Posted on 12/25/2010 4:00:25 AM PST by wendy1946
There is nothing I wrote you that had anything to do with anticipation of an audience let alone an applause... Over and OUT!!!
>>There is nothing I wrote you that had anything to do with anticipation of an audience let alone an applause... Over and OUT!!!<<
It was NOT meant as a slam on you. Sorry. :)
The thing about all these speculations regarding the world of Genesis, which you aptly point out was written a LONG time after the fact by someone that was not there when it happened, are that they are just that - speculations. Sure, one can infer all sorts of things from what Peter, et-al say about the beginning, but even then we have a tendency to “read between the lines” things that are not really there.
My basic position on this is that we can no more know much about the genesis events than what the bible says IN Genesis than we can know the day or the hour of Jesus’ return. Whenever people get pretty “strong” in their opinion on what it says that is not in the plain text, alarms start going off in my head.
The quote of the line from the Genesis song was just my way of saying that we all tend to, when we think we may have found something there that nobody else noticed, we have a natural tendency to try to bring others along. And there is a bit of the natural man that really WANTS to be right, for it shows we deserve the applause.
I still defer to my comment about the bible attempting to explain red to a person that only sees grayscale. And it actually does a pretty good job. But the bottom line is that in this life we see as through a mirror, darkly.
I personally can give NO plausible reason why I would be so blessed to have been born as a citizen of these United States. Certainly is not because of anything 'good' about me.
So I sought to weight out WHY would one nation exceed to such prosperity and what could not be called anything else but blessed and protected. And it sure is NOT that we as peoples deserved it more than any other peoples.
What was 'different' about US? And there it was in our Declaration of Independence....
http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
But of course 'man/woman' never perfect, had to have an attitude adjustment in what constitutes 'man'. And so in course of time the people came to see the error of their ways.
The evidence to me personally of The Creator is who He says He was and is and will always be flows from being 'graced' to have been born in a nation that from its founding acknowledged the Creator as the source of 'life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness'.
To me it is NOT complicated but complicated by minds who are bent in removing that acknowledgment from our nation's standard. They may succeed in pulling it down around their ankles but they will never tear it out of the minds and spines of all of US.
Ping.
What was the mechanism?
By what mechanism does antibiotic resistance arise in pathogens treated with antibiotics?
What is the mechanism?
What was the mechanism whereby sickle cell anemia became prevalent in malaria country?
What was the mechanism whereby lactose tolerance in adulthood became prevalent in Northern European and African cattle herding populations?
What was the mechanism?
How did all modern species arise from those “kinds” that could presumably all fit on a boat of known dimensions?
What was the mechanism?
I agree, they are doing Christianity and FR no favors.
If 6000 years is enough for Huckebee, it should be enough for you!
Even if you assume 6,000 years and absolute Biblical literalism......
1) Humans evolved from one population in one location to several ‘eco-type’ populations. How and why?
2) Bacterial resistance to antibiotics happens in ‘real time’? How and why?
3) The sickle cell anemia allele is common where malaria is common, lactose tolerance is common where milk drinking is common. How and why?
4) All modern species are presumable (via the YEC model) descended from all the animals that could fit on a boat of known dimensions a few thousand years ago. That is millions of species from, at most, thousands of species. How and why did we get this exponential expansion of species? What was the mechanism?
Microevolution (which nobody argues) why?
By what mechanism does antibiotic resistance arise in pathogens treated with antibiotics? What is the mechanism?
Microevolution (which nobody argues) why?
What was the mechanism whereby sickle cell anemia became prevalent in malaria country?
Microevolution (which nobody argues) why?
What was the mechanism whereby lactose tolerance in adulthood became prevalent in Northern European and African cattle herding populations? What was the mechanism?
Microevolution (which nobody argues) why?
How did all modern species arise from those “kinds” that could presumably all fit on a boat of known dimensions?
Microevolution (which nobody argues) ...
The big lie in the picture here is the implied idea that microevolution can simply pile up into MACROEVOLUTION, which is what Chuck Darwin's BS theory is about. THAT has been thoroughly debunked.
Apparently you agree that SOME animals are related by common ancestry. Universal common ancestry is an assumption of evolution through natural selection of genetic variation, but it is not itself the theory that Darwin described.
The theory that Darwin described you just admitted was THE explanation for a HOST of biological phenomena.
Now you may want to argue that the mechanism of speciation that Darwin described is not sufficient to explain common descent of species “between kinds”; but obviously it is THE biological explanation for the common descent of species “within a kind”.
So now we are left arguing over the 1% of the theory it seems you disagree with, just how “common” is the common descent of species?
Are a mouse and a rat the same “kind”?
How about a chimpanzee and a human? I know you will say no to that one, but based upon what actual objective standard?
Which would you expect, based upon your creationist model, to be more similar in DNA; a rat and a mouse or a human and a chimp?
And far from your inane assertion that microevolution is something “nobody argues”; we have assertions right here on this thread that any such adaptation would be impossible under the ludicrous mantra of “no new information”.
You should tell the writer of this article that his title is in error.
“The Basic ‘Micro’ Evolution of Modern Man” might be more appropriate. “The Basic Non Evolution of Modern Man” is obviously in error, as “nobody argues” that evolution (micro) is the explanation for how modern man became different from his ‘brothers and sisters’ across the globe.
It is OBVIOUS that man has changed/evolved/adapted as man has spread over the globe. Apparently Darwin's explanation for why, 150 years later, is the one you want to use also, while casting scorn upon his name as you do so.
So who came up with the theory that explains antibiotic resistance, differences between human populations, the tendency of a population to grow more adapted to its environment, and speciation (within a “kind”)?
Whose explanatory theory is still in use over 150 years later?
“Chuck Darwin”.
Center Right
Center Left
Socialists
Conservatives (often called "liberals" in other countries.)
Then you have a plethora of sub parties. Monarchists, Nationalists, etc.. In Europe the Center Left and the Center Right are both more Left than in the US.
The main purpose of political parties is to make sure that the will of the majority is rarely enacted, and NEVER at the expense of any substantial minorities. In real life, that means the will of the people jes' ain't never gonna happen much, until you get a popular dictator like Hitler.
Of course, most of the Western World also has proportional representation in Parliament. I.E., if your party gets 1% of the vote, your guys get 1% of Parliament. This is a particularly stupid and cumbersome convention. Parliaments also have "Votes of Confidence." IOW, had Congress been a parliament, the Kenya Kid would already be back herding goats outside of Mombasa.
The article itself says it’s just a redistribution of an existing allele, which falls under micro-evolution. Almost no one really disputes micro-evolution. Show a recent example of macro evolution.
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