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24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit
The American Dream ^ | 12/06/2010 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 12/07/2010 10:33:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Conservative Tsunami

I have an acquaintance that invented a medical device. It is staggering just how much money there is in medical supplies, treatments, etc. And that is even AFTER paying ludicrous malpractice insurance rates, etc.

There are some incredibly lame reasons why it costs $50-$100 per hour for things like a plumber, mechanic, etc. But an hour in an operating room can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. I suspect the whole thing will need to collapse in a way, and be rebuilt.

Just as it used to seem reasonable to pay $1200 for a CD player in a world where the average person made $25,000 a year, and then $35 was too much, I suspect we are coming to a day where paying more than a few hundred for a hip replacement will seem ridiculous. But first, the existing paradigm will have to collapse. And it will not do it voluntarily. It will have no choice if it wishes to survive.


41 posted on 12/07/2010 11:26:07 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

RE: I’ve been to Detroit and marveled at the street people going through garbage cans on the street in front of a bunch of closed down businesses.


The article states that you can buy a house in Detroit’s worst area for dollar ( that’s less than a standard MacDonald meal ).

If you’re an optimist and believe that something might rise out of the ashes ( like Hiroshima did ), you might want to consider investing a dollar ....


42 posted on 12/07/2010 11:26:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Fresh Wind
That is Insane. NoRKs' counterfeiting is NOT an accident; NONE of the destruction of this Republic is an accident. The ChiComs decimating the US economy and industrial base in not an accident.

Our own treasonous government has been betraying us for years. How much more evidence do we need? Beck can't do and say it all.

B. Hussein is just the punctuation mark.

43 posted on 12/07/2010 11:26:15 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: SeekAndFind
The article states that you can buy a house in Detroit’s worst area for dollar

"I'll buy that for a dollar."

44 posted on 12/07/2010 11:27:27 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Fresh Wind

All the professionals who have come to our country for education and jobs....are leaving as other countries are advancing and in better shape than we are. The ones staying are the undesirables...you can imagine if the International community determines America as a dumpingground for all their undesirables.....that is not hard to imagine with the Global Governance moving right along....the only Country where you can walk over the border without fear is the USA.


45 posted on 12/07/2010 11:28:40 AM PST by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

>>If you’re an optimist and believe that something might rise out of the ashes ( like Hiroshima did ), you might want to consider investing a dollar<<

Not there. Not yet. They would LITERALLY have to pay me to take over one of those properties. $20k MIGHT do it, but I’d have to do more research.

I would no more buy property in Detroit than I would buy property in Sudan. And for similar reasons.


46 posted on 12/07/2010 11:29:27 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: dfwgator

Here is the source for that piece of information (the UK GUARDIAN) :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/02/detroit-homes-mortgage-foreclosures-80

Detroit homes sell for $1 amid mortgage and car industry crisis

One in five houses left empty as foreclosures mount and property prices drop by 80%

by: Chris McGreal, in Detroit

Some might say Jon Brumit overpaid when he stumped up $100 (£65) for a whole house. Drive through Detroit neighbourhoods once clogged with the cars that made the city the envy of America and there are homes to be had for a single dollar.

You find these houses among boarded-up, burnt-out and rotting buildings lining deserted streets, places where the population is shrinking so fast entire blocks are being demolished to make way for urban farms.

“I was living in Chicago and a friend told me that houses in Detroit could be had for $500,” said Brumit, a financially strapped artist who thought he had little prospect of owning his own property. “I said if you hear of anything just a little cheaper let me know. Within a week he emails me a photo of a house for $100. I thought that’s just crazy. Why not? It’s a way to cut our expenses way down and kind of open up a lot of time for creative projects because we’re not working to pay the rent.”

Houses on sale for a few dollars are something of an urban legend in the US on the back of the mortgage crisis that drove millions of people from their homes. But in Detroit it is no myth.

One in five houses now stand empty in the city that launched the automobile age, forged America’s middle-class and blessed the world with Motown.

Detroit has been in decline for decades; its falling population is now well below a million – half of its 1950 peak. But the recent mortgage crisis and the fall of the big car makers into bankruptcy has pushed the town into a realm unique among big cities in America.

A third of the population are unemployed. Property prices have fallen 80% or more in large parts of Detroit over the last three years. The average price of a home sold in the city last year has been put at $7,500 (£4,900).

The recent financial crash forced wholesale foreclosures among people unable to pay their mortgages or who walked away from houses that fell to a fraction of the value of the loans they had taken out on them.

Banks are selling off properties in the worst neighbourhoods, which are usually surrounded by empty and wrecked housing, for a few dollars each. But even better houses can be had at a fraction of their former value.

Technically, Brumit paid $95 for the land and $5 for the house on Lawley Street – which fitted what estate agents euphemistically call an opportunity.

Brumit said: “It had a big hole in the roof from the fire department putting out the last of two arson attempts. Both previous owners tried to set it on fire to get out of the mortgages. So there’s a big hole about 24ft long and the plumbing had almost entirely been ripped out and most of the electrics too. It was basically a smoke damaged, structurally intact shell with a snowdrift in the attic.”

Setting fire to houses to claim the insurance and kill off the mortgage is not uncommon in Detroit; a blackened, wooden corpse of a house sits at the bottom of Brumit’s street. But it is more common for owners to just walk away from their homes and mortgages.

On the opposite side of Lawley Street Jim Feltner and his workers were clearing out a property seized by a bank. “I used to be a building contractor. I was buying up places and doing them up. Now I empty out foreclosures. I do one or two of these a day all over the city,” he said. “I’ve been in Detroit 40 years and I’ve watched the peak up to $100,000 for houses that right now aren’t worth more than $20,000 tops. I own a bunch of properties. I have 10 rentals and I can’t get nothing for them, and they’re beautiful homes.”

Feltner’s workers are dragging clothes, boots and furniture out of the bedrooms and living room, and dumping them in the front yard until a skip arrives. Kicked to one side is a box of 1970s Motown records. A teddy bear lies spreadeagled on the floor.

“You could get about five grand for this place,” said Feltner. “Nice house once you clean it out. All the plumbing and electricals are in it. Roof don’t leak.”

Brumit said a man called Jesse lived there. “Jesse had mentioned that he was probably going to get out of there because he knew he could buy a place for so much less than he owed. That’s a drag. You don’t want to see people leaving,” he said.

The house next door is abandoned. On the next street, one third of the properties are boarded up.

It’s a story replicated across Detroit.

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47 posted on 12/07/2010 11:29:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RobRoy
I suspect we are coming to a day where paying more than a few hundred for a hip replacement will seem ridiculous. But first, the existing paradigm will have to collapse. And it will not do it voluntarily. It will have no choice if it wishes to survive.

Inevitably, our new socialism will "re-calibrate" costs; So will the New World currency. The dollar is getting trashed and trashed purposely.

Welcome to The Thunder Dome, World Citizen!

48 posted on 12/07/2010 11:30:02 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: caww

RE: All the professionals who have come to our country for education and jobs....are leaving as other countries are advancing and in better shape than we are


Looks like our immigration system is the pits. What we want is to receive immigrants who are bright, educated, moral and talented.

We’re getting the opposite and the people we want are leaving. Go Figure...


49 posted on 12/07/2010 11:32:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RobRoy

I grew up in the suburbs of Detroit. Detroit is the Canary in the coal mine. Our nations problems are partly due to liberal policy for sure. But I believe that both parties are socialist, the Republicans hardly offer much of an alternative. Neither party is for small government. Both parties have the bankers best interest at heart.

Loss of value added manufacturing, the rise of a consumer and finance based economy will make America unrecognizable in 20 more years. The whole country will be like Detroit. Consumerism uses wealth and doesn’t create it. Finance shuffles money around, but doesn’t create wealth either.


50 posted on 12/07/2010 11:34:15 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: dfwgator
“South Dallas looks a lot like Detroit.”

That's true , but it looked like that way before Detroit looked like Detroit. Thanks to the Lord that I live “Where the West begins”.

51 posted on 12/07/2010 11:34:58 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: fella

That’s why RoboCop was actually filmed in South Dallas instead of Detroit.


52 posted on 12/07/2010 11:35:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: FightThePower!

You and I are in complete agreement on this. I, too, see Detroit as the “canary”. Fortunately, the “final outcome” there may scare the rest of the nation from following the same path. The Detroit debacle is only in the 7th inning. The rest of us are in the 4th.

Have you read the Fred Reed articles I posted in this thread? It is spooky (and frightening), especially considering they are all from around 8-10 years ago.


53 posted on 12/07/2010 11:39:44 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Reminds me of the time I had to get fuel and exited in East Saint Louis, Illinois. After going one block I decided to take my chances, I got back on the interstate and drove further east. Running out of gas on the interstate was the better/safer option than trying to find a gas station in East St. Louis. Made it to the next farmtown and fueled up. East St. Louis was/is a cesspool. Nothing but abandoned buildings etc... it looked like an episode out of Resident Evil.


54 posted on 12/07/2010 11:55:45 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: SeekAndFind
"Someone told me that Gary, Indiana is also bad, but I’ve never been there."

I live about 20 minutes EAST of Gary. I will send you some pictures of the downtown area so you can get a sample of liberal "fruitfulness".

55 posted on 12/07/2010 11:58:59 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: Conservative Tsunami

IE.

thanks Clinton!

China allowed into WTO. Dem ahole.


56 posted on 12/07/2010 12:36:34 PM PST by 1st I.D Vet
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To: Pessimist

There’s no crime in Ashtabula County to begin with, unless it occurs on I-90, which is the domain of the Ohio Highway Patrol. As for the county itself, it’s inhabited by a substantial Amish community and it gets 200+ inches of snow a year. Criminals avoid those conditions.


57 posted on 12/07/2010 12:44:22 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: 1st I.D Vet
Corporate America scratchin the backs of politicians favorable to the globalist agenda.

Outsourcing our manufacturing base to a country that is technically our enemy will come back to bite us.

Now we see corporate America bringing thousands of Chinese, Indians, Filipinos and so forth into America on H1B visa's to do the jobs Americans won't do.

With tuitions climbing at most major universities climbing the way they have, Americans don't stand a chance against subsidized college/universities in 3rd world countries.

I heard an Indian PHD say not long ago, the heck with the U.S. government. If they make it hard on me, I will just go back to India where I won't have to pay back my student loans and credit cards.

That's a true story.

Little worker safety, little environmental regulation, little worker compensation.

Wasn't so long ago, congress would be screaming bloody murder if corporations did here what they are getting away with in Mexico, China, India and many other 3rd world countries in regards to manufacturing.

Oh well, welcome to Walmart......wanna sticker young man?

58 posted on 12/07/2010 12:49:32 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: 1st I.D Vet
IE. thanks Clinton! China allowed into WTO. Dem ahole.

Bubba also "lent" them sensitive technology in exchange for campaign contributions and allowed the ChiComs to steal "secrets" at nuke research labs.

To be fair though, the US House of Representatives voted to granted Most Favored Nation status to China in 2000 and GH Bush endorsed it back in 1990.

in 2001 George W. Bush endorsed China's entry into the World Trade Organization - even though at the time China downed and held hostage an American "spy" plane.

It's been FUBAR bi-partisan treachery that should NOT go un-noticed.

59 posted on 12/07/2010 12:56:18 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But as always, the government cuts the meat first and never, ever touches the fat.

Yup. Pensions, bennies, toll booths, and school budgets (it be fo' duh children) are Sacred Cows.

Protecting the Serfs from the Zombies? HA!

60 posted on 12/07/2010 1:02:22 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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