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Why North Dakota May Be the Best State in the Country to Live In
Yahoo!Finance ^ | 03/31/2011 | Carla Fried

Posted on 04/03/2011 10:16:27 AM PDT by Silentgypsy

While many states are confronting severe budget shortfalls and dragging economies, North Dakota has a different sort of problem. It's stuck deciding how best to deal with a budget surplus. Yes, a surplus. North Dakota's balance sheet is so strong it recently reduced individual income taxes and property taxes by a combined $400 million, and is debating further cuts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: budget; northdakota; surplus
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Happiness is a budget surplus.
1 posted on 04/03/2011 10:16:35 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

Too fracking cold.


2 posted on 04/03/2011 10:17:59 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

For some reason that was left out of the equation.


4 posted on 04/03/2011 10:19:28 AM PDT by MeSpikeLibs (Wake me when the Obama nightmare is over.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Nothing between you and the North Pole but a barbed wire fence (and it’s been blown down)...


6 posted on 04/03/2011 10:21:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 801 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, where is the 'president'?)
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To: Silentgypsy

This Texan and her family once lived for three and a half years in Williston ND. They were very happy years, in spite of the extreme cold. The people were so warm and friendly, that they made up for cold temps on the thermometer.


7 posted on 04/03/2011 10:21:31 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Silentgypsy

HEY! CALIFORNIA!

There’s gold in North Dakota!


8 posted on 04/03/2011 10:21:48 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: bt579

Gosh mister, that sounded racist the first time...


9 posted on 04/03/2011 10:22:27 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 801 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, where is the 'president'?)
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To: bigheadfred

You misspelled “cold”...


10 posted on 04/03/2011 10:23:14 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 801 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, where is the 'president'?)
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To: Silentgypsy

Aren’t they drilling like crazy out there?

I’ve heard that you can’t rent a room hardly anywhere, due to all the oil workers living in them.

Is this actually the case?


11 posted on 04/03/2011 10:23:23 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Silentgypsy
I live on Maui and it is already climbing to 80 degrees for today. Match that to the temp in N.Dakota today and I say, the difference in taxes is not that important to me. Aloha
12 posted on 04/03/2011 10:24:15 AM PDT by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeh you can only go outside 3 mos out of the year. LOL! Just move to Alaska and get it over with.


13 posted on 04/03/2011 10:26:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: null and void

SHHHH!!!

I don’t want them stopping in Idaho.

Next you’ll be telling them I misspelled beach...


14 posted on 04/03/2011 10:26:16 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It isn’t always too fracking cold in ND. In the summer it is often too fracking hot.


15 posted on 04/03/2011 10:27:19 AM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: null and void; bt579
Gosh mister, that sounded racist the first time...

Yeah, but he IS Eric Holder. So it's all good.

16 posted on 04/03/2011 10:29:28 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: Silentgypsy
While many states are confronting severe budget shortfalls and dragging economies, North Dakota has a different sort of problem. It's stuck deciding how best to deal with a budget surplus. Yes, a surplus. North Dakota's balance sheet is so strong it recently reduced individual income taxes and property taxes by a combined $400 million, and is debating further cuts.

Yeah, but, do you know where that place is?

17 posted on 04/03/2011 10:31:04 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Silentgypsy
Q: Why is it so windy in Eastern Montana?

A: Because North Dakota sucks.

Old rivalry.

Drill NoDaks! Drill!

18 posted on 04/03/2011 10:31:32 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Silentgypsy

I read this last night and checked out craigslist for both ND and Bismarck, almost no jobs. It’s a joke.


19 posted on 04/03/2011 10:31:37 AM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: MinorityRepublican

RE: Too fracking cold.

The reaon why people still opt to STAY in California even with the huge budget deficit, huge state debt, higher taxes, and an intractable immigration problem is this -— GOD GIVEN WEATHER.

People will tolerate lots of disadvantages for this one factor.

In fact, other than Hawaii, I can’t find any other state in this country with the natural weather advantage that California affords.

Unless the Dakota man-made advantage far outweighs the man-made problems of California, I don’t see how Dakota’s natural weather disadvantage can encourage people to migrate to their part of the world.

EDIT TO ADD : Maybe a Japan-like earthquake or two would change people’s minds ( God forbid )


20 posted on 04/03/2011 10:31:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Silentgypsy

Most of civilized Canada is warmer than ND. Move to ND...you’ll be cold 11 months out of the year.


21 posted on 04/03/2011 10:34:39 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Silentgypsy
reduced individual income taxes

Texas still doesn't have a State income tax.

22 posted on 04/03/2011 10:42:26 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Silentgypsy

Think I could do without having to read temperatures according to the kelvin scale.


23 posted on 04/03/2011 10:44:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Silentgypsy

Given the choice of hot vs. cold, I will choose hot.


24 posted on 04/03/2011 10:47:28 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: SeekAndFind

A good many of us stay in Michigan just because its absolutely beautiful and sportsman friendly.

Fortunately the leeches appear to be fleeing and we’re fixing Michigan.


25 posted on 04/03/2011 10:49:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Why North Dakota May Be the Best State in the Country to Live In

Did they forget to mention the mild winters?

26 posted on 04/03/2011 10:55:58 AM PDT by umgud
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To: digger48

“...can’t rent a room anywhere...is it true?...”

It is true but only in the western part of the state where the drilling occurs.

The reach of the boom is long. You’ll see oil company trucks gassing up early in the morning in Miles City, Montana, which is over one hundred miles from the heart of activity, and the same thing in Minot, N.D., which is 175 miles from the Montana border.

But you could rent a room in Miles City or Minot. You talk about Williston, right on the state line, over past Stanley and Parshall, seventy or eighy miles away-—you will live in a camper if you can find one or pay mightily.

My sister lives in Watford City, just east of Williston. Friend of hers rented out his whole house (he built a new one for himself I think), four bedrooms, couple baths, nothing fancy, to six guys for $1500/month...apiece. That’s nine grand a month. In North Dakota. In winter!

Five years ago that house would have brought $600 a month...


27 posted on 04/03/2011 10:56:42 AM PDT by lurp
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Why North Dakota May Be the Best State in the Country to Live In

The beautiful mountains and the warm climate.

28 posted on 04/03/2011 11:02:18 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Silentgypsy
Spent part of a summer in Jamestown. Drove my first tractor-trailer (underage, mind you) for Haybuster Mfg. Joe Anderson, RIP.

it was a nice place. But that was before gangs and the Internet and every nook and cranny of this once-great land going to hell in a flaming handbasket.

29 posted on 04/03/2011 11:11:16 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: bt579
PLUS, ND has one of the lowest number of Eric Holders people in the country.

Say, can you elaborate on this just a bit, lest we misunderstand you?

30 posted on 04/03/2011 11:12:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Florida, average temp during this freezing weather 75 (used heat twice). San Diego got snow.


31 posted on 04/03/2011 11:13:25 AM PDT by BushCountry (Make Love Not Kinetic Military Action)
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To: magslinger

Lived in Montana for 6 years. Much the same as North Dakota, Wyoming...etc..
I like the seasons there...I spent a year in Florida and HATED it!


32 posted on 04/03/2011 11:41:42 AM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Fargo has a significant stained-glass industry, doesn’t it?

I hear it’s so cold they can cut glass with their nipples.


33 posted on 04/03/2011 11:43:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (How dare you take pride in your state.)
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To: fish hawk

You live in Hawaii? That must be awesome. I am happy for you.


34 posted on 04/03/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Will a hero rise in 2012?)
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To: the lastbestlady

I like a nice change of seasons as well as the next guy but from -40 to 100+ is a little extreme. I also like the fact that as long as I stay in my state I am never much more than 100 miles from a great lake.


35 posted on 04/03/2011 11:57:22 AM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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I’m right there with you! I picked Montana, but the Great Lakes are my idea of a good time. Thankfully, I am close, once again!


36 posted on 04/03/2011 12:00:01 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Why? Why is the government having more taxpayer money than it plans to spend a good thing?

Surplusses lead to either expanding spending projects, or “giving the money back” which gives everyone the same dollar amount, regardless of how much tax they paid, which is quite literally the re-distribution of wealth.


37 posted on 04/03/2011 12:12:23 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MattinNJ
Pretty awesome living on Maui. I came here for a ten day vacation in 1969 and never left. I know a good thing when I see it. LOL
38 posted on 04/03/2011 12:27:01 PM PDT by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: Silentgypsy

North Dakota is so flat that if you look straight ahead you can see the back of your head.

The state tree is the telephone pole.

The state bird is the mosquito.

What snows in September doesn't melt until the following April.

39 posted on 04/03/2011 12:30:59 PM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: Silentgypsy

If you are considering a move to North Dakota, better be prepared for a brutal winter and never ending winds. Driving I-29 from the South Dakota border to Fargo you will also find what has to be the flattest place on earth...I swear you could make a topo map of that area with no more than two lines.


40 posted on 04/03/2011 12:33:17 PM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: the lastbestlady

Great lakes, good times!


41 posted on 04/03/2011 1:00:32 PM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: BufordP

And snow doesn’t fall it flies by horizontally and makes drifts called “snirt”. Loved the hunting, fishing and hot schnapps though.


42 posted on 04/03/2011 1:02:03 PM PDT by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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To: magslinger

That’s for sure!


43 posted on 04/03/2011 1:06:47 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Silentgypsy

I could never deal with their winters. I am sure a nice place but way too cold and snowy. Money is nice but not the end all be all.


44 posted on 04/03/2011 1:53:19 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: fish hawk

I live on Maui and it is already climbing to 80 degrees for today. Match that to the temp in N.Dakota today and I say, the difference in taxes is not that important to me. Aloha

You my FRiend do live in paradise. I am so glad that a FREEPER is enjoying their life. It is nice to see.


45 posted on 04/03/2011 1:55:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: digger48

My brother is a surveyor, and is in the Williston area right now. He sees future plans for development and there is a lot coming.
The housing shortage is real. Not enough housing for the oil crews, and certainly no housing for housing construction crews.


46 posted on 04/03/2011 2:07:34 PM PDT by gigster
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To: Silentgypsy

Hey, NH doesn’t have a state income tax (or sales tax) to reduce.


47 posted on 04/03/2011 2:17:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Michael.SF.
Given the choice of hot vs. cold, I will choose hot.

If it's 100 degrees outside, and you'd like your house to be 80, that's a 20-degree adjustment. If it's -20 degrees outside, and you'd like your house to be 60, that's an 80-degree adjustment.

48 posted on 04/03/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: fish hawk
That makes the story more amazing. You had the inner fortitude to say "The heck with it, I am staying here"

Good for you. I find myself saying "One day, I will leave Joisey"

Do me a favor. Tomorrow, go to an outdoor cafe, order yourself a nice cheeseburger and a brew, put your feet up, and bask in the weather and appreciate your decision instead of just being used to it. Let me know how awesome that feeling is. Perhaps it will inspire me to get off my butt, and get out of here.

49 posted on 04/03/2011 10:32:39 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Will a hero rise in 2012?)
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To: MattinNJ
Your thinking is right on. I go on and on every day just enjoying my life here and once in awhile, actually quite often I stop and look around and say, thank you Lord for bringing me to this island paradise. In my 42 years here on Maui I have never once been sorry for moving here.
50 posted on 04/04/2011 12:40:15 AM PDT by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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