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Casey Anthony Live Trial Thread, Day 44 (7/01/11)
Free Republic | July 1, 2011 | truthkeeper

Posted on 07/01/2011 5:02:44 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Good morning to all.

I thought I would get this thread up bright and early so I could concentrate on work until the trial begins. I believe it starts at 9:00 a.m. today.

The State is presenting its important rebuttal case, which will include two Gentiva representatives, one of which will likely be a custodian of records. That person would need to authenticate Cindy's time sheets, which were subpoenaed. The State plans to admit that evidence to impeach her testimony that it was she, and not Casey, who did the computer searches on chloroform. The chloroform searches go directly to premeditation, a critical element in a death penalty case.

I understand that closing arguments will be heard Saturday (tomorrow) and then the jury will "get deliberated." (I love saying that!)

Time to put on a big pot of coffee...


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To: SE Mom

Just look at her “party pics” and take note of her companions. Wouldn’t you think she could get her hands on whatever she wanted, whether it’s ready-made chloroform or Xanax or even more sinister things? She wasn’t hanging out with people from the social register.


601 posted on 07/02/2011 8:32:22 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: screaminsunshine

No, I don’t get it. You said that maggots cause “smells.” Garbage cause smells, rotting meat cause smells but maggots are not particularly smelly. And none of these things smell like the Smell of Death. Get it?


602 posted on 07/02/2011 8:38:11 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: MizSterious
Obviously, Crazy Casey was looking for methods to kill her daughter. That's pretty much been proven yesterday by the Prosecution. But I'm not sure about the chloroform (sp?). Isn't it just as easy to assume that she simply duct taped the child's nose and mouth and suffocated her to death?
603 posted on 07/02/2011 8:49:03 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes the maggots ate the meat that caused the smell.


604 posted on 07/02/2011 8:55:15 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: MizSterious

The PI’s are part of the evidence as is the “Psychic” She stated she had no interest in them.


605 posted on 07/02/2011 8:56:43 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: MizSterious

Agreed- I think she could get anything from her pals- I’m just curious why the state wasn’t able to find evidence of it..

BUT- this is a circumstantial case and that’s just one of the mysteries that may never be answered.


606 posted on 07/02/2011 9:06:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I do suspect that the police could have done more. For instance, we already know they could have checked out the meter reader’s report—that’s on the record. The scripted teevee detectives would have unearthed a lot more—but on the more reality-based shows like the First 48, you see that they miss some things, and sometimes just take off for a night’s rest and let things ride while the perps leave town and disappear. Doesn’t mean they’re bad detectives, just that there are limits to what a human can do.

I still wish they could have done more.


607 posted on 07/02/2011 9:14:59 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m not sure about the chloroform either, although I consider it a possibility. It could also be an accident—maybe she left the wee one hidden in the trunk while she partied, and the child died from over-heating. If so, it was a convenient accident, because I believe she intended to get rid of that inconvenient child.


608 posted on 07/02/2011 9:17:16 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

Oh, I hope to God she didn’t leave her in the trunk - alive. Imagine the fear of the poor child. Some things we’ll never know.


609 posted on 07/02/2011 9:25:06 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: paul revere is riding

I had a son-in-law that is one, as much as I believe in marriage forever I was so happy when my daughter finally saw right through him and got him out of her life. He was so messed up, lies, lies even when the truth was better. He also had some cult like way of controlling her when they were together. They can be very convincing at times- suck some people right into their web of craziness.

I pray for you that your son will wake up, we became convinced our daughter never would- but one day she came to her senses.


610 posted on 07/02/2011 9:46:01 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: SE Mom
BUT- this is a circumstantial case and that’s just one of the mysteries that may never be answered.

......and there are plenty of mysteries associated with this case. One thing I've been wondering is why there was a decomposition smell picked up by the dogs in the back yard? If the theory is that Casey brought the dead child back to the Anthony's to try to bury her there (when she borrowed the shovel from the neighbor), why would she take her out of the car, lay her on the ground, etc. until the hole/burial spot was ready?

Anyone could have come home, walked into that back yard. By removing a body from the car, laying it on the ground while she was working/figuring out what to do, she would be leaving herself very exposed. She knew the neighbor was home. What if he decided to amble over to see how her "bamboo digging" was going...offer a helping hand. The more I thought about that aspect, it made no sense why she would bring the body out of a trunk.

Of course, there is no accounting for stupidity, but is it possible that this is where the child died, then the body was placed into the trunk afterword? There was no decomp smell associated near the pool, only in the area of the playhouse/sandbox.
611 posted on 07/02/2011 9:53:49 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: All
In reference to my post 611,

Photo of the Anthony's house/backyard



Photos showing where the dogs found the decomp smell.


612 posted on 07/02/2011 10:33:23 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Thank You Rush; indylindy

“”I have never understood why she didn’t just make her defense that Caylee and she were going for a swim. The phone rang and she went to get it it, came out and Caylee was dead in the pool. She panicked and knew she would get blamed and made the rest up.””

I don’t think so. This is an excerpt from the 2nd interview with Casey. This is the investigator speaking. I think she latched onto this and decided to run with it:

1 There’s nothing you’re gonna tell any of the three of us that’s gonna surprise us

2 okay.

3 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)

4 Q I’ve had to sit down with..with mother;s who rolled over their babies accidentally.

5 I’ve had to sit down with mothers whose kids have drowned in swimming pools.

6 I’ve had to sit down with mothers who had boyfriends who beat their kids to

7 death. Ah, you know who..who felt horrible about what happened. And then try,

8 and I had to go to them and help them try to explain to their families okay. And

9 then I’ve also had to deal with people who have done horrible, unspeakable

10 things to children. And then lied about it and lied about it and lied about it okay.

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_Casey-1320-071608.html


613 posted on 07/02/2011 10:47:38 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

Thanks for that link. It’s not one I’ve run across yet. Aren’t we all going blind from looking these things up? Maybe not blind but surely a little bit nutty! Well, to each his own, I say. It’s like a good book.....


614 posted on 07/02/2011 11:30:27 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: indylindy

“I can’t believe it is taking Baez this long to depose 2 people.””

Aren’t they using this time to work on their closing arguments? I thought all depositions were over with yesterday. He can’t reopen his case so why the depo?


615 posted on 07/02/2011 11:35:45 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: indylindy

“”I can’t believe it is taking Baez this long to depose 2 people.””

Sorry - I am reading from the last posts and didn’t notice this was yesterday......


616 posted on 07/02/2011 11:39:27 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Tammy8

I believe it was on Nancy Grace last night where it was said that a mother had seen the same thing in her daughter and got the child away from her.


617 posted on 07/02/2011 11:42:20 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

In the morning on Friday morning the judge gave the defense time to depose these two witnesses from Gentiva. The judge saw it as a stall tactic because what they were testifying to were computer records. But...the judge gave them the time because it was a death penalty case.

I was speaking to how at 9 in the morning it could be until after 1 and we had still not started the trial for Friday.

The judge gave them all day today to prepare for closing arguments based on the whole case.

I was glad because I was unable to watch early today;)


618 posted on 07/02/2011 11:54:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: miss marmelstein

It is so obvious. George killed Caylee. Caylee was getting old enough to tell Casey about being molested by George. He drowned her while Casey was sleeping in order to shut her up. When Casey woke George was waiting for her with the dead Caylee. From there take the case by Baez and it all fits. The state Bungled the investigation from the start by only focusing on Casey. George was in the background manipulating the whole show. Not even Casey knew that George had done the Murder. She thought he was helping her avoid jail for child abuse. She is obviously a Lunatic and easily manipulated by George .


619 posted on 07/02/2011 1:47:24 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: All

Here’s a fascinating timeline if you’ve not seen one yet.

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2011/0224/26984466.pdf


620 posted on 07/02/2011 2:11:23 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: screaminsunshine

Nice fairy tale.

So why didn’t Casey testify to that?


621 posted on 07/02/2011 3:33:23 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

This is my “theory”. The State has a “theory too. The evidence presented by the State and Defense fits mine better than their theory from the Bungled investigation. They were stuck with it. I will post my whole theory tomorrow. Do you have one? Or do you just go with the States theory?


622 posted on 07/02/2011 3:42:21 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Raebie

Let me guess: she wanted to be convicted so her hated dad would feel guilty.

Honestly, I wonder if the writers of some of these things really believe them? It would almost be easier to believe that the earth is a cube, and the ground is flat.


623 posted on 07/02/2011 3:43:45 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: screaminsunshine

It occurs to me how unfortunate it is for casey, cindy, and the defense that poor george didn’t die that sad night in the hotel. How much easier it is to badger and slander someone who can’t defend himself and contradict their lies.


624 posted on 07/02/2011 4:05:47 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

You can not possibly believe a word he says can you?


625 posted on 07/02/2011 4:07:10 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Raebie

If you read the whole interview you find that Casey left the car there out of gas for three days before it was towed. George told the Impound manager the car was there for 3 days before it was towed. How could he have known? He testified the first time he found out about the car was in a notice in the mail. The notice did not say when the car was first left there. He never talked to anyone at Amscott, that is also in sworn testimony. How did he know it was out of gas? He brought gas with him. All who think George is innocent please explain this. This is all sworn testimony.


626 posted on 07/02/2011 4:16:46 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Cindy, Baez, casey are all proven liars of the worst sort. They’ve been busy obstructing justice using lies as their tactic for a reason. If George had died there’d be no end to the smears, and casey would walk. I wonder if he ever thinks about that?


627 posted on 07/02/2011 4:21:38 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

George Murdered Casey.


628 posted on 07/02/2011 4:22:56 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Maybe he wishes he had!!!!!!


629 posted on 07/02/2011 4:26:23 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: screaminsunshine

That’s crazy. Prove it. Your side couldn’t because George is still inconveniently alive, and can fight back.


630 posted on 07/02/2011 4:30:49 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: GOYAKLA

Whatever the verdict it will be reversed due to Judicial Misconduct anyway. That Judge is a joke.


631 posted on 07/02/2011 4:31:38 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

If you are sure the Verdict will be reversed why were you saying she would walk?
A NOT GUILTY verdict does/can not need to be appealed!
Nice try Geraldo!


632 posted on 07/02/2011 4:37:38 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: monkeywrench

All the evidence fits my theory better than the State theory or the Defense theory. For example the 3 days I spoke of. How did George know? George drowned Caylee to keep her quiet while Casey was asleep.


633 posted on 07/02/2011 4:38:57 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

The bulk of circumstance says casey killed caylee. Not george. You’re just being obtuse.


634 posted on 07/02/2011 4:43:32 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: screaminsunshine

And Casey went boogieing every night and day for 31 days never asking where is Caylee? You were saying earlier she was a good mother???? Being a good Mother is protecting you child with all of you strength!


635 posted on 07/02/2011 4:50:39 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: GOYAKLA

She is a Fruit Loop. Clinton went on on on after his lies. Compartmentalization, Fear of George, and Denial. George however is a devious child molesting manipulating ex homicide detective Murderer. So was Peterson. So what is Georges excuse for saying CaYlee died in an accident while still going out in the media and claiming he was looking for her. Think.
BTW women get tattoos for reasons. The placement has reasons behind it. They are very intense about it and a lot of thought goes in to it. Her Tattoo is on her right side on her back. Anyone have any ideas there. It came during the 31 days.


636 posted on 07/02/2011 5:02:20 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: monkeywrench

It does not really matter the conviction if it occurs will be reversed on appeal for judicial misconduct by this horrible judge.


637 posted on 07/02/2011 5:13:14 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

I think you are River Cruz. George did not state that Caylee died in an accident. It sounds like he said he was starting to believe that maybe Caylee died in an accident. He really did not want to belive his daughter would kill her child.

You know, you need to listen and get the facts before posting silly rants of bits and pieces you just make up.


638 posted on 07/02/2011 5:18:01 PM PDT by dforest
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To: screaminsunshine

Put the bottle down, Casey is not dead, Caylee is, and Casey killed her.


639 posted on 07/02/2011 5:20:19 PM PDT by dforest
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To: screaminsunshine

I have a male friend of 40 years who got a tattoo just above his pubes. It read stand clear of swinging boom. what do you think?
Also the girl who asked for a tattoo on inside of thigh just below the promised land. She wanted “If you can read this you are too Da-n close”. When asked for font, block or script, she said “Braille”.
As to your question, It would be read by person to her backside!!!!!!!


640 posted on 07/02/2011 5:30:57 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: GOYAKLA

Hey they are your friends. I never said I believe this it is a theory for argument sake. It makes as much sense as most of all the other theories or even more. And there are a Hell of a lot of them.
The whole family ought to be Baker Acted. Along with Nancy Grace and the rest of the media. Casey is a total Fruit Loop.


641 posted on 07/02/2011 6:31:08 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: indylindy

Anyone who thinks Baez is a lousy Lawyer is as Nutty as Casey. Look what he had for a client and what he has been able to do. All there is in this case is bits and pieces of evidence and silly rants by the Anthoneys, The Psychics and so forth. Brilliant. He might get her off. The Judge is blowing his mind and Ashton looked like a Jack in the Box.


642 posted on 07/02/2011 6:37:20 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: indylindy

Probably by accident. Who knows. No proof. But Zanny the Nanny is Zanex. Any fool can figure that out.


643 posted on 07/02/2011 6:43:32 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Evening trying to be polite here. You and are in synch on Nancy Grace, one batty batch!
I live in Longwood and because my parents took care of MANY foster and abused children this case makes be sick and giving me thoughts of going Rambo.
We get local station and as i’m retired the TV is on 24/7. Power bill going higher.
The station I watch has a Older gentleman lawyer on, named Sheafer. He is very thorough on explaining both sides of case. If you can get that station, I believe the feed around the world. They also are running a blog on the Net but I don’ play there.
I live with 10-12 miles of the whole game but will not go to Court house.
If you have not seen the Bios on Judge Blevin Perry, Jr. may I suggest you go there. I live in same area his father worked celery files before going on Orlando Police force. Very interesting especially about the judges Right eye!
Have a great night and a good tomorrow. G


644 posted on 07/02/2011 6:48:54 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: screaminsunshine

Baez is a dolt. He has a poor record. Perhaps you might look that up. It has been discussed here many times.


645 posted on 07/02/2011 6:50:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

“”I was glad because I was unable to watch early today;)””

And I’ll be unable to watch in the a.m. Will be in church. I expect they’ll take a lunch break so will be able to watch after 12:30 or so... I expect the arguments to be lengthy but perhaps not. Who knows with any certainty what will happen with this mess?


646 posted on 07/02/2011 6:59:36 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: GOYAKLA

I work on and of and missed the middle of the trial. It has been a Hell of a case. I am just enjoying taking the other side. Honestly I thought from the start a high manslaughter. But mitigating because of he lunatic family not taking action. But they turn out to be as nutty and lowlife as she is. State did not have a Murder 1 case. The jury probably wants to get the Hell out of there but is mad at Ashton for all the delays. The judge if you notice has to keep taking pills all day...probably his ulcer is on fire. See ya tomorrow.


647 posted on 07/02/2011 7:00:35 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: indylindy

Indy, tune in tomorrow. I have the correct verdict and this whole case down pat. I am going to post it tomorrow. Everyone will agree with it 100% Even you because it is indisputable.


648 posted on 07/02/2011 8:54:05 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Any fool knows its Xanax


649 posted on 07/03/2011 1:38:03 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: Girlene

I have to toot my own horn a little bit here, Rush style.

During the trial I made the comment that I thought the software program “CacheBack” was JUNK SOFTWARE!

I don’t know if you’ve heard but the software developer has now admitted that he found a huge error and that “chloroform” was only searched once, not 84 times as he testified in court and all the talking heads like Nancy disGrace latched on to.

He claims he sent the info to the prosecutor’s office but was ignored. The Prosecutor’s office says he sent the new info to the wrong address. I think it’s being investigated.

What little I have is from www.news13.com/casey under a “chloroform” heading.


650 posted on 07/21/2011 2:59:58 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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