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This Day in Civil War History October 16th, 1859 John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry
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Posted on 10/16/2010 4:28:16 AM PDT by mainepatsfan

Civil War

Oct 16, 1859:

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry

Abolitionist John Brown leads a small group on a raid against an arsenal in Harpers Ferry, Virginia, in an attempt to incite an insurrection and destroy the institution of slavery.

Born in Connecticut in 1800 and raised in Ohio, Brown came from a staunchly Calvinist and antislavery family. He spent much of his life failing at a variety of businesses--he declared bankruptcy at age 42 and had more than 20 lawsuits filed against him. In 1837, his life changed irrevocably when he attended an abolition meeting in Cleveland, during which he was so moved that he publicly announced his dedication to destroying the institution of slavery. As early as 1848 he was formulating a plan to incite an insurrection, and he shared the idea with Frederick Douglass.

In the 1850s, Brown traveled to Kansas with five of his sons to fight against the proslavery forces in the contest over that territory. On May 21, 1856, proslavery men raided the abolitionist town of Lawrence, and Brown personally sought revenge. On May 25, Brown and his sons attacked three cabins along Pottawatomie Creek. They killed five men with broad swords and triggered a summer of guerilla warfare in the troubled territory. One of Brown's sons was killed in the fighting.

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To: mojitojoe
At least you didn’t even TRY to deny it Pansy dear.

And I notice that you didn't even TRY to deny that you're an idiot.

61 posted on 10/16/2010 2:51:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Molasses to rum to slaves, oh what a beautiful waltz
You dance with us, we dance with you
Molasses and rum and slaves

Who sails the ships out of Boston
Ladened with bibles and rum?
Who drinks a toast to the Ivory Coast?
Hail Africa, the slavers have come
New England with bibles and rum

And its off with the rum and the bibles
Take on the slaves, clink, clink
Hail and farewell to the smell
Of the African coast

Molasses to rum to slaves
‘Tisn’t morals, ‘tis money that saves
Shall we dance to the sound of the profitable pound
In molasses and rum and slaves

Who sails the ships out of Guinea
Ladened with bibles and slaves?
‘Tis Boston can coast to the West Indies coast
Jamaica, we brung what ye craves
Antigua, Barbados, we brung bibles and slaves!

Molasses to rum to slaves
Who sail the ships back to Boston
Ladened with gold, see it gleam
Whose fortunes are made in the triangle trade
Hail slavery, the New England dream!
Mr. Adams, I give you a toast:
Hail Boston! Hail Charleston!
Who stinketh the most?

Time to put an end to the self-congratulatory fairy tale of the North’s opposition to Southern slavery.


62 posted on 10/16/2010 2:52:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If every FR poster spent time denying your childish name calling....every time over the past 7 years... the damn servers at FR would crash. Have you EVER... ONE single day on FR, gone without calling someone a name? Now go ahead and say yes, make my day you angry, fool. Ok Mary, did I make it clear?


63 posted on 10/16/2010 2:55:34 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: mojitojoe
Time to put an end to the self-congratulatory fairy tale of the North’s opposition to Southern slavery.

And the myth that the South was anything but totally devoted to slavery and was hell-bent to maintain it for all time. That was the reason for your rebellion, the foundation of your society, and an end to it was your greatest fear. Still is, for all I know.

64 posted on 10/16/2010 2:56:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: mojitojoe
If every FR poster spent time denying your childish name calling....every time over the past 7 years... the damn servers at FR would crash.

ROTFLMAO!!!!! You are the last person to complain about other people calling names. Or to deny the truth in what I said.

Ok Mary, did I make it clear?

Hypocrisy is lost on you, I swear to God.

65 posted on 10/16/2010 2:58:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: mainepatsfan

one place I have never been to but it’s on my plans when I go to the Gettysburg 150 year anniversary re-enactment


66 posted on 10/16/2010 3:28:07 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Salamander

does all that stuff work? I ask because I have been watching local haunts etc and in this town we’re supposed to have many readings etc.
(St Augustine)

In the episode they had voices saying such things like they need to leave here referring to the hunters


67 posted on 10/16/2010 3:32:52 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

The more I read about him the more I am convinced .
Brown had little regard for human life and saw death as a means to his political gain.


68 posted on 10/16/2010 3:34:09 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You are the last person to complain about other people calling names

____________________

PROVE IT!!! Go through ALL of my past posts, post the times I called other Freepers names other than you. DO IT!


69 posted on 10/16/2010 3:42:37 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: mojitojoe
PROVE IT!!! Go through ALL of my past posts, post the times I called other Freepers names other than you. DO IT!

I notice you had to add the qualifier, mo-joe. So for the record, you don't deny calling other FReepers names, you just deny doing it to anyone but me. Do you also send other FReepers hate-filled FReepmails or am I the only lucky one?

70 posted on 10/16/2010 3:45:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: manc

I was at the 145th reenactment and it was one heck of a show.


71 posted on 10/16/2010 3:59:28 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Non-Sequitur

I believe that he was also convicted on five counts of murder.


72 posted on 10/16/2010 4:26:41 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I believe that he was also convicted on five counts of murder.

That and the conspiracy to foment a slave rebellion were enough to send him to the gallows. They didn't need the bogus treason charge.

73 posted on 10/16/2010 4:58:34 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Uh...ok.


74 posted on 10/16/2010 6:53:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: manc
Yup and I'm a total skeptic.

If you have an iPhone, download the app “iOvilus”.

It'll scare the hell outta you.

They also have *tons* of EMF apps that works as good as my pricey gizmos.

[YMMV...I can dowse with rods like nobody’s business so it might just be me]

Good luck and enjoy.

75 posted on 10/16/2010 7:21:10 PM PDT by Salamander (I can't sleep......the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Consider it denied. Troll doesn’t count because many that I called a troll were trolls and are now banned. I can assure you Bobby Jo, this is one contest you will win..... all the way back to to 2001.


76 posted on 10/16/2010 8:05:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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Secession Timeline
various sources

[Although very late in the war Lee wanted freedom offered to any of the slaves who would agree to fight for the Confederacy, practically no one was stupid enough to fall for that. In any case, Lee was definitely not fighting to end slavery, instead writing that black folks are better off in bondage than they were free in Africa, and regardless, slavery will be around until Providence decides, and who are we to second guess that? And the only reason the masters beat their slaves is because of the abolitionists.]

Robert E. Lee letter -- "...There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day. Although the abolitionist must know this, must know that he has neither the right not the power of operating, except by moral means; that to benefit the slave he must not excite angry feelings in the master..."
December 27, 1856

Platform of the Alabama Democracy -- the first Dixiecrats wanted to be able to expand slavery into the territories. It was precisely the issue of slavery that drove secession -- and talk about "sovereignty" pertained to restrictions on slavery's expansion into the territories. January 1860

Abraham Lincoln nominated by Republican Party May 18, 1860

Abraham Lincoln elected November 6, 1860

Robert Toombs, Speech to the Georgia Legislature -- "...In 1790 we had less than eight hundred thousand slaves. Under our mild and humane administration of the system they have increased above four millions. The country has expanded to meet this growing want, and Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Missouri, have received this increasing tide of African labor; before the end of this century, at precisely the same rate of increase, the Africans among us in a subordinate condition will amount to eleven millions of persons. What shall be done with them? We must expand or perish. We are constrained by an inexorable necessity to accept expansion or extermination. Those who tell you that the territorial question is an abstraction, that you can never colonize another territory without the African slavetrade, are both deaf and blind to the history of the last sixty years. All just reasoning, all past history, condemn the fallacy. The North understand it better - they have told us for twenty years that their object was to pen up slavery within its present limits - surround it with a border of free States, and like the scorpion surrounded with fire, they will make it sting itself to death." November 13, 1860

Alexander H. Stephens -- "...The first question that presents itself is, shall the people of Georgia secede from the Union in consequence of the election of Mr. Lincoln to the Presidency of the United States? My countrymen, I tell you frankly, candidly, and earnestly, that I do not think that they ought. In my judgment, the election of no man, constitutionally chosen to that high office, is sufficient cause to justify any State to separate from the Union. It ought to stand by and aid still in maintaining the Constitution of the country. To make a point of resistance to the Government, to withdraw from it because any man has been elected, would put us in the wrong. We are pledged to maintain the Constitution." November 14, 1860

South Carolina December 20, 1860

Mississippi January 9, 1861

Florida January 10, 1861

Alabama January 11, 1861

Georgia January 19, 1861

Louisiana January 26, 1861

Texas February 23, 1861

Abraham Lincoln sworn in as
President of the United States
March 4, 1861

Arizona territory March 16, 1861

CSA Vice President Alexander H. Stephens, Cornerstone speech -- "...last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the 'rock upon which the old Union would split.' He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact." March 21, 1861

Virginia adopted April 17,1861
ratified by voters May 23, 1861

Arkansas May 6, 1861

North Carolina May 20, 1861

Tennessee adopted May 6, 1861
ratified June 8, 1861

West Virginia declares for the Union June 19, 1861

Missouri October 31, 1861

"Convention of the People of Kentucky" November 20, 1861

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/ordnces.html

[Alabama] "...Whereas, the election of Abraham Lincoln and Hannibal Hamlin to the offices of president and vice-president of the United States of America, by a sectional party, avowedly hostile to the domestic institutions and to the peace and security of the people of the State of Alabama, preceded by many and dangerous infractions of the constitution of the United States by many of the States and people of the Northern section, is a political wrong of so insulting and manacing a character as to justify the people of the State of Alabama in the adoption of prompt and decided measures for their future peace and security... And as it is the desire and purpose of the people of Alabama to meet the slaveholding States of the South, who may approve such purpose, in order to frame a provisional as well as permanent Government upon the principles of the Constitution of the United States, Be it resolved by the people of Alabama in Convention assembled, That the people of the States of Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri, be and are hereby invited to meet the people of the State of Alabama, by their Delegates, in Convention, on the 4th day of February, A.D., 1861, at the city of Montgomery, in the State of Alabama, for the purpose of consulting with each other as to the most effectual mode of securing concerted and harmonious action in whatever measures may be deemed most desirable for our common peace and security." [Jan 11, 1861]

[Texas] "...The recent developments in Federal affairs make it evident that the power of the Federal Government is sought to be made a weapon with which to strike down the interests and property of the people of Texas, and her sister slave-holding States, instead of permitting it to be, as was intended, our shield against outrage and aggression..." [Feb 1, 1861]

[Virginia] "...the Federal Government having perverted said powers not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slave-holding States..." [Feb 23, 1861]

http://www.csawardept.com/documents/secession/AZ/index.html

[Arizona Territory] "...a sectional party of the North has disregarded the Constitution of the United States, violated the rights of the Southern States, and heaped wrongs and indignities upon their people... That we will not recognize the present Black Republican Administration, and that we will resist any officers appointed to this Territory by said Administration with whatever means in our power." [16 March 1861 -- Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President of the United States on March 4, 1861. The pretext for Arizona's secession was interruption of U.S. postal service.]

77 posted on 10/16/2010 8:37:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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78 posted on 10/16/2010 8:37:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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John Brown:
An address by Frederick Douglass
at the fourteenth anniversary
of Storer College, Harper's Ferry,
West Virginia, May 30, 1881
I rejoice that it is my good fortune to have seen, not only the end of slavery, but to see the day when the whole truth can be told about this matter without prejudice to either the living or the dead. I shall however allow myself little prominence in these disclosures. Your interests, like mine, are in the all-commanding figure of the story, and to him I con- secrate the hour. His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine -- it was as the burning sun to my taper light -- mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him. The crown of martyrdom is high, far beyond the reach of ordinary mortals, and yet happily no special greatness or supe- rior moral excellence is necessary to discern and in some measure appreciate a truly great soul. Cold, calculating and unspiritual as most of us are, we are not wholly insensible to real greatness ; and when we are brought in contact with a man of commanding mold, towering high and alone above the millions, free from all conventional fetters, true to his own moral convictions, a " law unto himself," ready to suffer misconstruction, ignoring torture and death for what he believes to be right, we are compelled to do him homage. In the stately shadow, in the sublime presence of such a soul I find myself standing to-night ; and how to do it reverence, how to do it justice, how to honor the dead with due regard to the living, has been a matter of most anxious solicitude.

79 posted on 10/16/2010 9:57:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

There was also some legal technicality about Joyce having taken out a British passport at some point and as a result having assumed an obligation of allegiance to the Crown.

He was therefore charged for treason only for his acts during a relatively brief period of time during which the legal technicalities were in effect.


80 posted on 10/17/2010 4:15:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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