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Large Hadron Collider could be world’s first time machine
Vanderbilt University ^ | March 15, 2011 | David Salisbury

Posted on 03/15/2011 4:20:55 PM PDT by decimon

If the latest theory of Tom Weiler and Chui Man Ho is right, the Large Hadron Collider – the world’s largest atom smasher that started regular operation last year – could be the first machine capable of causing matter to travel backwards in time.

“Our theory is a long shot,” admitted Weiler, who is a physics professor at Vanderbilt University, “but it doesn’t violate any laws of physics or experimental constraints.”

One of the major goals of the collider is to find the elusive Higgs boson: the particle that physicists invoke to explain why particles like protons, neutrons and electrons have mass. If the collider succeeds in producing the Higgs boson, some scientists predict that it will create a second particle, called the Higgs singlet, at the same time.

According to Weiler and Ho’s theory, these singlets should have the ability to jump into an extra, fifth dimension where they can move either forward or backward in time and reappear in the future or past.

“One of the attractive things about this approach to time travel is that it avoids all the big paradoxes,” Weiler said. “Because time travel is limited to these special particles, it is not possible for a man to travel back in time and murder one of his parents before he himself is born, for example. However, if scientists could control the production of Higgs singlets, they might be able to send messages to the past or future.”

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1 posted on 03/15/2011 4:20:56 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Before you start ping.


2 posted on 03/15/2011 4:21:51 PM PDT by decimon
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Can they set it for about two weeks ago?


3 posted on 03/15/2011 4:24:00 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: loungitude

If this is true...can we go back and tell Sonewall to stay out of the woods...were going to need him in PA


4 posted on 03/15/2011 4:28:12 PM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: decimon

I traveled in time, just a couple of days ago.

Saturday night I went to bed, and Sunday when I woke up, I had to reset the clocks because I lost an hour of time. Apparently, this happens twice a year. I guess the machine is only powerful enough to go an hour either way.


5 posted on 03/15/2011 4:31:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: decimon

Send A message back to around 1787. Tell George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson.

“Urgent”

Add to Constitution:

If a man called Obama ever comes along. He cannot be President.


6 posted on 03/15/2011 4:34:11 PM PDT by Revel
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To: decimon

Long, long time ago, there was this big explosion.
Gravity pulled these remnants of the explosion into
a ball. Over time had these acids pooled
on the ball. Lightning struck the pool of acid.
Life was created. A single cell amoeba became man.
Man makes a collider splits subatomic particles into
Higg singlets which jump forward into time before
the big explosion and stops it. So all this never
happened, so I never wrote this.


7 posted on 03/15/2011 4:34:52 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: decimon

Is there any chance we can tell the bosons to tell the morons not to vote for Obama?


8 posted on 03/15/2011 4:35:10 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: decimon

Unfortunately the name always makes me think of gay jousting.


9 posted on 03/15/2011 4:35:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: decimon
Yeah but it can only go forward...


10 posted on 03/15/2011 4:36:23 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: decimon

I’m curious: What’s the speculation about the Fifth Dimension?

Here are the dimensions, as I understand them

1) Width (right to left)
2) Height (top to bottom)
3) Depth (forwards to back)
4) Time (yesterday to tomorrow)

What happens after that?

I’m ignorant. But I have a pet theory: Energy v. Mass, The Big Bang, or “In the Beginning, G-d created”


12 posted on 03/15/2011 4:57:48 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Allah sucks pig teat.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
I’m curious: What’s the speculation about the Fifth Dimension?

It's McCoo coo. Other than that, I know nothing.

13 posted on 03/15/2011 5:07:29 PM PDT by decimon
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To: loungitude
Can they set it for about two weeks ago?

IM with you. I had money in the bank back then.

14 posted on 03/15/2011 5:11:44 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Drink triple, see double, act single.)
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To: decimon

How is that bad boy doing?

I know they had an early problem and saw the repair on “World’s Toughest Fixes”.

Looks like an impressive piece of engrg & construction.

Haven’t heard much lately.


15 posted on 03/15/2011 5:16:18 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: decimon

If travel to the past is possible, then a fixed future from which to travel is necessary.

They’d shut that thing down in a heartbeat if they realized they were proving predestination.


16 posted on 03/15/2011 5:19:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: decimon

if we will be able to go back in time then why didn’t anyone from the future build one so that they could say Hi to us?


17 posted on 03/15/2011 5:20:51 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: decimon
might be able to send messages to the past or future.

Well then its obvious that it never worked out...for starters Obumbler still got elected in 2008 ;)
18 posted on 03/15/2011 5:21:41 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: decimon

Large Hadron Rap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM


19 posted on 03/15/2011 5:21:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: decimon
Evidence of time travel in a Charlie Chaplin flick.

Gal With Cell Phone

20 posted on 03/15/2011 5:22:50 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: decimon

21 posted on 03/15/2011 5:24:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: decimon

22 posted on 03/15/2011 5:26:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: decimon
If a time machine is ever invented it will get US Patent #1.
23 posted on 03/15/2011 5:26:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: decimon

After the iPad what is there to invent? Seriously. If anyone invents a time machine (it’s about time somebody did) it’ll be Apple.


24 posted on 03/15/2011 5:28:35 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ari-freedom
if we will be able to go back in time then why didn’t anyone from the future build one so that they could say Hi to us?

Hi!

25 posted on 03/15/2011 5:29:07 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

And could someone please tell me why we pulled the plug on our own SUPER COLLIDER in Texas?

Billions were spent, it was 7/10ths the way built. It offered hope and promises that only forward thinking people could ever understand!

And it was either Bushie 1 (rhino extraordinaire,) or Bubba, that put a stop to it. (Sorry, I just can’t remember.)

Methinks that if the true story be known, there was a whole lot more there than meets the eye.

But then again, I’m an old Bircher. I still have my little Blue Book. The one that I got ridiculed for. “Where’s your tin foil hat?”

Now I watch Beck, and Hannity and even Rush, proclaim that “Hey, we FOUND a commie under your bed!” Well freakin surprise, surprise A$$hats!!

Read the little blue book. These modern days “visionaries” now know what we did so many years ago. There really was a conspiracy, it really did (does) exist. It really WAS meant to destroy the Republic. (sigh)

Well, no sh!t Sherlock, you’re only 30 years tooooo late and about 14 trillion toooo short.

I must apologize. It’s coming into April, the month that we bugged out on a stalwart ally, millions of people died. Despite what John Effin Currysouce and Janie Porn Queen Fondle said wouldn’t happen.

Good night.


26 posted on 03/15/2011 5:30:58 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (e)
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To: Revolting cat!
If anyone invents a time machine (it’s about time somebody did) it’ll be Apple.

Where Temporal is Jobs 1.

27 posted on 03/15/2011 5:31:57 PM PDT by decimon
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To: ConradofMontferrat
And could someone please tell me why we pulled the plug on our own SUPER COLLIDER in Texas?

The wind died down.

28 posted on 03/15/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Uncle Miltie
I’m curious: What’s the speculation about the Fifth Dimension?

29 posted on 03/15/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Uncle Miltie
There's a book titled Flatland about a group of creatures that live in a two-dimentional world that encounters our three dimentional people. The interaction makes it possible to imagine what a fifth dimention might be like, sorta,

Also, look up tesseract. It might help visualizing extra dimensions

30 posted on 03/15/2011 5:43:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: decimon

Nice ! LOL


31 posted on 03/15/2011 5:44:53 PM PDT by daku
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To: OL Hickory
Spelchek is yur frend.
32 posted on 03/15/2011 5:49:21 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: decimon

“”...the world’s largest atom smasher that started regular operation last year – could be the first machine capable of causing matter to travel backwards in time.”

THAT would be the government subsidized train system we know as Amtrack.


33 posted on 03/15/2011 5:54:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (.)
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To: Revel
Send A message back to around 1787. Tell George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson.

“Urgent”

Add to Constitution:

If a man called Obama ever comes along. He cannot be President.


That was already in there. It was called the "natural born citizen clause". Everybody ignored it anyway.
34 posted on 03/15/2011 5:54:44 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“And could someone please tell me why we pulled the plug on our own SUPER COLLIDER in Texas?”

Home Depot bought the Super Collider tunnel and chopped it up to sell as post holes...


35 posted on 03/15/2011 5:56:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

It was killed in 1993 by Congress. A few buildings were constructed, but nowhere near 7/10ths built.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider


36 posted on 03/15/2011 5:58:46 PM PDT by OCC
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

LMFAOROTF

I’ll bet you’re right on the money with that one! Some chicken farmer or mushroom grower bought those tunnels for about five pennies on the dollar.

Who knows? Maybe that’s where the next crop of “medical maryjane” is gonna come from!

YeeeHaa!


37 posted on 03/15/2011 6:01:06 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (e)
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To: decimon
This reminds me of one of the freakiest movies I ever saw called “Prince of Darkness”

Where people sleeping near a certain place all have the same dream, and it turns out it is a message from the future telling them not to open some thing because it will release the son of the devil...

freaky

38 posted on 03/15/2011 6:04:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT then Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket~!)
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To: decimon

There’s no future in time travel.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 6:09:14 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Uncle Miltie
What’s the speculation about the Fifth Dimension?

I thought they broke up.

40 posted on 03/15/2011 6:10:53 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: decimon
“One of the attractive things about this approach to time travel is that it avoids all the big paradoxes,” Weiler said. “Because time travel is limited to these special particles, it is not possible for a man to travel back in time and murder one of his parents before he himself is born, for example. However, if scientists could control the production of Higgs singlets, they might be able to send messages to the past or future.”

WTF? This still could violate causality. Or am I missing something?

41 posted on 03/15/2011 6:22:40 PM PDT by Paradox (Matthews has the emotional equilibrium of a pregnant, gambling chihuahua on meth.)
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To: OL Hickory
If this is true...can we go back and tell Sonewall to stay out of the woods...were going to need him in PA.

It would have ended the same, just taken longer.

42 posted on 03/15/2011 6:28:36 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Revolting cat!

LOL!


43 posted on 03/15/2011 6:30:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: decimon; JoeProBono; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; ...

Thanks decimon.

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44 posted on 03/15/2011 6:38:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The higher physical dimensions are compressed inside the three you can perceive. That’s what they say. Sort of like being behind the mirror in Alice in Wonderland.


45 posted on 03/15/2011 6:39:42 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: martin_fierro; Swordmaker

http://www.doobybrain.com/2009/01/31/back-to-the-future-time-circuit-panel-for-iphone/
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/delorean-time-machine-iphone-app.jpg


46 posted on 03/15/2011 6:39:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
I’m curious: What’s the speculation about the Fifth Dimension?

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it:
Five-dimensional space

47 posted on 03/15/2011 6:43:04 PM PDT by Humbug (we regret to inform you that this freeper is too busy at the moment to bother with taglines)
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To: Paradox

It takes a lot of optimism to believe that the LHC will even *find* the Higgs — earlier work in the labs that (I believe) are now shut down (the LHC is the only ticket, when it finally works) showed that it probably doesn’t exist. Of course, given the way those Nobel-whores behave, anything they find that doesn’t meet the criteria will still be paraded out as the one, the only, Higgs Boson — sure, it won’t have the right energy etc etc, but it’ll still be the Higgs Boson. :’)


48 posted on 03/15/2011 6:45:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Roccus

Naw, they moved to Colorado to wait for the Age of Aquarius to crank up, man.


49 posted on 03/15/2011 6:46:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think retiring head of Lockheed Skunk Works indicated we’ve had some sort of at least viewing capacity vis a vis time machine sorts of things a lot longer than the collider’s been around.


50 posted on 03/15/2011 6:57:15 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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