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Goon Over Miami: Jets Assistant Coach Apologizes for Tripping Dolphins Player
Fox News ^ | 12/12/10

Posted on 12/13/2010 7:42:15 AM PST by martin_fierro

Dec. 12: New York Jets assistant Sal Alosi apologized after blatantly tripping Miami's Nolan Carroll on the sideline during Gang Green's 10-6 loss to the Dolphins Sunday.

New York Jets assistant coach Sal Alosi apologized after blatantly tripping Miami's Nolan Carroll on the sideline during Gang Green's 10-6 loss to the Dolphins Sunday.

The strength and conditioning coach was ushered out of New Meadowlands Stadium by a staff member, ignoring interview requests by the New York Post and protected by two security members at an exit.

After the Jets confirmed he was the guilty tripper and the NFL announced it was reviewing the play, Alosi apologized.

"I made a mistake that showed a total lapse in judgment," Alosi said in a statement, adding that he apologized to Carroll and Dolphins coach Tony Sparano. < -- snip -- >

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To: laxcoach

“Have you ever watched what gunners do on punts?”

No I’ve never seen a football game in my life, never ever.

“brazen, willful ignorance.”

No, I just don’t think its a big thing or worth crying about.

The NFL is a big boy sport full of thugs. The players should stay away from the other teams coaches and the coaches should do the same.


51 posted on 12/13/2010 8:40:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: moehoward

Next thing ya know players will be getting tackled and quarterbacks sacked.

The NFL is a religion to so many, but its really just a business. The NFL will do anything to protect its product.


52 posted on 12/13/2010 8:42:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: WNCer2010

Vick is a piece of garbage and the NFL is VERY Pro-Obama. Keep watching and keep supporting Obama.


53 posted on 12/13/2010 8:43:51 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: driftdiver

Well congratulations on not letting people put their past in the past. Most of the rest of the world has employees with records, LOTS of them. In today’s ever expanding government a truly significant percentage of the general population has a record. Then of course there’s the people that never got caught, you probably have some of them.


54 posted on 12/13/2010 8:47:37 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Frantzie
<wishing for an ignore button>
55 posted on 12/13/2010 8:48:41 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: driftdiver
Next thing ya know players will be getting tackled and quarterbacks sacked.

You're right - but that usually happens by opposing players, on the field of play.
56 posted on 12/13/2010 8:49:04 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: montag813

I didn’t see the trip either, even after replaying several times. Must need a different camera angle.


57 posted on 12/13/2010 9:02:42 AM PST by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: devane617

Nor should he be. His behavior was inexcusable and doesn’t belong in sports where sportsmanship USED to at least be very important. However, don’t care who was playing, winning or losing...what he did was outrageous and he has no place in the game and that goes for anyone else who behaves in such a manner. Period.


58 posted on 12/13/2010 9:05:00 AM PST by cubreporter ( Trust Rush and you won't go wrong.)
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To: Caipirabob

At least he “cheated” on the spur of the moment lapse of judgement and out of frustration. No where does it even come close to the disgusting actions of the Patriots’ planning and scheming for years on how to cheat themselves into a couple of Super Bowl victories. MUCH, MUCH bigger stain no matter how you slice it.

And don’t bother, not a fan of either team.


59 posted on 12/13/2010 9:05:31 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Fundamentally Fair

Go ahead and ignore. The NFL is s**t. They pawned Rush, called him a racist, refused to seell the Rams to him and let a shady Muslim buy the team. Keep supporting the NFL and Obama and Vick.


60 posted on 12/13/2010 9:06:43 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: discostu

“Well congratulations on not letting people put their past in the past.”

Dude this thread isn’t about Vick. There are LOTS of criminals in the NFL, many worse than Vick.

Cheap shots happen in every game. Throw a flag and quit whining about it.


61 posted on 12/13/2010 9:07:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Yep, hence my comment the player shoulda stayed on the field of play.


62 posted on 12/13/2010 9:08:27 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: martin_fierro

people make mistakes


63 posted on 12/13/2010 9:10:24 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: Hatteras

64 posted on 12/13/2010 9:13:09 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Caipirabob

Hmm, doesn’t look like a trip to me. I was expecting him to stick his foot out. The Jet coach appears more like he’s holding his ground.


65 posted on 12/13/2010 9:20:19 AM PST by baltoga
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To: driftdiver

I didn’t say anything about Vick. You said you don’t hire anybody with a record, which means you don’t let people put their past in the past.

Usually the coaches aren’t the ones throwing the cheap shot. And the refs didn’t see it so no flag was thrown, but the guy will be fined by the league. Nobody is whining, except maybe the guy who keep talking about all the “bad” people in the NFL.


66 posted on 12/13/2010 9:21:06 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: martin_fierro

Not quite a Tommy Lewis/Dicky Moegle moment, but Alosi does get his 15 minutes in the spotlight.


67 posted on 12/13/2010 9:21:51 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: xrmusn

Great reference!!!


68 posted on 12/13/2010 9:24:41 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: discostu

“You said you don’t hire anybody with a record, which means you don’t let people put their past in the past.’

Actually since my business involves computer security and access to sensitive information for commercial and govt customers I am required by law to conduct back ground checks in many cases. In other cases I’m required by contractual obligations. Few people in my industry commit felonies and stay in the industry.

Lots of people are whining, you especially.


69 posted on 12/13/2010 9:31:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Pointing out your hypocrisy isn’t whining. On the other hand coming onto every sports thread you see and talking about all the criminals in that league is most definitely whining.


70 posted on 12/13/2010 9:33:07 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu

“Pointing out your hypocrisy isn’t whining.”

What hypocrisy is that? The fact that I don’t like felons whether they are in the NFL or in my workplace?

C’mon, you should be able to find a better answer than that.

“On the other hand coming onto every sports thread you see and talking about all the criminals in that league is most definitely whining.”

Would you like some cheese?


71 posted on 12/13/2010 9:38:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: martin_fierro

nobody is perfect, but this guy should step down and find another line of work.


72 posted on 12/13/2010 9:42:10 AM PST by camp_steveo
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To: driftdiver

Yaaaaaawn. Nothing but personal attacks now. Come back when, if, you actually have something useful to say.

Meanwhile most work places will still have convicted felons in them, whether you can admit it or not.


73 posted on 12/13/2010 9:47:54 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu; driftdiver

Of course, most work places have convicted felons in them.

But that is far different from saying that it’s perfectly OK for convicted felons to be in most work places.

Sorry, but I’m with driftdiver on this one.


74 posted on 12/13/2010 10:01:30 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Caipirabob

Really? He stood his ground on the sideline OUT OF BOUNDS.

He didn’t whip his leg out to trip the guy - he didn’t stick anything out further than it was to begin with, he just didn’t move out of the way.

At least, in the video I saw.

Now, was it smart? No. Should he be disciplined? Yes. If the other guy wants to sue for any lost time/wages, I’d say yup, he’s got grounds.

But the player was OUT OF BOUNDS. On the other teams sideline. He should have re-entered the field of play immediately - then continue on down for the return.


75 posted on 12/13/2010 10:05:34 AM PST by Ro_Thunder (Nov 2nd, 2010 - The adults get home, and are back in charge)
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To: martin_fierro; All

WWVLD
VL= Vince Lombardi
I’ll wait to hear what Mike Ditka has to say!


76 posted on 12/13/2010 10:08:53 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Leaning Right

Why wouldn’t it be OK for ex-cons to have jobs? Certain jobs as they relate to certain crimes it makes sense, you don’t want a convicted embezzler running the books, but there’s no reason said embezzler shouldn’t have a job that’s far away from the accounting department.

There’s a built in assumption in our justice system that when you finish your sentence you’re done with punishment. Your attitude continues the punishment indefinitely, a person who did time in their 20s still shouldn’t, according to you, be in most work places when their 50. And remember what it takes these days to be a convicted felon, any misdemeanor done across a state line can make you one. Since Vick was brought up it’s good to remember that he’s a felon NOT because of killing dogs, but because there was gambling in multiple states. If you’re on some poker website that’s not on the up and up you could wind up a convicted felon the same way, should we not allow you in most work places? It’s silly, put the past where it belongs, don’t turn it into an albatross people have to carry around forever.


77 posted on 12/13/2010 10:09:27 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Leaning Right; discostu

“But that is far different from saying that it’s perfectly OK for convicted felons to be in most work places.”

ESPECIALLY when those felons are being held up as examples for our children.

So getting all bent out of shape by a cheap shot in a game full of cheap shots is a waste of time.


78 posted on 12/13/2010 10:11:27 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

I suspect your eyes are Brown!


79 posted on 12/13/2010 10:13:07 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: discostu; Leaning Right

Most felonies are committed by people with criminal backgrounds.

Of course this has nothing to do with the thread. Nor does Vick’s history of killing dogs.

This coach doled out a cheap shot at a player who was out of bounds. Was it stupid? yes. Is it a crime? No, and all the wailing that he should be fired and banned from the NFL is laughable.

This stuff happens in every game, if they started firing people they would run out of people pretty darn quick.


80 posted on 12/13/2010 10:17:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Who’s holding anybody up as examples to our children? They’re athletes, not heroes. And the game isn’t filled with cheap shots either. Your argument is just plain not reality based. The coach went after somebody’s knee, a potentially career ending move for the guy he hit, that was wrong, he’s ADMITTED he did wrong. Nobody is really bent out of shape, but in an otherwise moribund game (really that Phins-Jets game really blew) it was the closest thing to something interesting that happened. So now it’s on the various websites that discuss sports because that’s what they do, they take the most interesting thing that happened in a game and talk about it. And as it goes this is pretty rare, coaches don’t generally trip opposing players, so it is out of the ordinary. But the story is almost done, tomorrow he’ll get a letter from the league, his fine amount will be reported, and then we’ll move on to week 15. That’s sports.


81 posted on 12/13/2010 10:22:12 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu

You wrote: “put the past where it belongs, don’t turn it into an albatross people have to carry around forever”

I can’t argue with that. In fact, it’s the humane thing to do.

But, unfortunately, it sometimes goes against common sense. Something like one violent felon in three will re-offend.

And let’s be honest. Someone with the mindset to torture a dog or pull a gun on a bank clerk, well, their mind just works differently than the average person.

So I’d very, very leary of hiring any ex-felon, especially one with violence on his/her record.

It’s just common sense. Is that fair to the ex-felon, or is it fair to society? No.

No easy ansers here.


82 posted on 12/13/2010 10:34:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: martin_fierro; 4everontheRight; ABG(anybody but Gore); Abbeville Conservative; akorahil; albee; ...

NFL PING

FReepmail scott says to be added to, or to be taken off the NFL Ping list...

83 posted on 12/13/2010 10:49:07 AM PST by scott says (Barack ODRAMA--the politics of Fear and Loathing)
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To: martin_fierro

The Jets are now showing what they really are. They’re a bunch of frauds, just like their loudmouthed, morbidly obese buffoonish joke of a head coach.


84 posted on 12/13/2010 10:53:52 AM PST by jpl (Our forebears really gave their lives so we could be groped by bureaucratic retards at the airport?)
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To: scott says

I am a Pats Fan, but I admit, I find Ryan kind of amusing, and I think he has the capability to be a very good coach. The bluster thing just shoots his men in the feet, IMO.

He writes checks that his team has to back up with cash, and I can’t imagine that makes things any easier for them.

Personally, I think they would be much more successful if they did less talking off the field...just my 2 cents...


85 posted on 12/13/2010 11:01:05 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Great reference!!!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Well with the game being in 1954, involving Alabama at the Cotton Bowl, we will NOT have to search for sex or anything else about ID’ing ANY of the people involved and for some, probably in the whole stadium.... <: <:


86 posted on 12/13/2010 11:08:43 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: driftdiver

1.) The Jets assistant coach clearly intended what he did. Clearly. His language in the apology doesn’t leave any wiggle room for misinterpretation.

2.) I don’t think he should be fired, but he and the team should definitely be fined. I am pretty certain the guy wishes he had never done it, and probably felt that way at the instant he did it. And not because he got filmed and caught, I know he must regret it because he knows darn well he crossed a line. He crossed a line that coaching teams simply don’t cross, as another poster said. But I do agree people are making somewhat of a mountain out of a molehill. The player didn’t get hurt, didn’t even want to comment further on it, and the assistant coach issued what appeared to be a heartfelt apology for something he apparently knows was a bad thing (which, I admit, is an easier thing to do when you realize you may have just trashed your entire professional life in the space of a half a second, and will spend the rest of it in a Gold’s Gym cleaning equipment and washing towels instead of standing on the sidelines at an NFL game...)

3.) I usually like reading your posts, driftdiver, and find them interesting and thoughtful, but to come into a subject like this and openly admit you have never watched a football game in your life while opining on the sport as you have in this thread does you no service, in my opinion. Heck, we all can comment on stuff we don’t know about here (and all of us do at one point or another) but I would hope you have at least watched a game before making some blanket statements as you have. If you don’t like the NFL as some other posters clearly don’t for a variety of reasons (political-correctness, nannying their players, feminizing the sport, the extensive commercialization and so on) I think people might disagree and argue with you, but you are entitled to your opinion, as you are in this case.

There are plenty of quality people who inhabit the NFL as there are in most sports. There are also punks, idiots, thugs and so on in every sport. I just think you should be less strident, as someone who admits they have never watched a single football game in their entire life.

Granted, this is my opinion and you don’t know me from Adam, and as always you are entitled to your opinion. I just think you are off base.


87 posted on 12/13/2010 11:20:10 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: rlmorel

“I usually like reading your posts, driftdiver, and find them interesting and thoughtful, but to come into a subject like this and openly admit you have never watched a football game in your life while opining on the sport as you have in this thread does you no service, in my opinion. “

Thanks, I have actually watched NFL games. I just forget to put the /s tag out there sometimes. In fact I watched 3 NFL games this weekend and a hockey game.

There are quality people in the NFL, but they are outnumbered by the thugs. My whole point was that making a massive issue of this incident and overlooking all the other garbage is not right.

Fine the guy and move on.


88 posted on 12/13/2010 11:26:51 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Leaning Right

That still leaves 2/3 of the violent felons and all the non-violent felons which these days make up the vast majority. That’s a whole lot of probably not bad apples getting thrown out.


89 posted on 12/13/2010 11:53:10 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: driftdiver

Okay...I completely missed the sarcasm...:)

Your opinion is now valid for consideration in my mind, and we do agree on a major point-don’t crucify the guy!


90 posted on 12/13/2010 12:54:14 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: GOYAKLA

I’ve got no dog in that hunt. I’m a Chargers fan, and live in Houston.

You can say bovine excrement all you want, but I saw nothing the coach did other than stand there - maybe flinch a little - but nothing where he ‘intentionally kicked/tripped a player’.

Who was it that years (decades ago, now) that was coaching and decided to tackle the free runner on a return? Oh yeah, here it is.

http://www.ricefootball.net/tackle.htm

In the second quarter, with the Owls already up 7-0, they set up shop on their own five yard line. Maegle took a quick pitch, broke off-tackle, and headed for the sidelines. With nothing but daylight ahead, he was headed for a 95-yard touchdown run.

On the ‘Bama bench, Tommy Lewis, a reserve back, had had all he could take. Maegle was in the clear, at the Alabama 40, when Lewis burst off the bench to bring him down.

Now THAT is intentional. What the S&C coach did was not ‘intentional’, just oblivious at best, and perhaps ‘intentional’ in not moving out of the way - but he’s 5 yards out of bounds to begin with.


91 posted on 12/13/2010 12:58:58 PM PST by Ro_Thunder (Nov 2nd, 2010 - The adults get home, and are back in charge)
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To: martin_fierro

Ohio State Football coach Woody Hayes did something similar to a pleyer on the sidelines.....didn’t he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I


92 posted on 12/13/2010 1:06:49 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: rlmorel

Yes, I meant to also say thanks for the thoughtful post.

IMO the player was pushed out of bounds and knew it would be faster to make a straight line for the play.

This straight line was within a few inches of where the coaches were standing. The coach reacted without thinking and got busted.

Its not like he created a detailed plan for video taping practices or something.


93 posted on 12/13/2010 1:07:40 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: martin_fierro

What I want to know is why the strength coaching staff has to be standing right on the sideline in the first place. Some of their toes seem to be on the sideline itself, which is actually supposed to be a 15 yard penalty.

The only people who should be allowed that close to the field are the actual coaches, the players, the officiating crew, and SOME media crew. The strength staff, who during the game are really just paid spectators, and other auxiliary staff have no business standing that close to the field and are really just in the way, as we saw yesterday.

The NFL really ought to take a look at cutting down on the number of people who are allowed to mill around on the sidelines. Some teams (like the Giants) are better about it than others, but NFL sidelines in general have gotten way too crowded. Leaving aside the absurd amount of equipment (which is the subject of another rant), the sheer numbers of superfluous “attendants” (to quote the NFL rules) and other hangers-on is starting to detract from the game. They could probably stand to learn a thing or two from MLB and the NHL, which are generally much better about keeping the field clear.


94 posted on 12/13/2010 1:28:52 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: baltoga
The Jet coach appears more like he’s holding his ground.

You should let the Jet coach know then...so he can retract his apology. /s

95 posted on 12/13/2010 1:32:56 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: Ro_Thunder
I’m a Chargers fan, and live in Houston.

I'm sorry.

Twice. ;)

96 posted on 12/13/2010 1:35:19 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: martin_fierro

In general.. Dolphins are pussies....

Don’t want to get tripped?? Stay away from the coaches! :-)

Oh.. yes.. it’s HORRIBLE.. I’m sure the guy will be fired, be publicly caned, and will cry at his presser..

But, for my money... that coach had a RIGHT To be where he was....All he did was brace himself to stand his ground.

Now, had he KICKED the player while on the ground... I’d have a problem.


97 posted on 12/13/2010 2:13:17 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: martin_fierro

Paging Woody Hayes....


98 posted on 12/13/2010 2:15:00 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: driftdiver
Its not like he created a detailed plan for video taping practices or something.

Well... actually... THAT is not a firable offense.... unless of course, your team just got the SNOT kicked out of them by Da Raiders!

99 posted on 12/13/2010 2:15:17 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: GSWarrior

Paging Tommy Lewis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSteCSinjTs


100 posted on 12/13/2010 2:19:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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