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Paedophilia 'culturally accepted in south Afghanistan'
Telegraph UK ^ | 01/12/11 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 01/13/2011 12:03:18 PM PST by vimto

Paedophilia 'culturally accepted in south Afghanistan' British forces were advised by a military study that paedophilia is widespread and culturally accepted in southern Afghanistan.

British officers requested the study to help them understand the sexual behaviour of locals and Afghan comrades Photo: AFP/GETTY By Ben Farmer, Kabul 7:00PM GMT 13 Jan 2011 Older, powerful men boosted their social status by keeping boys as sexual playthings and the practice was celebrated in song and dance, a military study claimed.

British officers in Helmand requested the study to help them understand the sexual behaviour of locals and Afghan comrades after young soldiers became uneasy they were being propositioned.

American social scientists employed to help troops understand the local culture reported that homosexual sex was widespread among the Pashtun ethnic group in southern Afghanistan.

Strict separation of men and women, coupled with poverty and the significant expense of getting married, contributed to young men turning to each other for sexual companionship.

"To dismiss the existence of this dynamic out of desire to avoid western discomfort is to risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture," the report said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; peasophilia
Well, that's all right then.........?
1 posted on 01/13/2011 12:03:20 PM PST by vimto
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To: vimto

Richard Burton, the soldier and explorer from the 1800s, went disguised to a brothel and observed Afghan men having sex with little boys. It has been known forever.

Maybe San Francisco should be renamed Kabul.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 12:06:17 PM PST by Squidster
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To: vimto
Strict separation of men and women, coupled with poverty and the significant expense of getting married, contributed to young men turning to each other for sexual companionship.

Stupid argument. There have been and are lots of societies where these factors apply. None of them, to my knowledge, have anything like the same incidence of pederasty.

3 posted on 01/13/2011 12:07:16 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: vimto

Britain will now extend social benefits to Afghani immigrants who claim the added burden of having additional children to molest.


4 posted on 01/13/2011 12:07:34 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: vimto
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours. "

-- Charles Napier on the Hindu custom of suttee

5 posted on 01/13/2011 12:07:51 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: vimto

Same in da Nederlands.


6 posted on 01/13/2011 12:08:28 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (YOU BETCHA!)
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To: vimto
British officers in Helmand requested the study to help them understand the sexual behaviour of locals and Afghan comrades

That is pretty stunning. That Afghan men have sex with young boys is very, very, very old news. As in, something the British Empire encountered when they were in Afghanistan 150 years ago. That British officers need a study of this says volumes about how far the British are from their empire days. And how far they are from the days of that famous story that goes something like:

In the 1800s, a British officer stopped a family from throwing the wife of an Indian man on his funneral pyre. The family protested, stating that was their custom. The British officer replied, "That may be your custom but its our custom to hang chaps who do things like this."

7 posted on 01/13/2011 12:08:38 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOL. I was posting at the same time you were and thought of the same story.


8 posted on 01/13/2011 12:09:55 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

That tidbit of history fits so well, eh?


9 posted on 01/13/2011 12:11:14 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: vimto

They should teach abstinence in schools over there.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 12:11:19 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Squidster

John Masters: ‘Bugles and a Tiger, an autobiography published in 1956.

“Lawrence noted the tendency of the Arabs to homosexuality. It was the same among the Pathans. ‘A woman for business, a boy for pleasure, a goat for choice’ is an old Pathan proverb, and one of the most famous of Pathan songs, the ‘Zakhmi Dil’ (’Wounded Heart’) begins with the words, ‘There’s a boy across the river with a bottom like a peach, but, alas, I cannot swim.’ I do not know why homosexuality should affect various peoples so differently, but there was something startlingly incongruous about the idea when associated with these fierce men, physically the hardest people on earth - they use sharp stones for toilet paper - and with the vast, grim jaggedness in which they live. A Pathan walks with the grace of a man-eating tiger, in long and unhurried strides, with a lift to them. He carries his head insolently up and his shoulders carelessly back, but without any stiffness as from drilling. Pathans often have pale-blue eyes, untamed and a little terrifying, and the young men’s eyes are rimmed with kohl. Gritty dirt is ingrained in their skin, and soles of their feet are like cracked leather. They often wear roses in their long hair, and I frequently wish I could see a Pathan entering a gay cocktail party given by Manhattan fairies.”


11 posted on 01/13/2011 12:11:23 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: vimto

So, in short, our troops are shedding blood for muslim perverts to ply their debauchery in Afghanistan.

My God, I wish we’d let... no, HELPED the Soviets destroy them in the late ‘70s.


12 posted on 01/13/2011 12:11:36 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Exactly what I was thinking and would have posted had you not beaten me to it.

Now THAT is multiculturalism in action!!!!!!

13 posted on 01/13/2011 12:11:48 PM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

Maybe we should take out the entire Pashtun (Pathan) tribe, esp. since they’re the biggest supporters of the Taliban...


14 posted on 01/13/2011 12:13:36 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: vimto

I guess they’ll get along quite swimmingly with “0bama’s Own” (i.e., America’s newly minted “diverse” military), eh?


15 posted on 01/13/2011 12:14:36 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I only wish that was the attitude today. PC has destroyed all sense of what is morally right.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 12:15:00 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: vimto

I think we’re getting to the core (or at least one of them) as to why muslims are so ****ed up.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 12:15:34 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: vimto

Sexuality of muslim men (this is from first hand observations):

1. “Men and boys are for pleasure and women are for (male) babies.”
2. It is not homosexual activity if you are the “pitcher” or the one “penetrating.”
3. Non-muslim women are all whores and prostitutes
4. Sex with non-muslim women doesn’t count (as cheating) because they are infidels
5. If a muslim women is raped, it is her fault (she should have fought back harder)
6. It is OK to marry 13 year olds and have up to 4 wives. It is OK to divorce a wife once she gets too old and add a younger bride to your “stable”
7. It is OK to “marry” a muslim woman, have sex with her and them divorce her - it is called a “pleasure marriage” or temporary marriage (or sigha). The local Mullah gets a cut of the cost of the marriage. He actually is the pimp.

This is their mindset. The quicker you understand this the better you will comprehend their bizarre behavior...

Here’s the “allah” loophole:

Qur’an 24:34 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

Owning females slaves is ok, and forcing them into prostitution is ok. Besides, having sex with a slave is always ok.

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

And they claim the Western World is morally bankrupt? Up to 4 wives each, plus unlimited concubines, and the occasional sex slave...who needs the internet?


18 posted on 01/13/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: vimto
General Flashman noted when he was a Subaltern in the First Afghan War that Pathans would rather be perverts than not.
19 posted on 01/13/2011 12:17:22 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Parthians had a song and so did the Stanglers “Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches....”. Yeah, but women....!!!!


20 posted on 01/13/2011 12:18:50 PM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Sherman Logan

Judeo-Christian morality is what eliminated the “homosexual paradigm” from Western Civilization. Greek/Roman had rampant homosexuality promotion and pederasty...Spartan army was all homosexual with initiation of the young boys to carry on the tradition of the homosexual culture.

The behavior is learned....either a culture makes it “bad” or “good”. Religion based on Natural Law Theory (Christianity) is what developed into the “homosexual = evil” paradigm, which elevated the Jewish paradigm to be universal in Western Civilization.

The cultural Marxists are out to destroy Christianity—to destroy sexual morality—by promotion of homosexuality and feminism. The idea that certain “sex acts” can be labeled “wrong” is being eliminated as I type. Reeducation is being forced into the minds of all children and non-atheists.

Which of course, is the slippery slope to decadence and destruction of a civil society and the fascist way to eliminate religion from the public square because they teach “hate speech” that teaches “discrimination”.

It is political correctness which is cultural Marxism...which is to destroy all morality which will allow seizure of power.


21 posted on 01/13/2011 12:23:10 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: 2banana

Yes, and there is a serious problem in the UK of Muslim gangs in the north grooming white girls (often underaged and in care) for sex.

It’s been known for a decade or more but he liberals surpressed the info due to multiculturalism. The rapes should be laid at their door.

Enough is enough!!!


22 posted on 01/13/2011 12:23:24 PM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: savagesusie
What you write is quite correct.

Europe is in a bad, bad way - we will ‘tolerate’ anything.... even evil. Yet there are signs that we yet might wake from slumber...

23 posted on 01/13/2011 12:27:04 PM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto

I’ve read that pedophilia is illegal in about 119 of the 196 countries of the world.

Its legal in the rest.


24 posted on 01/13/2011 12:37:28 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: vimto

Yeah, and apparently by Congressmen from southern Massachusetts.


25 posted on 01/13/2011 12:37:57 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: vimto

While such behavior is probably cultural in some areas, Islam, even the militant variety practiced by the Taliban, would seem very tolerant of having sex with children of either sex.


26 posted on 01/13/2011 12:39:36 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: ScottinVA

You read my mind!


27 posted on 01/13/2011 12:40:02 PM PST by kevslisababy
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To: All

Where are all the Lefty-Catholic haters on this one?


28 posted on 01/13/2011 12:41:04 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: 2banana

You need another rule for the goats.


29 posted on 01/13/2011 12:42:01 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: stuartcr

The people of that region are so inbred that it would be like trying to teach abstinence to cats.


30 posted on 01/13/2011 12:42:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: vimto
"Yet there are signs that we yet might wake from slumber..."

In time?

The same question hangs over America.

31 posted on 01/13/2011 12:45:34 PM PST by Savage Beast (In a free society we’re going to be subject to people like this. I prefer this to the alternative.J)
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To: vimto

This is widely known, but the media and the left completely ignore it.


32 posted on 01/13/2011 12:45:58 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: vimto

Similar piece by Spengler in the Asia Times with additional details:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MA11Df03.html


33 posted on 01/13/2011 12:48:13 PM PST by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: vimto

There was an article recently which told the story of young boys who were trained to dance for and entertain older men in the ME area (perhaps even Afghanistan). After the performance, the young boys were made to have sex with these older men. Does anyone else recall this article?


34 posted on 01/13/2011 12:55:59 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: camerongood210

>After the performance, the young boys were made to have sex with these older men.<

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You’re too critical, didn’t they teach you that all cultures are of equal value?


35 posted on 01/13/2011 2:54:47 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: vimto

I am hoping you do with all my heart. Europe is absolutely beautiful and has some wonderful traditions and such amazing history....I was just there in Paris, Italy, Germany, Belgium, and Luxembourg on holiday last year. Florence was my absolute favorite place, probably because I graduated with a Fine Arts degree. The Louvre was fabulous too. Actually, every place I went to was worth preserving and worth passing on with pride to the next generation. Just hope they think a little more about the future and a need for family.

What is really sad is watching the movie Roman Holiday and seeing all the little children running in the streets and around the fountains. I did not see many small children at all during my visit. Nothing like the Audrey Hepburn movie which was made in the 1950’s I think. That sterility is very sad to me.


36 posted on 01/13/2011 7:15:00 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: vimto

No wonder Jesus mentioned some cities and areas will be tougher in the day of judgement than Sodom and Gomorrha...let it rain hellfire and brimstone; anyone who turns back becomes a pillar of salt, or maybe sh*t.


37 posted on 01/13/2011 11:18:19 PM PST by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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