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Who makes the best cars?
finance.yahoo.com ^ | 03/14/2011 | Consumer Reports.org

Posted on 06/30/2011 8:52:20 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha

Honda and Subaru still make the best vehicles overall, but Ford posted the largest gain in the past year, improving in its road-test and reliability scores. General Motors and Volvo also improved in both areas. On the other hand, Mercedes-Benz is the only manufacturer whose scores dropped in both measures.

Our automaker report cards reflect the performance, comfort, utility, and reliability of more than 270 vehicles that we’ve recently tested. Here are other highlights from this year’s analysis:

•Honda, Subaru, and Toyota are the top three automakers for the third year in a row. Most of their vehicles do well in our tests and are relatively trouble-free.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: cars
Toyota is still in the top 3; who would know with all the negative publicity they received! Chrysler is last...no surprises here.
1 posted on 06/30/2011 8:52:23 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I own a Toyota and a Honda.

I’ll always own a Toyota...I don’t care how many Prius’ can’t stop on the highway.


2 posted on 06/30/2011 8:55:35 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Matchbox and you can’t beat their gas milage!


3 posted on 06/30/2011 8:55:59 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I grew up with GM, but now drive a Honda.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 8:56:17 AM PDT by brivette
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To: hattend

After extensive testing by a panel of experts, Consumer Reports found to be among the least reliable sources of accurate consumer information, finishing third behind AARP and the perennial leader, the DNC.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 8:58:04 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Yay Subaru! Love my new Outback.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 9:00:04 AM PDT by republicangel
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To: San Jacinto

‘Consumer Reports found to be among the least reliable sources of accurate consumer information, finishing third behind AARP and the perennial leader, the DNC.’

I could not agree more!


7 posted on 06/30/2011 9:00:39 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

“Volvo’s the only reliabile european car”... only keep them as long as the new car warranty is good, then sell or trade in.


8 posted on 06/30/2011 9:01:00 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: brivette

My Dad retired from GM in 1981 and was a very loyal UAW member. I now drive a 2009 Chevy Malibu but also have a 2002 Ford Explorer to pull my boat. My wife drives a new Hyundai Elantra and it gets incredible gas mileage. I am pleased with all three vehicles.


9 posted on 06/30/2011 9:02:21 AM PDT by jacksonstate
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To: brivette

My Dad retired from GM in 1981 and was a very loyal UAW member. I now drive a 2009 Chevy Malibu but also have a 2002 Ford Explorer to pull my boat. My wife drives a new Hyundai Elantra and it gets incredible gas mileage. I am pleased with all three vehicles.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 9:02:22 AM PDT by jacksonstate
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To: ThinkingBuddha
Include low depreciation as a factor, just my opinion, of course.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 9:03:21 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: ThinkingBuddha

My Outback SW went over a hundred thousand miles before I had one repair. Hard to complain.


12 posted on 06/30/2011 9:06:04 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Is Infinity (Nissan) mention?


13 posted on 06/30/2011 9:08:16 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I used to think Obama was an empty suit but now I think he has filled his pants." ~badgerlandjim)
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To: ThinkingBuddha
I am delighted with my Prius and my Tundra.

My 96 Ford Explorer is a great car for my son.

We just bought a used travel trailer and we are trading in our 2005 Tundra for a 2007 one this evening. I refuse to buy a Government Motors truck or one made by the UAW.

14 posted on 06/30/2011 9:09:09 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: San Jacinto

CR is so Jap biased it stinks. One year they rated the Mitsubishi Eclipse far higher than the Dodge Stealth.


15 posted on 06/30/2011 9:09:12 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Hyundai was not mentioned in this report, but everything else I have read it seems they are rapidly passing or have already passed Honda, Toyota etc in reliability.

I have a Genesis Coupe and it is one of the best cars I have ever owned.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 9:13:40 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I second the Bimmer


17 posted on 06/30/2011 9:14:15 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: gitmogrunt

My Volvo is 16 years old and is still running strong. I had the first major repair bill last year, when some plate underneath the car that protects the axle needed replacing.

I want a new car very badly and every time I persuade my husband to go car shopping the salesman remarks, “but you aren’t going to get rid of this car, are you?” “ This car can easily do 200,000 miles.” or “This car is in such good condition and it’s the best model that Volvo ever made.”

I just want a new car with all the new interior amenities, - LIKE CUP HOLDERS! LOL!


18 posted on 06/30/2011 9:15:09 AM PDT by Eva
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To: republicangel

hippie!!!..... :)


19 posted on 06/30/2011 9:18:53 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: brivette

Same here, and I’ll never even look at GM again.


20 posted on 06/30/2011 9:28:27 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

One of our Toyota’s has 190000 miles, and other than routine oil change and tire replacement has never been in a shop. We have been very happy with Toyota. and its vehicles.


21 posted on 06/30/2011 9:31:14 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Hyundai is the most bang for the buck.


22 posted on 06/30/2011 9:31:49 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I love my Civic. Most dependable car I’ve ever had.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 9:32:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: brivette

I grew up with GM. 4 years ago I bought a Toyota Camry,and now I wonder what took me so long.

116,000 miles on it now , I change my own oil, I put brakes on it at 85,000, changed the plugs at 100,000, New tires ,and that is the limit to my spending.

The dealer hasnt seen me since he sold it to me.

30 MPG average , got 36 once with a tailwind coming back from Myrtle Beach.


24 posted on 06/30/2011 9:33:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: dfwgator

I have a 98 Civic EX. It has 240k miles. Here’s the list of problems:
Hole in exhaust pipe between catalytic converter and muffler
Catalytic converter replaced after 220k.
2 starters (1 at around 85k, another around 150k)
A/C went out around 200k
Driver’s window motor went out around 200k.
That’s it other than routine stuff. The powertrain runs like it’s brand new and it still handles and rides the same as they day I bought it. I also have an 05 Accord V6 with 140k and I’ve not had any mechanical problems at all with it.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Don’t forget Kia my sis has the Sorento and it has over 100k without a problem. I have an employee of mine who owns the new Optima and it is a very nice car!


26 posted on 06/30/2011 9:50:50 AM PDT by jacksonstate
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To: ThinkingBuddha

After decades of driving Chevies, I bought a Mazda 3 and at almost 85,000 miles have yet to have any major repair. I have replaced tires, the battery (after 5 years) and a headlamp bulb, but yet to have any problems with anything on the vehicle. Note this Mazda was made in Japan not at unionized Mazda plants in the US.


27 posted on 06/30/2011 9:51:09 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Agreed. My Entourage with remote access system, third row seating, etc. was under $20,000 and has been the best vehicle I can remember owning. The first 5K miles I got right at 20 miles/gal mixed driving. I’m now getting 24 mixed and 28 highway. Great vehicle for all around use. With the thrid row stored dwon int he floor, the cargo area is awesome.


28 posted on 06/30/2011 9:54:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: commish

When I saw the Genesis sedan last year my jaw dropped. Nice car and seems to be a great alternative for those of us wanting a 5-series but can’t afford it.


29 posted on 06/30/2011 9:56:03 AM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: hattend

I love my Honda CRV. Drove my first one for 7 years and the only thing I ever did was change out the battery and take it for normal servicing. Have had my new one for 5 years and its never hiccuped the wrong way.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 9:56:24 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: The Great RJ

My Mazda 3 is the best car I’ve ever had. Hands DOWN!


31 posted on 06/30/2011 9:56:30 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll
Just FYI.
Your Mazda 3 is a Focus in different sheet-metal.
32 posted on 06/30/2011 10:03:33 AM PDT by right way right
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To: CrazyIvan

“CR is so Jap biased it stinks.”

You got that right.
I’ve never owned a Japanese car, but my father had a Nissan 410. It was supposed to have a 240Z engine. It definitely had metallic fabric fuel injection hoses. The last time we saw it the engine compartment was on fire. So he owned one.

Happy Birthday America.


33 posted on 06/30/2011 10:04:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (Be American, buy American)
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To: San Jacinto
After extensive testing by a panel of experts, Consumer Reports found to be among the least reliable sources of accurate consumer information, finishing third behind AARP and the perennial leader, the DNC.

I am curious to know how you find consumer reports to be unreliable? Any study or source to discredit their research? I have always used their recommendations when making purchases, and have never gone wrong on a purchase.
34 posted on 06/30/2011 10:11:22 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: tumblindice

It wasn’t a Nissan. It was a Datsun. What was that, 1974? Believe it or not Nissans have improved slightly since then.

I’ve been in the car business for 20 years. With a “dualed” dealership, Toyota and GM. We sell about 10/1 toyota over GM. Guess which ones consistently come back with problems? One clue. It ain’t toyota. You’d figure at 10/1 you’d have 10 times as many problem toyotas come in. Nope. It’s 10/1 the other way.


35 posted on 06/30/2011 10:19:57 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

I hate their rating system... Let’s see, is a solid red circle better than a half red circle? Or is a solid black circle the best? What about the empty circle? I have to check the key every time I infrequently use CR... heh

If a manufacturer used a system as obtuse as theirs, CR would excoriate them for it, like when they ding a Corvette for its lack of luggage space.

Why don’t they use a 1-10 numbering system for each component they are judging? Much easier. Plus, readers could compile their own rankings of a product by eliminating the components that they aren’t concerned about (like trunk space in a Corvette), and then calculating their own final result.


36 posted on 06/30/2011 10:24:53 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: right way right

Fine with me. It was manufactured in Japan by mature adults and it works perfectly. I’ve had a Ford. No thanks.


37 posted on 06/30/2011 11:07:45 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: ThinkingBuddha

The critiques of CR’s sampling methods and innate biases are legion (especially as to autos). One example out of hundreds: http://www.allpar.com/cr.html


38 posted on 06/30/2011 1:22:11 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: The Toll

I like the Mazda better also. Way nicer looking and better interior.


39 posted on 06/30/2011 6:40:41 PM PDT by right way right
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To: joe fonebone

I guess some heads would explode if I put a Palin bumpersticker on it. :)


40 posted on 06/30/2011 7:01:46 PM PDT by republicangel
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