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Ooops! Biodegradeable products release methane which is more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | May 31, 2011 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 06/03/2011 4:21:55 PM PDT by PROCON

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“In other words,” Barlaz says, “biodegradable products are not necessarily more environmentally friendly when disposed in landfills.

Bu, bu, but Algore told me that green is good!/s

1 posted on 06/03/2011 4:22:01 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ping-a-ling!


2 posted on 06/03/2011 4:22:56 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common Sense.)
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To: PROCON

Unintended consequences.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 4:24:07 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin - She’s living rent-free inside the MSM’s heads. Credited to Lurk)
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To: PROCON

Liberals always produce the opposite effect of their intent.


4 posted on 06/03/2011 4:24:07 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: PROCON

Bwahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahha


5 posted on 06/03/2011 4:25:15 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: PROCON

The solution for very gassy landfills is to drill some wells, collect and condition the gas, and run it into a gas turbine genset. This is nothing new, in fact it is a common practice.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 4:33:29 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: PROCON

Remarkably silly article.

The engineered-to-be-biodegradable products are a tiny proportion of the total biodegradable materials in every landfill.

Food waste, contents of disposable diapers, newspapers (a lot fewer of these than in the past), yard waste, paper of all types, etc., etc.

Whether the plastic bag around a mass of biodegradable materials is itself also biodegradable seems much ado about very little.


7 posted on 06/03/2011 4:34:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PROCON

Methane, CH4, is the smallest hydrocarbon molecule, and is known to leak into the atmosphere in several places on the globe. Check up what “swampgas” is.

We have an abundance of CH4 (natural gas) in the ground and on the sea floor. Some of it, because of its small molecular size will seep out to the atmosphere — it plainly cannot be prevented.


8 posted on 06/03/2011 4:37:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: JoeProBono; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks PROCON. There’s probably a study that shows that the manufacture of Beano *causes* a net increase in methane.


9 posted on 06/03/2011 4:39:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: PROCON

Thats unexpected.


10 posted on 06/03/2011 4:41:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fred Hayek
The solution for very gassy landfills is to drill some wells, collect and condition the gas, and run it into a gas turbine genset. This is nothing new, in fact it is a common practice.

Not far from my place is a hog packing plant with a huge
burn off torch for their waste lagoon. About 1/4 mile away
is a grain drying business with huge LP tanks to run the
dryers. Drives me nuts every time I see it!

11 posted on 06/03/2011 4:46:26 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: TigersEye

ping & lmao


12 posted on 06/03/2011 4:55:11 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: PROCON

Do other biological processes on earth consume methane, or does it just stay out there in the atmosphere to work its mischief? Surely earth has had its share of methane swamps for ages.


13 posted on 06/03/2011 4:55:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: PROCON

Let’s see:

“Biodegradeable” means to “break down” by “natural processes” in the soil - as opposed to remaining in tact,

which means to be “metabolized” by organisms in the soil,

which means to be “consumed”, “eaten” by organisms in the soil;

and, as it seems, farts are mostly methane and even refuse devouring organisms in the soil fart while they eat, and given as much as we feed them, they fart a lot.

Duh!!!!

Now who wasn’t smarter than a fifth grader?


14 posted on 06/03/2011 4:58:15 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SunkenCiv

15 posted on 06/03/2011 4:59:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: pandoraou812

The landfills aren’t as gassy as the vegan enviro-wackos themselves. ;^)


16 posted on 06/03/2011 5:03:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
True. But I am checking everything now. If its able to dissolve easily when I need to put hot water in it, then I don't want it. My luck I would get burned...
17 posted on 06/03/2011 5:08:02 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: PROCON

Nothing is “environmentally-friendly”, once its in a landfill !! They are, in essence, a stewpot of varigated chemicals, organics and metals being “cooked” by the heat of decomposition while discharging toxics in varying levels in the form of gasses or lechates. Smart operators grab the methane by-product.

On the “plus” side, our landfills are also repositories of valuable metals/chemicals “scrapped” in more prolifigate eras. They’re also a repository of valuable data on our life-styles, history and culture. >PS


18 posted on 06/03/2011 5:15:14 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: CrazyIvan

I have worked on one project with one generator manufacturer on a project for gensets using digestor gas from pig manure tanks. The gas is a combination of methane and carbon dioxide, so the engine timing (these were reciprocating spark engines) had to be worked on. The market is out there, and the fuel is already there to be burnt and utilized.


19 posted on 06/03/2011 5:26:17 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Fred Hayek

I’ll resist the “Master-Blaster” jokes. I hear that storage
is a big problem with methane, also that it is very
corrosive. Is that true?


20 posted on 06/03/2011 5:51:14 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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