger. Thanks to DNA testing, Holland is being welcomed as a long-lost relative by a ruling family of the West African nation of Cameroon...

Holland plugged his genetic markers into a database provided by the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation, which draws upon GeneTree results as well as global genetic surveys... The freely available Sorenson database takes the family search to an extra level, by linking the genetic data with traditional pedigrees contributed by those who have been tested. What's more, Sorenson's researchers -- including Woodward, who serves as the foundation's executive director -- have added test results from places around the world that would otherwise be poorly represented in genetic databases. For example, about 12,000 of the 110,000 DNA samples in the Sorenson files have come from Africa...

Meanwhile, Woodward and other researchers are working to develop new genetic tools for tracing family connections. One method would check markers on additional chromosomes to "fill in close relatives, we're thinking within four to six generations, and reconstruct a relationship between two individuals who share a common ancestor," Woodward said... That could mark a significant leap forward for genetic genealogy. The tests conducted on Y chromosomes or mitochondrial DNA aren't powerful enough to detemine the precise relationship between two individuals.

(Excerpt) Read more at cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: africa; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; mtdna
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last
To: Drango

“For those interested in DNA and genealogy, Family Tree DNA, is a much, much better vendor than Sorenson. 90% of all genealogist use FTDNA.”

That’s where I got mine done. A real eye-opener.


21 posted on 09/19/2010 6:06:03 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Drango

Thanks, Drango!

I’m working on my genealogy but I’m so far behind the times! Thanks for the update!


22 posted on 09/19/2010 6:40:46 PM PDT by Monkey Face ("Eh, you crafty bastard, Eh." said the fairy. ~~ Arrowhead 1952 a la fanfan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: kalee

Before slavery became a life sentence, there were families of descendants of slaves who had been freed, or saved up money and bought themselves out of bondage, mostly during the 18th c. When the shooting started, some of them (and they were never numerous, and for obvious reasons were often all related by marriage or blood) tried to sign up in their state militias and whatnot, and were turned away. In the last year of the war, Lee (who contrary to myth was not opposed to slavery) asked the Confederate congress to allow recruitment of black soldiers, with the incentive that they would be freed after the war (IOW, they would enlist and serve as slaves, only winning their freedom after the war ended). Since it was Lee asking, it was passed. This measure resulted in a few hundreds of enlistments, out of a total in service in the various CSA forces of perhaps a million all told.


23 posted on 09/19/2010 6:43:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: kalee

...and y’know, somewhere around here I have a book about the families of antebellum free blacks...


24 posted on 09/19/2010 6:44:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Leo Carpathian

“Soooo...
like, after they match DNA of afreeky amerikans with their royal ancetors in afrika, will they go home?”

Yu kiddin, Bro? Black folks gots it so good here now.


25 posted on 09/19/2010 6:47:50 PM PDT by truth_seeker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Monkey Face

Put your surname into the search box at FTDNA (upper right). See if there are others tracking the same last name. With luck, there will be.

Then if you match up with someone else’s paper trail you *may* be able to leap back in time by piggy-backing off their tree. I added 200 years to my tree when I did this.


26 posted on 09/19/2010 6:48:43 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; agrace; AnalogReigns; Cacique; caryatid; Celtjew Libertarian; CobaltBlue; ...
Genetic
Genealogy
>> PING <<
Send FReepmail if you want on/off GGP list
Marty = Paternal Haplogroup O(2?)(M175)
Maternal Haplogroup H
GG LINKS:
African Ancestry
DNAPrint Genomics
FamilyTree DNA
GeneTree
Int'l Society of Genetic Genealogy
mitosearch
Nat'l Geographic Genographic Project
Oxford Ancestors
RelativeGenetics
Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation
Trace Genetics
ybase
ysearch
The List of Ping Lists

27 posted on 09/19/2010 6:51:33 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
I think that if I had been a black slave in 1864 I would have preferred to fight for the government that had issued the Emancipation Proclamation rather than one that wanted the institution to continue forever. There is a theory that the blacks who did volunteer to fight for the Confederacy, right at the end, intended to turn their guns on the Confederates once they were armed.

There were masters who took their body servants with them into the Confederate army, and I think there were cases of those servants taking part in battles, but they wouldn't have been officially regarded as soldiers.

Another possibility would be persons who had some African ancestry but who were able to "pass" as white--maybe DNA would be the only way to determine that there was some African ancestry.

28 posted on 09/19/2010 6:59:35 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Leo Carpathian
Not unless there a Walmart nearby and their houses have A.C.
29 posted on 09/19/2010 7:06:33 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Drango

My Tree goes back FOREVER!
It goes through the Royalty of Europe, so there is no question as to the “heritage.”

That is through my father’s line. My mother’s line is something else again.


30 posted on 09/19/2010 7:21:27 PM PDT by Monkey Face ("Eh, you crafty bastard, Eh." said the fairy. ~~ Arrowhead 1952 a la fanfan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

What kind of things does it tell you and if you were an orphan how can this help?


31 posted on 09/19/2010 7:26:30 PM PDT by celtic gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Regardless of our heritage, we are all slaves to U.S. national debt now. Kunte Kinte? Your name is Toby!


32 posted on 09/19/2010 10:10:24 PM PDT by Rodamala
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Verginius Rufus
there are volumes out there about slaves or freed blacks fighting on the CSA side in fairly large numbers

anyone can look it up

no need for anyone to be uninformed about it unless that suits them

i’d educate ya’ll but this ain't the thread

just google “blacks in Confederacy” and weed through all the PC garbage for truths...I actually have several books...one composed by a creole from New Orleans on a company of freed blacks

Bedford Forrest offered freedom to his slaves who fought with him and scores did and he did honour his word

I would address the Lee canard too but I don't wish to hijack an anthropology thread

ya'll can have at it...it's too late for a flame war and it never ends anyhow.....kids are just brainwashed today by the culture...I don't blame them really...folks are gonna believe what they have to or want to believe over race anyhow...truth is secondary

btw...you do know what precisely the Emancipation Proclamation did?...it purported to free only the slaves in territory the Federals did not control but kept those in areas of Union control enslaved till December of 1865 with the 13th amendment ..well after Appomatox....funny thing real history as opposed to perception

Link to proof here from an objective source

the truth will set you free as someone said..lol

33 posted on 09/20/2010 1:30:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: celtic gal

“What kind of things does it tell you and if you were an orphan how can this help?”

My father was adopted and I wanted to know his family origins. It will show you how many DNA matches you have with other people around the world. They have a feature on the website that will show you a map of the matches as well as getting a list. For myself I’m mostly Irish, Scots and Welsh.

If you sign up and list your email address other people that match your DNA can contact you. Many people are looking for relative.

I had the FTDNA and the MTDNA done. If you can get the 64 marker test.


34 posted on 09/20/2010 4:23:10 AM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

I know the village in Europe where my father’s ancestors lived for hundreds of years. I know the town in Germany where my mother’s mother’s mother’s mother’s mother was living in the 1830s. I don’t know if I would learn anything more from these tests. There are other parts of my ancestry that I would like to know more about, but the Y-chromosome line and the mitochondrial DNA lines are well-documented.


35 posted on 09/20/2010 9:01:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

Thank you... I wondered how that would work if you don’t have a known bio relative.


36 posted on 09/20/2010 9:04:32 AM PDT by celtic gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: JoeProBono

www.instantrimshot.com


37 posted on 09/20/2010 9:25:54 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: celtic gal

There is also a new test offered from Family Tree DNA called the Family Finder Test. It can be taken by either a male or a female. It can tell you who your cousins are back to 5th cousins. You get a list of names of other people who’ve taken the test and are matching up with you. Then you have to figure out who your common ancestor is with your matches. I’ve just purchased the test,but have not yet administered it.

If you want to know more, paste this link into your browser:
http://www.familytreedna.com/landing/family-finder.aspx?


38 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:09 AM PDT by Jessarah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Jessarah

thank you..I am going to look into this 4 sure


39 posted on 09/21/2010 9:49:40 PM PDT by celtic gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson