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Venting about the Senate (go ahead and flame me)
Me | 11/03/2010 | Me

Posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:28 AM PDT by cartervt2k

Look, this was a good night in the House, but I can’t look away at all the missed opportunities in the Senate.

First off, we should be thanking our lucky stars John McCain won his primary in AZ. He sucks and is a RINO, but how would you like reading this morning that the ‘rats picked off Hayworth along with Angle going down and Christine O’Donnell losing by 17? This is a state that installed Big Sis as governor – you’re telling me they couldn’t have picked this up?

I’m taking odds on anyone who thinks Buck is going to pull it out in purple CO. Whatever you think about gay marriage, what the hell is he doing talking about it on Sunday morning talk shows when the ‘rats are sprinting from their record? Their agenda is imploding and you give them a sound bite on gay marriage?!

This is a year where our senate margins should have been wider than normal. Candidates matter. If the media can find anything on you, they will exploit it to the hilt – never more so the case in statewide races. If you are perceived as a weak candidate, the media will make you weaker. If anyone thinks beating Obama is going to be a breeze in 2012, they’re dreaming. Look at the way all of Harry Reid’s machinery and corruption carried him to victory last night. When was the last time Rasmussen showed him ahead? You’re telling me Obama is going to play it straight up? He’s just as sleazy and corrupt as Reid.

With the exception of Rubio (arguably our best new conservative ambassador) and Johnson (another strong candidate), look how close these pretty safe R pickups in PA and IL. The only reason Kirk won in blue IL is because he is a RINO that was fortunate enough to get the nomination before RINO hunting season opened, or we’d be talking about Senator Giannoulias along with Senator Coons. Rossi is an establishment guy, and look how close he’s been able to keep it in blue WA. If Angle were running against Murray, this one would have been called when the polls closed.

I’ve been on the record here about this before, but if you seriously value social issues, as I do, then you need to fight to win: get as many fiscal hawk R’s in power as possible (along with the social R’s in solid red states) to hold our majorities. They will appoint originalists to the courts, and we won’t have Sotomayors or Kagans creating abortion and gay marriage laws by judicial fiat. Or would you rather have smaller, concentrated numbers of R’s who will be helpless against activist courts? You decide.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: angle; buck; colorado; nevada
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1 posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:37 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: cartervt2k

You again Karl ???


2 posted on 11/03/2010 7:27:19 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Things that have never happened before, happen every day ....)
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To: 11th_VA

You again Christine?


3 posted on 11/03/2010 7:29:12 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: cartervt2k

Bravo

Angle and COD cost us 2 very winnable seats. Not getting the majority in the Senate is a dissapointment to me, this should have been a 12-13 seat win


4 posted on 11/03/2010 7:32:07 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: cartervt2k

We went 24 wins and 11 losses in senate races with 2 pending.

That’s pretty darn good.

If that’s disappointing to you then your bar for success was set too unrealistically high.


5 posted on 11/03/2010 7:32:57 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: cartervt2k

McCain should have lost the primary. The only good thing about him “winning” is that he will be spending his last term in office in the minority intead of chairing any committee. Add to that the fact that he didn’t win by near the margin he’s used to winning by (to a dem who didn’t bother to campaign against him). It was a real hoot.


6 posted on 11/03/2010 7:33:07 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: cartervt2k
Karl,

You're compromising spirit and approach is not longer wanted in the GOP.

Either get on board the Conservative Train or get out!
7 posted on 11/03/2010 7:33:35 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: cartervt2k
Deep breaths. Slowing the train wreck, however minuscule, is better than accelerating it. It seems to be more imperative to maintain the energy on the ‘newbies’. Gaining ground, however incremental, is the right direction.
8 posted on 11/03/2010 7:35:43 AM PDT by allmost
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To: cartervt2k
Sooo... you're saying Juan McLAim is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!!..

Prove it...

9 posted on 11/03/2010 7:37:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: cartervt2k

Interesting point of view, but the conclusion makes an assumption that doesn’t consider the all of the dynamics. Take CA for example - RINOs everywhere in a state that has been hit hard and people are hurting, and they lost after having a RINO governor. Is the reelection of Babbs not a lost opportunity? Or what about Schumer and Gillibrand in NY? Their opponents were RINOs. Two more lost opportunities right there.

I’d say that TEA candidaes not only had Democraps to fight off, but also the RINO establishment who stood on the sidelines and took potshots at them.


10 posted on 11/03/2010 7:37:35 AM PDT by dajeeps
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To: MadIsh32

It was a great day yesterday. Here in blue State Wisconsin we literally ran the table. Knocked out Feingold. Won the State legislature. Won the Governor. Knocked out two dem congressional seats.

All done with solid Tea Party endorsed conservatives. All great candidates. No RINO’s anywhere to be found.

Interestingly enough we were able to do all this without having Sarah Palin visit and help select our candidates and blessing them with her magic wand.


11 posted on 11/03/2010 7:37:44 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: 11th_VA
This is a year where our senate margins should have been wider than normal. Candidates matter. If the media can find anything on you, they will exploit it to the hilt – never more so the case in statewide races.

That's the truth, even though some around here don't want to hear it.

Rove is a friend, not an enemy.
12 posted on 11/03/2010 7:38:15 AM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: cartervt2k

My 6 yr old was really mad at me for not letting her eat Halloween candy for breakfast. No matter that she got some in her lunchbox, and was promised a piece after dinner. No, she whined and stomped and huffed and puffed, convinced that not having that candy now, right this instant, made what she DID get less enjoyable.

Know what I mean?


13 posted on 11/03/2010 7:39:20 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: cartervt2k

Let’s face reality. Even with all three of those seats (NV, CO, and DE), the GOP still loses the Senate on a tiebreaker (Biden), so it’s not like these candidates cost the GOP the Senate.

Despite her large loss, O’Donnell at least prevented a “Republican” Castle from being elected, which would have given Obama the “bipartisan” cover he needs on Cap & Tax and other issues. Tellingly, O’Donnell won independents but didn’t get enough GOP votes to win. Remember that the next time a RINO demands “loyalty” after a primary win.

Reid likely would have stolen the election from anyone, so running Angle wasn’t a net loss, either.

Buck may not have been the best candidate, but like the others, losing (or more precisely, not picking up) a few seats here and there, when the balance of power isn’t at stake, is a small price to pay to send a message loud and clear to the establishment GOP that it’s not just the ‘rats who are being targeted. The RINOs had better be worried, too. The Maine twins, Lindsey Graham, and others had better play “tea party” if they want to keep their jobs in the next couple of cycles.


14 posted on 11/03/2010 7:40:12 AM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: cartervt2k

Under it’s rules conservatives now control the Senate...
and you’re unhappy!

Heck, it’s a waste of time pointing out how silly your post is.


15 posted on 11/03/2010 7:43:13 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: allmost
“Deep breaths. Slowing the train wreck, however minuscule, is better than accelerating it. It seems to be more imperative to maintain the energy on the ‘newbies’. Gaining ground, however incremental, is the right direction.”

You have nailed it well. As for the post itself, I agree with much of what the writer is saying, but not the reasoning behind it. Taken to the extreme, the writer should be praising the sore loser Lisa Murkowski. Is there any doubt Miller would have won the seat without Lisa running. Let's hear it for Mark Kirk. Don't we all feel good that he won? Apparently, according to this writer, we should fill the senate with Mark Kirk's, McCain's, and Murkowski’s. Yeah, that's the ticket.

It was a bad night in the senate. But not because of the Tea Party.

16 posted on 11/03/2010 7:44:45 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: hosepipe

After an expensive medical procedure, a “party change operation,” John McCain looked to many like a Republican.
However, just like looking for the Adam’s Apple on transvestites and transexuals the socialism and gave his true nature away...

;)


17 posted on 11/03/2010 7:45:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: cartervt2k

Let’s be a little more measured about this. I originally didn’t want O’Donnell as the nominee and generally am someone who supports moderate Republicans in liberal states (at one point I supported Specter, a long time ago, and was a big Giuliani fan). Having said that, I have been frustrated during the Bush years that the “Republican” president and “Republican” Congress did nothing to advance conservatism and limited government. In fact, 2000-2006 were the warm-up for the Dem spending binge that we just had. Based on that, I’m a lot more willing to take risks on more conservative candidates if the choice is a Republican hack who has been in office for years vs. a raw but right on the issues conservative. Its still a balance though and you can’t put up any idiot just because he or she says the right things.


18 posted on 11/03/2010 7:45:29 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: kevkrom

Suppose the supreme court doesn’t pull out the rug on Obamacare. It took 60 senators to get it passed. Do you think it will take any less to get its repeal to a Republican president’s desk? Do you think we’ll close that gap anyway after the next election? What if Coons’s seat is #60?


19 posted on 11/03/2010 7:45:56 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: kevkrom
Despite her large loss, O’Donnell at least prevented a “Republican” Castle from being elected, which would have given Obama the “bipartisan” cover he needs on Cap & Tax and other issues.

Comment of the Day. +1000

20 posted on 11/03/2010 7:46:07 AM PDT by StrictTime (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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