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Apple clobbers the competition—Commentary: The carnage of Apple’s spectacular success
Market Watch ^ | 09/24/2010 | By Ashley Allen and Douglas McIntyre

Posted on 09/24/2010 5:34:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Apple Inc. is a Death Star. It pulls in most of what comes into its orbit and either overtakes or assimilates it.

The success of the company is particularly spectacular because it is largely a four-product enterprise, consisting of the iPad, iPod, Mac, and iPhone. It also produces a suite of supporting software that includes its OSX, the Safari browser, iTunes, and the App Store. These non-hardware products knit together the “iProduct” universe.

Apple’s product line stands in stark contrast to tech giants like Microsoft Corp. (MSFT 24.75, -0.03, -0.10%) , Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ 41.02, +0.04, +0.10%) , Oracle Corp. (ORCL 26.96, -0.16, -0.59%) , and Cisco Inc. (CSCO 22.17, +0.08, +0.36%) , all of which have a multitude of product lines that spreads risk and increases sales opportunities. As a result, Apple’s revenue run rate, is only over $60 billion — much smaller than that of Cisco.

Some consumers are wondering whether a tablet like the iPad can replace a laptop for travel purposes. On a recent trip to Paris, Walt Mossberg decided to find out, saying au revoir to his laptop and relying on a tablet and smartphone for work and play.

However, despite the competition’s size, Apple’s market cap is $240 billion, more than those of Oracle and Cisco combined. Perhaps the thing that Wall Street loves most about the company is that it is growing quickly, especially for a company of its size.

The reason behind its growth is simple: Apple clobbers the competition.

The Blackberry

Amazon’s Kindle

Asus

Microsoft Windows

Mozilla’s Firefox browser

Sony

Adobe Flash

Google

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1 posted on 09/24/2010 5:34:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
Good God....is this Apple shareholder trying to bump up the value of his stock....AGAIN?????

Give it a rest,"swordmaker",we understand that you love Apple and own lots of its stock.

2 posted on 09/24/2010 5:38:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Market Watch has the explanation for Apple's phenomenal growth: Apple clobbers its competition! PING!

Please!
No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
PLEASE! Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
IGNORE THEM!!!

 


Apple Success Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

3 posted on 09/24/2010 5:39:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple has a target audience of people who want to do certain things ~ not all things ~ just certain things, and that's what they deliver to.

The customer base responds to that.

4 posted on 09/24/2010 5:43:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gay State Conservative

Swordmaker often posts negative articles about Apple.


5 posted on 09/24/2010 5:44:34 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Swordmaker

I love my new iPad! :-)


6 posted on 09/24/2010 5:45:08 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: BunnySlippers

Only to declare them FUD. He never admits they might be right.


7 posted on 09/24/2010 5:47:19 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Swordmaker

I hear Serious Materials is experiencing phenomenal growth, too.


8 posted on 09/24/2010 5:48:12 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: discostu

Not so. Go back and review.


9 posted on 09/24/2010 5:49:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: GOP_Lady
I love my new iPad! :-)

What do you use it for mostly? Does the touchscreen work well? I'm somewhat intrigues by it but I don't need another unused toy laying around.

10 posted on 09/24/2010 5:49:58 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: tacticalogic

Trolling, trolling ...


11 posted on 09/24/2010 5:50:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

It is so, I’ve seen his cheer-leading for years. All negative articles he or anybody posts he immediately declares FUD. Every single one.


12 posted on 09/24/2010 5:51:01 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: BipolarBob

I read a lot of articles, so it’s wonderful being free from a laptop/PC sitting back and relaxing in a nice chair or the couch. Steve Jobs was right about it being just that.


13 posted on 09/24/2010 5:52:09 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Swordmaker
Do you own Apple stock? Full disclosure is appropriate.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/24/2010 5:53:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BipolarBob
The touch screen and screen quality are great!

The speed is also very good with the WiFi here at home.

15 posted on 09/24/2010 5:53:51 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: BunnySlippers; Gay State Conservative; discostu
Swordmaker often posts negative articles about Apple.

Can you link one of these negative articles that he does not decry as lies or FUD?

16 posted on 09/24/2010 5:59:03 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers
Trolling, trolling ...

Getting any bites?

17 posted on 09/24/2010 5:59:28 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You are welcome to research. But I can assure you I will not exert the time on your command.


18 posted on 09/24/2010 6:01:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: tacticalogic

Just got one.
You.


19 posted on 09/24/2010 6:02:40 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: tacticalogic

Classic bubble... Lower revenue, lower profits, lower profit margin than Microsoft, yet a higher P/E and valuation. Add in the fact that Apple’s losing market share to Android, after barely breaking into the top 3 in terms of phones, and it’s in a bubble.

Yeah, the Apple fans will come on here and shout me down about how it’s all about profits; but what about Microsoft and Google, both of which have higher profit margins than Apple?

Apple’s really good at marketing their latest iMustHave to their existing customer base, and churning that cash on the same group. But their actual penetration in the smartphone market - or PC/computer market - is virtually unchanged over the years. They’re a bit player in both.


20 posted on 09/24/2010 6:02:40 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; tacticalogic

You folks are like the Sarah Palin haters. They go on the Palin threads to disrupt. There is no other reason to do it.

Don’t like Catholicism? Go on a Catholic thread to get a rise.

You are disruptors plain and simple.


21 posted on 09/24/2010 6:05:18 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

Hook’s still empty.


22 posted on 09/24/2010 6:07:50 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: BunnySlippers; Gay State Conservative; discostu; Swordmaker
You are welcome to research. But I can assure you I will not exert the time on your command.

So the answer is no, you won't. Because as we all know - they don't exist. In fact, the last "negative about Apple" post that Sword made was:

Apple Sued for the Sale of Video Programming on iTunes

Yet right in his very first "non intro" post he writes:

This patent is about production level invention that was obvious on it's face.

Basically calling it FUD. It very well may be! But that just proves the case:

Sword will never post anything negative about Apple, ever. He may post negative news about them, but he ALWAYS attacks it as FUD or not real or not worth worrying about...

23 posted on 09/24/2010 6:08:26 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers

You don’t take criticism well, do you?


24 posted on 09/24/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Because as we all know - they don't exist.

No, I'm saying you are welcome to spend Friday night researching. I'm not.

25 posted on 09/24/2010 6:09:47 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
...and you are just a whiny little titmouse! Try all you wish, but Apple will succeed and continue to provide cutting edge products to discriminating consumers. Try to be original, at least!

I am sure you are happy with your game machine in your mom's basement! We Apple users are happy with our choices! You should try supporting your choice rather than bitching about nothin' and lying about most stuff!!


26 posted on 09/24/2010 6:10:12 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Faith is putting all your eggs in God's basket, then counting your blessings before they hatch.)
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To: tacticalogic

You troll, disruptor. You have nothing to add.


27 posted on 09/24/2010 6:10:54 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers; tacticalogic

Sorry, I didn’t realize this was an Apple Love Fest thread... I thought that negative things about Apple were tolerated? That even Sword posts them?


28 posted on 09/24/2010 6:12:02 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

If you don’t like Catholics do you go on Catholic threads? If you don’t like Palin do you go on Palin threads.

You like to disrupt.


29 posted on 09/24/2010 6:13:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers; tacticalogic; discostu
No, I'm saying you are welcome to spend Friday night researching. I'm not.

You made the claim, and were called on it. If you choose not to back it up, then your implicit withdrawal of the claim is noted.

Have a wonderful evening!

30 posted on 09/24/2010 6:13:37 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

They are losing market share, but selling more phones. To say they aren’t selling iPhones to more than their base is inaccurate.

They will never dominate market share for a lot off reasons, but that doesn’t mean they won’t have moved beyond their base. And they did do a lot to explode the market for those companies who have a goal of market share dominance.


31 posted on 09/24/2010 6:14:15 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Swordmaker

The article is wrong about the Kindle. The iPad will have little effect on Kindle sales because it is so cheap, the battery lasts for weeks, it is light and works in more environments like outdoors/sunlight where the iPad is useless and too expensive to take to the beach.


32 posted on 09/24/2010 6:14:34 PM PDT by microgood
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You may spend your weekend doing it.

Do NOT have a nice weekend, troll.


33 posted on 09/24/2010 6:15:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
You troll, disruptor. You have nothing to add.

You mean like personal attacks and insults?

34 posted on 09/24/2010 6:15:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: WVKayaker; Swordmaker; for-q-clinton; driftdiver

I’m sure Sword would love to talk to you about your demeanor and attacks and words here. It’s been reported, please try to clean it up...


35 posted on 09/24/2010 6:15:45 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers

When they lie about Protestants or Buddhists or Jews, yes, I call them on it.

Like I called you on your claim.

Perhaps you would prefer an echo chamber? I’ve suggested several times in the past that an Apple caucus might be worthwhile since dissent is not tolerated.


36 posted on 09/24/2010 6:17:39 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: tacticalogic

You mean like your friends do?

You disrupt. Can you deny it? How are you not like a Palin hater on a Palin thread?


37 posted on 09/24/2010 6:18:17 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You disrupt. It drives you. Disruptor.


38 posted on 09/24/2010 6:19:29 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Mr. Blonde
They are losing market share, but selling more phones. To say they aren’t selling iPhones to more than their base is inaccurate.

I did not say that, did I?

I stated they are losing market share, and that is a proven fact. Do you dispute that?

39 posted on 09/24/2010 6:20:09 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; WVKayaker; Swordmaker

Hilarious! You always call out for reinforcements.


40 posted on 09/24/2010 6:21:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
If suggesting that the content of an article may not be all there is to a story, and that some measure of healthy skepticism might be in order when evaluting it is "being a troll", then maybe I am.

If that's being a troll, you know where the abuse button is. Push it and let's find out.

41 posted on 09/24/2010 6:23:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: GOP_Lady

We LOVE our Ipads. The touch screens are amazingly good. Apps run screaming fast. I’m actually on line and working before my desktop at the office even boots up.

Battery life is much longer than our old Dells too.

I’ve even installed a SIP phone app on mine so I can make and receive calls on it. I ran a 3 party conference call on it the other day at a customer demo. Dial my desk phone and the iPad rings anywhere I have a wireless or 3G connection.

Way cool that.


42 posted on 09/24/2010 6:24:55 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: BunnySlippers; WVKayaker; Swordmaker; for-q-clinton; driftdiver; TomServo

I pinged a few people to whom Sword has stated categorically that Apple fans never attack, never insult, that non-Apple fans are always the first to attack. You’re free to see posts just a few days ago where Sword re-iterated this claim as fact...

I thought the most recent proof of that fallacious claim would be worthwhile for them.

You may also see threads recently where a discussion between myself and others pinged immediately resulted in a “calling of the troops” by no less than Sword. Perhaps you can query him about it?


43 posted on 09/24/2010 6:25:02 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: tacticalogic

You disrupt. That is your purpose.


44 posted on 09/24/2010 6:26:03 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Lurker

Way cool that it is!

You think you have apps, huh?

Tell the lady of the house that I have the OPI app. Huh! ;-)


45 posted on 09/24/2010 6:28:08 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; antiRepublicrat

Like I said, you disrupt.

Your purpose is exactly like Palin-haters who INSIST on going on Palin threads.


46 posted on 09/24/2010 6:28:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers
You disrupt. That is your purpose.

Either I'm just a disruptor, or I offered an different opinion or perstective and you can't tolerate it.

If you report me for abuse and I'm clearly being disruptive, then it'll be decided, and that will be it. Isn't that easy enough?

47 posted on 09/24/2010 6:35:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: microgood

some of us don’t read outside, strangely enough. We play golf, swim, garden, walk our dogs, mow the lawn, or wash the car.

reading on the beach? nope, we read in bed at night instead of watching the tube, and appreciate the iPad for reading in the dark so we don’t disturb our spouses.

to each his own...


48 posted on 09/24/2010 6:35:44 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: tacticalogic; Swordmaker; antiRepublicrat

Why are you comically pleading for the abuse button? You are so transparent!

LOL!


49 posted on 09/24/2010 6:36:54 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; tacticalogic

How about you guys just stay off the Apple threads?


50 posted on 09/24/2010 6:37:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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