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Animal Rights... Rooster Kills California Man
cbs47 ^ | 2-7-11 | cakid1

Posted on 02/07/2011 3:14:42 PM PST by cakid1

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To: abbyg55

There’s definitely an element of sadism in there. When Vic would ‘rescue’ a dog from the humane shelter, if it turned out not to be sufficiently aggressive he would torture it to death. Who knows if that kind of sadism will be confined to helpless animals? Eventually it could bleed over into other types of sadism and cruelty.


41 posted on 02/07/2011 3:53:39 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: driftdiver
You see to have a dislike for violence and yet celebrate this guys violent bloody death.

I'm not celebrating his death. If he hadn't been engaged in cock fighting, the rooster would haven't attacked him and he'd still be alive. Decisions have consequences. He chose to torture roosters to get his bloodsport jollies. Well, the rooster didn't like it and took matters into his own hands.

42 posted on 02/07/2011 3:54:10 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: Nakota

LOL damn.


43 posted on 02/07/2011 3:54:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Figment

More like OUCH-oa.


44 posted on 02/07/2011 3:57:56 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Cicero
Of course, adding spurs to their feet changes the game. But I suspect that the winning rooster enjoys it.

Try a kick boxing match where you both have those spurs on your feet and see how it feels. Something tells me the wounds will hurt just as bad even if you win.

45 posted on 02/07/2011 4:00:45 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: randomhero97

“Wow, talk about hyperbole.”

Really where? The guy was cut by a blade. Numerous posters are glorifying that death as deserved.

Wheres the hyperbole?


46 posted on 02/07/2011 4:03:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
So you place animals at the same level as children.

Apparently the courts do, otherwise Michael Vick wouldn't have spent a year jail for dog fighting.

47 posted on 02/07/2011 4:03:34 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: abbyg55

You said “I’m not celebrating his death.”

And in a previous post you stated:

“Good for the rooster. Anyone involved in cock fighting or dog fighting deserves a special place in hell.”

You sure you want to stick with that?


48 posted on 02/07/2011 4:05:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sir_Ed

This death is actually rather funny


49 posted on 02/07/2011 4:07:04 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: abbyg55

“Apparently the courts do, otherwise Michael Vick wouldn’t have spent a year jail for dog fighting. “

So if you kill a couple of dozen children you will only get one year in jail?

Really?


50 posted on 02/07/2011 4:07:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Celtic Cross
...chortling happily about someone dying just because he was less than kind to a damn bird?

I didn't chortle happily. He chose to torture a rooster and the rooster retaliated. Decisions have consequences. And he wasn't just "less than kind to a damn bird." Cock fighting and dog fighting are cruel and sadistic. If you were forced to fight to the death with spurs on your feet, you might feel a little differently.

51 posted on 02/07/2011 4:09:30 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: Fantasywriter
Who knows if that kind of sadism will be confined to helpless animals? Eventually it could bleed over into other types of sadism and cruelty.

It has and does. I read a couple of articles about school mass shooters. It said they started out by torturing kittens, but it got old so they moved up to people. If you'd like the links, I'll try to find them.

52 posted on 02/07/2011 4:15:28 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: driftdiver
You said “I’m not celebrating his death.” And in a previous post you stated: “Good for the rooster. Anyone involved in cock fighting or dog fighting deserves a special place in hell.” You sure you want to stick with that?

I meant good for the rooster for defending himself, instead of allowing himself to be tortured again. And yes I do think that anyone who tortures anyone or anything deserves a special place in hell. Animals usually can't defend themselves, the rooster is an exception. Inflicting agnozing pain on any living creature for someone's sadistic amusement is cruel and inhumane. Are you saying you condone it?

53 posted on 02/07/2011 4:24:31 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: abbyg55

Thanks but I’ll have to pass on the links. I couldn’t bear to read about kittens being tortured to death, though I know it happens. It was your term, ‘bloodlust’ that really caught my eye. Once a person starts sating their bloodlust by torturing animals to death, it really does become a progressive thing. The same level of cruelty that satisfies at first doesn’t continue to satisfy indefinitely.

I wouldn’t trust a child to the care of an adult who tortures animals to death, or who gets a charge out of watching animals being forced to kill each other. It’s a dark side of human nature that needs to be tamped down, and the alternative is definitely dangerous.


54 posted on 02/07/2011 4:26:48 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: cakid1

Outstanding! Good for the rooster.


55 posted on 02/07/2011 4:28:07 PM PST by Gigantor (2012...sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: driftdiver
So if you kill a couple of dozen children you will only get one year in jail? Really?

It's a tricky thing, English - sometimes comparisons aren't exact, sad to say. We just have to depend on the intelligence of the reader to understand the intent and not take it to literal extremes. Splitting hairs seems to be a specialty of yours.

56 posted on 02/07/2011 4:28:42 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: cakid1; All

Is there more information to this than what has been posted? It sounds like the guy who died was just there; it doesn’t say he was doing anything to provoke the rooster or torture it. The article said it was an accident. Am I missing something? Many cultures have animal vs animal fights, animal vs man fights. They’re not right, but to be ‘crowing’ about the rooster’s revenge when it may have been a case of wrong time/wrong place is silly. I don’t agree with animal fighting and it should be prosecuted when it is discovered, but some of these posts are ludicrous.


57 posted on 02/07/2011 4:34:43 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: abbyg55

So you WOULD support the death penalty for trappers, hunters, fishermen and slaughterhouse workers?

I think you’re veering into what Paul preached about, worshiping the creation rather than the creator.

Ed


58 posted on 02/07/2011 4:35:33 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: abbyg55

To digress but slightly, what is your opinion on hunting?


59 posted on 02/07/2011 4:58:43 PM PST by Celtic Cross (Looking to escape to Idaho--Will work for keep.)
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To: Sir_Ed
So you WOULD support the death penalty for trappers, hunters, fishermen and slaughterhouse workers?

It's obvious you didn't read my response to your earlier similar question, so I've repeated it below in its entirety. Might I suggest reading it very slowly and perhaps placing your finger under each word so as to not lose your place?

I thought only Liberals engaged in moral relativism. Cock fighting is nothing like killing animals for food. It’s unspeakably cruel. He didn’t humanely chop off the rooster’s head to eat him, he forced him into fights to the death. It’s bloodlust, pure and simple.

Worded another way, except for vegetarians (which I'm not) we have to kill to eat, it just needs to be done humanely. In case you're still having trouble comprehending words with more than one syllable, I'll answer your question in one: NO.

60 posted on 02/07/2011 5:08:55 PM PST by abbyg55
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