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Japan to fine or jail computer virus creators
AFP ^ | June 17, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 06/17/2011 4:25:24 PM PDT by decimon

TOKYO (AFP) – Japan will punish people who create or wilfully spread computer viruses with fines and prison terms of up to three years under a new law enacted by parliament.

Under the law, police can seize email communication logs of suspects from Internet service providers, among other information.

The action, which has met with opposition from privacy and free speech advocates, brings Japan a step closer to concluding the Convention on Cybercrime, a Europe-led effort.

The convention is the first international treaty to combat crimes committed via the Internet and other computer networks. Japan has signed the treaty but must pass relevant domestic laws to conclude it.

Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reason face prison terms up to three years or fines up to 500,000 yen (6,200 dollars).

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computersecurity; malware
As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more. Here in the US they'll be kicking in doors over suspected cyber crimes.
1 posted on 06/17/2011 4:25:28 PM PDT by decimon
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To: ShadowAce

Ping


2 posted on 06/17/2011 4:36:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reason

What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?

3 posted on 06/17/2011 4:43:38 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: decimon

Just publish their names and addresses.


4 posted on 06/17/2011 4:54:48 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: RikaStrom
Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reason

What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?

You might right now have a virus unknowingly and be spreading it inadvertently. Maybe that's what they mean.

5 posted on 06/17/2011 5:00:01 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
People who create and release computer viruses should be publicly flogged to death naked with lead-tipped length of barbed wire while being hosed down with hot vinegar.

But then again, I'm a moderate

6 posted on 06/17/2011 5:50:38 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: muir_redwoods

I’m with you.


7 posted on 06/17/2011 6:40:48 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: decimon

IF they’re actually convicted and found guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt - then this punishment is not NEARLY enough.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 9:37:33 PM PDT by MCH
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To: decimon
Those who deliberately store a computer virus face up to two years in prison or fines up to 300,000 yen.

I hope this is an error in translation. Studying a virus can provide lots of learning opportunities. I even have a friend who collects some of the more interesting ones as a novelty.

9 posted on 06/17/2011 9:46:00 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: RikaStrom

An instructor in a computer security class would have a justifiable reason to distribute malware for the students to study.


10 posted on 06/17/2011 9:47:11 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: decimon
As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more.

I'm with you.

11 posted on 06/17/2011 9:48:29 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: decimon
“As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more.”

Yep, same crap with these jackbooted child porn and drug investigations. The government likes to exploit people's emotions to lower the burden of proof and take us away from “innocent until proved guilty”.

NYPD recently did a city-wide child porn possession bust. They posted each suspect’s name, occupation and address. It made front page news. I find it disgusting that they can essentially ruin people's lives with no trial. The media will NEVER write a follow-up article if any of them are found not guilty.

With such a low burden of proof, it's too easy to plant evidence, hijack someones machine or hijack their wireless router. If you have typical security, anyone(including someone in the government) who doesn't like you can make your IP logs look like a violent pervert or hacker.

The same applies to drug possession with no other evidence. A planted silver-dollar sized package of 90% baking powder can give you a mandatory sentence of several years and ruin your life. No other evidence needed. It's SO easy for law enforcement to do and I have first-hand experience of seeing this happen.

12 posted on 06/18/2011 9:06:16 AM PDT by varyouga
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13 posted on 06/20/2011 5:12:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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14 posted on 06/20/2011 5:13:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: RikaStrom
What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?

Disabling an Iranian reactor.

15 posted on 06/20/2011 6:22:15 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks for the ping.


16 posted on 06/20/2011 8:02:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: decimon
Under the law, police can seize email communication logs of suspects from Internet service providers, among other information.

I'd be surprised if they couldn't do that in this country now with a warrant.

17 posted on 06/20/2011 8:06:34 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: decimon

Dangerous. Consider the defense “Computer security is my hobby/profession, and I wrote this virus as part of my research.” That needs to be a valid reason or you’re going to put a lot of innocent people in jail. OTOH, anybody could claim this reason, making the law useless.

Remember, the Morris Worm was innocently designed to gauge the size of the then-small Internet, not to bring the Internet to a crawl as it did. Under a law like this, Morris could have been prosecuted just for having created it in the lab.


18 posted on 06/20/2011 11:11:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce

Fines are not good enough. Jail with a minimum 15 year sentence is appropriate for the first offense.


19 posted on 06/20/2011 10:24:13 PM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: muir_redwoods

The punishment you propose is harsh and exactly what is needed. I understand you are moderate on how far you would go to punish them but we must show at least a little compassion.


20 posted on 06/20/2011 10:27:15 PM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: RikaStrom
Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reason
What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?
Any suggestions how anyone would become expert at antivirus work if they got arrested for experimenting with virus programs?

21 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:38 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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