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Pregnant Teen Attacked by Strangers on Packed Seattle Bus
http://abcnews.go.com/US/pregnant-teen-attacked-packed-seattle-bus/story?id=12414910 ^ | Dec 17, 2010 | EMILY FRIEDMAN

Posted on 12/17/2010 10:51:10 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius

A busload of people did nothing to stop a pack of teen girls from beating a pregnant teenager and her boyfriend despite pleas from the victims that she was carrying a baby. The behavior was caught on the bus' surveillance camera and later helped police in Seattle locate the five attackers.

"I'm shocked," said Sgt. John Urquhart of the King County Sheriff's Department. "The video is shocking to look at.

"The ferocity, the intensity, the unprovoked nature" is shocking, he said. "But what shocks me most is that these girls thought they could do this on a crowded bus with adults and do it with impunity."

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KEYWORDS: attack; bus; hatecrime; moralabsolutes; pregnantteen; seattle; transportation
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What the hell?
1 posted on 12/17/2010 10:51:14 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
"But what shocks me most is that these girls thought they could do this on a crowded bus with adults and do it with impunity."

And they were right. Imagine that.

2 posted on 12/17/2010 10:53:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
But what shocks me most is that these girls thought they could do this on a crowded bus with adults

What shocks - and depresses - me most is that they were correct.
3 posted on 12/17/2010 10:54:57 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Tiz da see-sun.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 10:56:30 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

For another article and video about this event, see the link below:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013694732_busattack17m.html


5 posted on 12/17/2010 10:57:08 AM PST by ruralvoter
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To: LearsFool; ClearCase_guy

What shocks me is that the adults did NOTHING! Not even call 911? What the f***? Okay I admit it is a gang of girls but to not call the police and report it? That is what makes me angry!


6 posted on 12/17/2010 10:57:41 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 206....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

I suspect that somewhere, somehow, there are ethnic issues involved - and that will complicate the matter, political correctness notwithstanding.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 11:00:53 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Of course these thugs and brats have carte blanche wherever Concealed Carry is not the right of the people to enact a citizen arrest. It stops cold where people are permitted to defend themselves and others.


8 posted on 12/17/2010 11:01:28 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Well break it down. What would happen to a man who laid a beatdown on the girls? Could you imagine the testimony?

I don’t blame the adults for not stepping up, I blame the liberal establishment who would punish the adult for doing the right thing. Pregnant women can still carry concealed in WA and even if she capped one of the attacjkers she would come out of a hearing with no charges.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 11:02:45 AM PST by rahbert
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To: neutrino

You would be correct. The attackers are ‘minorities’ and the attackees are not.

The boyfriend tried to protect her though. Props to him.


10 posted on 12/17/2010 11:03:18 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Hate Crime!


11 posted on 12/17/2010 11:03:19 AM PST by Rio
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
What does not surprise me at all is the race of the perps. I didn't even have to watch the video.
12 posted on 12/17/2010 11:04:54 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (The U.S. Senate - Freedom's Graveyard.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Looked like a hate crime to me.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 11:05:33 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
Doesn't this point straight to our utter failure at self-government? At the heart of self-government are principles such as trial by jury, citizen's arrest, defense of self and others, "good samaritan" laws - in short, the community standing as one against troublemakers and evildoers.

America's experiment in self-government is completed. The results of the experiment are in.
14 posted on 12/17/2010 11:06:43 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ruralvoter

From the article you linked to: “Without warning, one of the suspects grabbed an MP-3 player away from 17-year-old Jessica Redmon-Beckstead, who was on the bus with her boyfriend, Jason DeCoste, 19.”

If Jessica is pregnant, and Jason is the father, is he not guilty of statutory rape?

I know, a bit off topic...


15 posted on 12/17/2010 11:07:24 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Islander7
The boyfriend tried to protect her though. Props to him.

Yeah, he did his best. Although by the second time that girl kicked me in the face, she would have had a beat-down coming, 16 year-old or not.

I see why ABC blocked out the faces of the attackers: all black. "Nothing to see here, folks. Move along."

16 posted on 12/17/2010 11:09:27 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Animals. Where is Epic Beard Man when we need him?


17 posted on 12/17/2010 11:10:15 AM PST by Constitution Day
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CLUE — One gun, five bullets, on the 50 yard line, before a cheering crowd.


18 posted on 12/17/2010 11:10:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: RobRoy

Age of consent in Washington is 16.


19 posted on 12/17/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Here is a better video link.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/111982399.html?skipthumb=Y

Guess which ethnicity the attackers are.

Guess which ethnicity the victims are.

My, my. Surprise, surprise. (/sarc)


20 posted on 12/17/2010 11:13:19 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Seattle is a liberal toilet.


21 posted on 12/17/2010 11:14:03 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

The black girls just have to say that the white girl used the n word and the case will be over.


22 posted on 12/17/2010 11:14:19 AM PST by econ cents
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To: LearsFool

Ah, yes, nothing like shameless display of sex to aggregate itself into shameless bully behavior on about. These gangs know the cowardice of the crowds.


23 posted on 12/17/2010 11:15:14 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Although by the second time that girl kicked me in the face, she would have had a beat-down coming, 16 year-old or not.

My thoughts exactly. Know your pressure points and weak joints.

24 posted on 12/17/2010 11:16:19 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: LearsFool

Cops and prosecutors have only but themselves to blame for letting the woman run amok and the bullies unpunished by the very confrontational public they fear, one firing them from their jobs.


25 posted on 12/17/2010 11:16:36 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SunkenCiv
CLUE — One gun, five bullets,

Bernie Goetz

26 posted on 12/17/2010 11:16:50 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Urban Seattle is turning into Mogadishu and the PC libs that run the place are allowing it to happen. I would never go downtown without my model 1911 cocked and locked.


27 posted on 12/17/2010 11:17:44 AM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a pit bull.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

>>What shocks me is that the adults did NOTHING! <<

When adults step up, things go much better. Mercer Island schools are better than Kent schools because there is more parental involvement. I know. I attended both districts in my Jr High and Sr High years. There was no comparison. An ARMY of involved adults don’t let the school district get away with crap.

I’ve been to public music events in Mercer Island and in Kent. In Mercer Island, you see people drinking wine out of Baccarat crystal wine glasses, unmolested by cops occasionally walking through the crowd, and when the event ends there is NO garbage. Everyone cleans up after themselves.

In Kent, if you try to drink a Bud out of a brown paper bag, the cops are on you. And the park tends to be a bit more trashed after the event.

It is all about the general public response to bad behavior in a particular community. The people in Mercer Island can do what they do because they have proven that they can handle it with no ill effects. In Kent, when it is allowed, it can become a bit of a problem and their can be altercations, etc.

The less virtuous a people, the greater the need for laws.

BTW, I’ve experienced the anecdotal events above. Yes, there are lots of responsible adults in Kent, but the general “responsibility level” of crowds there is lower than Mercer Island. Sorry. It just is. And for the record, I now live in neither place.

If there was an expectation, by the girls, that the other people would get involved, they never would have done what they did. And if I had been that guy in the gray sweatshirt on the left, as soon as Jessica stepped back after asking for her MP3 player back, I would have stepped in the space she had just occupied and seriously ramped it up verbally. I would have looked at those girls, pulled out my phone, and said that if they don’ give it back immedeately, I was calling the police. Like Patrick Swayze said in “Point Breaki”, you intimidate immediately to prevent the other side from entertaining the possibility of striking back. And you give them a nice, clear, binary option: Give it back and forget it ever happened, or the police are gonna meet you when you get off the bus.

Oh, and I’ve done this before. I was the last call on David’s show on KTTH last night. I DID get into a swarm of Asian high school boys beating and kicking the sh!! out of another kid in broad dailight in the international district of Seattle while lots of people just watched. It was me and a taxi driver. The bullies didn’t know how to handle us, but they did not strike out. They were kinda shocked and left.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

We all have to do our part when the opportunity presents itself, and let the chips fall where they may.


29 posted on 12/17/2010 11:21:53 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

More Amish violence?


30 posted on 12/17/2010 11:21:53 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

God forbid that I ever find myself in the presence of such a thing.


31 posted on 12/17/2010 11:22:06 AM PST by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

No fathers thanks to Liberalism. Entitled to other people’s property - the theft. No regard for the unborn. PC protected class. Liberal dumbed down education.

The victims weren’t too swift either, flashing something of value.

I wonder if the toddler at the end of the video is hers as well.


32 posted on 12/17/2010 11:24:33 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

What percent of bus riders are confident, proactive people?


33 posted on 12/17/2010 11:25:08 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: LearsFool

Well you have idiots on FR bashing LTC Lakin talking about the law. What law? There is no more law. We have no standing.

The Lakin bashers are typical drooling idiots watching TV’s 24x7 propaganda, ball games and dreaming that Prince AL Waleed’s Fox News is their savior.


34 posted on 12/17/2010 11:25:14 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Blocked out the faces? Here is the raw video. You get to see it all from start to finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN7NmbEyxM0&has_verified=1


35 posted on 12/17/2010 11:26:50 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
1) I support public cameras so that incidents like this can be filmed.
2) I truly believe that people who initiate physical violence should lose the protection of the law.
3) You throw a punch, I can kill you. I show the tape in court, I walk free.
4) Have a nice day.

Honestly, I don't know how to solve the social breakdown. We are now subject to the rule of the jungle and I see no social mechanism that makes even the slightest step toward mitigating that process. But giving citizens a very freee hand to strike back would do it.

36 posted on 12/17/2010 11:26:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: RobRoy
The less virtuous a people, the greater the need for laws.

A great truth that needs repeating ...

37 posted on 12/17/2010 11:29:36 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: RitaOK

Washington is a “shall issue” state when it comes to concealed carry and has been for a long time - probably no armed citizens on that particular bus, though.


38 posted on 12/17/2010 11:31:08 AM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a pit bull.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
Jessica was treated at a nearby hospital for a wound over her eye and her unborn baby was said to be fine.

When was the last time you saw ABC use that term?

39 posted on 12/17/2010 11:31:28 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: ClearCase_guy
"3) You throw a punch, I can kill you."

Tape or no tape, you're dead.

40 posted on 12/17/2010 11:36:56 AM PST by blam
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

The perps thought they could “Get ova on da cracka”


41 posted on 12/17/2010 11:38:17 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 19 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: G Larry
What percent of bus riders are confident, proactive people?

That's a good point.

One reason I'll never again be a city-dweller is that it hinders self-reliance and all that follows from it. (Jefferson was right: The best hope for preserving a free people lies outside the city limits.)
42 posted on 12/17/2010 11:39:59 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: TexGuy

The less virtuous a people, the greater the need for laws.

A great truth that needs repeating ...
________

My thought exactly.

Colonel, USAFR


43 posted on 12/17/2010 11:40:03 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Frantzie
The Lakin bashers are typical drooling idiots watching TV’s 24x7 propaganda, ball games and dreaming that Prince AL Waleed’s Fox News is their savior.

Thank GOD for Prince Al Waleed! He gives me Fox News to watch! I love watching TV all day and night, and I even record ball games to play them while I sleep.

Television will save America, especially things that Prince Al Waleed creates for us!

44 posted on 12/17/2010 11:40:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 19 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Clearly a hate crime because the victim is singled out for no discernable reason. Everybody has earbuds in now days. The MP3 player was used to draw the victim into the confrontation, thereby “justifying” the violence against her. It's bullcrap, and if people don't wake up and stand up we will all pay the price.
45 posted on 12/17/2010 11:41:32 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: Lazamataz

You are a good little sheep.


46 posted on 12/17/2010 11:42:10 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie
It's much more than that. I have been effective at getting formerly-politically-involved conservative friends over, so we can all watch TV and create a small shrine to Prince Al Waleed, who is truly the best man in the world.

Join us, friend. We have popcorn. Kettle-cooked.

47 posted on 12/17/2010 11:44:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 19 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
I have long ago vowed NEVER to ride on a Seattle Metro Bus. If an incident happens, and they often do, the drivers are instructed not to get involved. Just to let the beating happen and let Seattle police handle the incident. A few weeks ago a ruffian was caught on camera harassing other riders, and then picking one out followed the gentleman off the bus, where he was beaten unconscious for no reason. The driver at no time got involved. Just let it all happen. It was a ruble video to watch. There are other incidents as well.

Even waiting for a Seattle bus can turn deadly.

Man charged in attack on stranger at a bus stop

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2013612289_man_charged_for_allegedly_atta.html

A Seattle man who allegedly stabbed a stranger in a random attack last month has been charged with first-degree assault.

Tarvel Moyer, 38, was arrested on Nov. 24 for the attack in Des Moines. He is being held at the King County Jail in lieu of $750,000 bail.

According to Des Moines police, a woman was walking north in the 23000 block of Pacific Highway South toward the bus stop around 10 a.m. on Nov. 24 when Moyer approached her. Moyer mumbled something at the woman and then lunged at her, driving a knife into her chest. Moyer never said a word to his victim. He walked away after the attack.

48 posted on 12/17/2010 11:44:59 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
The next event regarding this will be the obligatory prosecutor twisting himself into a pretzel to avoid pressing hate crime charges. "Well, it looks like robbery or something was the motive".
49 posted on 12/17/2010 11:46:33 AM PST by Hacksaw (“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy” — H.L. Mencken)
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To: rahbert
"...Well break it down.
What would happen to a man who laid a beatdown on the girls?
Could you imagine the testimony? I don’t blame the adults for not stepping up, I blame the liberal establishment who would punish the adult for doing the right thing..."


Rahbert, you are 100% correct.
In this wacky Twilight Zone country in which we reside, an innocent bystander adult simply trying to HELP would probably be charged with a crime by some annoying Liberal.
A decent, good, and law-abiding person riding the bus to/from work simply doesn't wish to get their life jammed-up.

50 posted on 12/17/2010 11:49:34 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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