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Obama Tried To Redefine "Hostilities." In His Speech He Tried To Redefine The "Middle Course"
6/22/2011 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 06/22/2011 6:40:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

In his speech tonight, Obama brought up Libya and how the U.S. must chart a course that is not isolationist, nor interventionist, but a middle course where our coalition partners (NATO) would be involved.

So if we together with our NATO partners are involved it isn't interventionism? How so? Has Obama explained how Libya was a threat to our national security? If we must respond to other NATO partners request for military assistance, has the president explained how Libya threatened any of our NATO partners national securitty?

It is reported that before this war broke out that we were getting involved because Ghadifi planned to massacre civilians, but it was also reported that Ghadifi had planned to nationalize the oil resources in Libya and that most of Libya's oil went to one European nation in particular.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: congress; constitution; libya; obama; wot
Is interventionism by any other name still the same?
1 posted on 06/22/2011 6:40:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

What say you?


2 posted on 06/22/2011 6:42:22 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What say you?

I say that the term 'moderate', or its many cousins, is the father of disaster.

3 posted on 06/22/2011 6:45:36 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama Tried To Redefine "Hostilities." In His Speech He Tried To Redefine The "Middle Course"

And, this is a surprise to whom??

4 posted on 06/22/2011 6:46:12 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Cannot watch, uncomfortable when someone lies to your face


5 posted on 06/22/2011 6:47:49 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Its a moderately kinetic middle course caused by the previous administration.

/s/


6 posted on 06/22/2011 6:50:57 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“Is interventionism by any other name still the same? “

Oh, but world government is oh-so OK.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 6:51:04 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes, Obama thinks he can redefine reality


8 posted on 06/22/2011 6:51:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: ronnie raygun

Obama’s speech was mostly about Afghanistan, but the drawdown speech was partly to buy breathing room for what Obama is doing with Libya.


9 posted on 06/22/2011 6:51:42 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He was just reading from the teleprompter


10 posted on 06/22/2011 6:55:18 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The loon is much more comfortable voting...”present”.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 6:55:51 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I need to go shower. Someone just pissed all over my back and told me it was raining.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 6:58:54 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It all depends on the meaning of “is”. Zero is the same brand of scammer as the Klintons, he’s just not as bright.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 7:00:37 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I hate Idiots and a Idiot reading Lies is a bit much.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 7:12:00 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Welcome to Oceania.

15 posted on 06/22/2011 7:12:20 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well the House leader (What’s his name .. Boner?) .. He has spoken and he approves of the speech.

(Just heard it on my local news)


16 posted on 06/22/2011 7:17:25 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: Cheetahcat

Can anyone name one speech where this man has not lied?


17 posted on 06/22/2011 7:19:05 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Support the troops. Every Friday night at Walter Reed.)
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To: AGreatPer

“Can anyone name one speech where this man has not lied?”

Good Point and the answer is;Hell NO.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 7:22:48 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Let me be clear. I will not take a radical “middle course”, nor will I take a futile “middle course”. I will take a moderate, warm, politically correct, acceptable to every American, course — somewhat in the middle.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 7:48:56 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Cheetahcat

With the big screw up in Libya and now Afghanistan, I am surprised that we haven’t had at least one high profile resignation by a general. Is it just politics for them too?


20 posted on 06/22/2011 7:55:21 PM PDT by Phillipian (Post Tenebras Lux)
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To: Phillipian

“With the big screw up in Libya and now Afghanistan, I am surprised that we haven’t had at least one high profile resignation by a general. Is it just politics for them too?”

Looks like they are playing Politics as well,This Communist Bastard really screwed up the country.


21 posted on 06/22/2011 8:07:15 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m no Ron Paul fan but the fact is the only coherence coming out of Washington on these wars comes from him at this point.

I won’t even attempt to paraphrase the Obo’s razzle dazzle on Afghanistan tonight except to note it was all about him being re-elected—which everyone here knows.

No one ever defines what “victory” in Afghanistan would be, and tonight the Obo proposed not victory at all but a “responsible” withdrawal. What is that? Candidate Oblowhard pushed for more attention to Afghanistan and less to Iraq—but never said anything about seeking a “responsible” finish. “Hope, change and responsibility in Afghanistan!”

On the other hand, there are the pro-Petraeus neo-con types who say if we just stay two more years then, um, well, um...

I heard a half-dozen say we needed to get control of “eastern Afghnaistan” but Obo didn’t deploy enough troops to go there. OK. Then let’s just nuke eastern Afghanistan off the face of the earth. Nuke it. After all, who would miss it? And if it’s SO VERY IMPORTANT....

And when you’re fighting to win wouldn’t your best stuff be the way to go?? And aren’t nukes our best stuff?

And if we’re not fighting to win why are we fighting?

Like I said, I don’t really like Ron Paul but...


22 posted on 06/22/2011 8:17:09 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama made another speech?

When?
Bet it was over 40 minutes.

23 posted on 06/22/2011 10:44:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: Cheetahcat
Mission Decomplished 06-22-11
He failed......

He lied and double-talked....

He surrendered.....

Conservative Republicans need to expose this fragile, thin veil of a presidential image, held in place by a teleprompter and the piss-stream media.

Hopefully Zer0's massive incompetence will move more to vote against him in 2012. We'll see.


24 posted on 06/22/2011 11:29:06 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

My idea to fix Afghanistan is simple go to every single cave opening in the eastern mountains stick a large bomb in them and close them up. Then you only need to cover the foot paths through the mountains and the war is over much quicker.


25 posted on 06/23/2011 12:14:01 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: BobP

“He failed......

He lied and double-talked....

He surrendered.....

Conservative Republicans need to expose this fragile, thin veil of a presidential image, held in place by a teleprompter and the piss-stream media.

Hopefully Zer0’s massive incompetence will move more to vote against him in 2012. We’ll see.”

He has bought, the whole Nation down to his and the voters that support him,same illiterate level..


26 posted on 06/23/2011 9:47:16 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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