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Casey Anthony Live Trial Thread: SENTENCING (7/07/11)
Free Republic | July 7, 2011 | truthkeeper

Posted on 07/07/2011 5:44:43 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Today is the day she may walk free. Prepare yourselves.

Call me Pollyanna, but the Judge did give FingerBoy 6 days. Hopefully he has scoured the law so she can cool her heels a little longer.


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To: freekitty

Agreed. I wasn’t picking on you. I was picking on those goobers on this thread that are arguing that somehow we are bad for not agreeing with this decision.

I am sick of them. They are like Cheney Mason.

:^)


1,001 posted on 07/08/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by dforest
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To: truthkeeper

Exactly. I am actually hoping that Casey will get what is coming to her in any way possible. She would look good in prison stripes.


1,002 posted on 07/08/2011 12:23:16 PM PDT by dforest
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To: caww

not copying...coping.....but, yeah, I hear you. Someone on this thread mentioned the book The Sociopath Nextdoor....and it’s next on my summer reading list. I don’t think you can help a true sociopath......but they just ensured she would walk the streets with us again....either way. I don’t have enough personal knowledge to conclusively say either way....BUT, the parents ARE enablers....whether they deserve sympathy or disgust, I don’t really know. I hope they don’t ever move near me.


1,003 posted on 07/08/2011 12:25:00 PM PDT by tioga
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To: truthkeeper

a million? OMG.....can you imagine the beating an audience could give HER? I would actually tune in....I never have before....but I would for that. I am PATHETIC, I know.


1,004 posted on 07/08/2011 12:27:42 PM PDT by tioga
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To: indylindy

They sound like the trolls they are. I doubt seriously they believe what they say as most of them can’t seem to not put in an insult.

I know you weren’t. I am not sure who caught the reference I was making as to the bs Mason is spewing.


1,005 posted on 07/08/2011 12:34:33 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tioga

Just read today Casey declined her mothers visit to the jail. She’s imagined she will have a new life for herself now, but it won’t work for long and she’ll be begging to come home again. They generally always return home because it’s the only place they are accepted for long.


1,006 posted on 07/08/2011 12:44:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: freekitty

I was just listening to HLN. That Jean Kasaris person was just saying that Cheney’s team is getting offers from shrinks and psychologists from around the country to help Casey after she is released because she has major issues.

Tells me one thing. They know they got a total nutcase off and if someone can’t rein that nutcase in in, the blowback will be tremendous.

Oh, the irony.


1,007 posted on 07/08/2011 12:46:33 PM PDT by dforest
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To: truthkeeper

Hi truthkeeper....read Casey wouldn’t accept a visitation from her mother today. So we do see Cindy once again reaching out, and no surprise in that whatsoever.


1,008 posted on 07/08/2011 12:48:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I might be too ashamed to see my mother after she’d purjured herself to save my life- but it’s apparent Casey doesn’t experience shame so it’s hard to know why she wouldn’t see her.


1,009 posted on 07/08/2011 12:48:53 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: freekitty

The court is planning her release and where she will go initially, for their concerns of the threats against her. Her attorney has been considering body guards as well. But of course this will be short lived.

I imagine they’ll try to help her change her appearance along the way, dyed hair etc. And likely recommend she stay out of the limelight. But we know Casey will not do that. Someone who can hardly wait to have her toenails painted and her fingernails professionally done is not thinking of laying low.


1,010 posted on 07/08/2011 12:52:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: freekitty

The court is planning her release and where she will go initially, for their concerns of the threats against her. Her attorney has been considering body guards as well. But of course this will be short lived.

I imagine they’ll try to help her change her appearance along the way, dyed hair etc. And likely recommend she stay out of the limelight. But we know Casey will not do that. Someone who can hardly wait to have her toenails painted and her fingernails professionally done is not thinking of laying low.


1,011 posted on 07/08/2011 12:52:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Casey has no appreciation that her whole family lied for her. To her, that was what they have always done and are supposed to do.

She is as contemptable as she always is to them.

Her mother and father should be glad that she doesn’t want to see them. Sometimes it is hard for people to understand that they need to quit going back for more.


1,012 posted on 07/08/2011 12:53:10 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
Cheney’s team is getting offers from shrinks and psychologists from around the country to help Casey after she is released because she has major issues

Casey may agree to that after they coax her that it'd be a great place to "hide out" and be protected for a time while she gets pruned to meet the public. If they don't approach her from the standpoint of greater benefits for her rise to stardom she'll decline.

1,013 posted on 07/08/2011 12:58:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: indylindy
Casey has no appreciation

Of course not...her mind does not work that way, rather she sees any help 'she accepts' that it's what people should be doing for her.

Wonder if she thanked the jury! Doubtful, as she would also see them simply doing the job they were called to do.

1,014 posted on 07/08/2011 1:02:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

home? depends on how fast she can blow thru the mil from jerry springer....THEN she will be home...she won’t be paying them back so they can pay their bills, that’s for darn sure.


1,015 posted on 07/08/2011 1:06:32 PM PDT by tioga
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To: indylindy

I saw that. And irony it is.

I would venture to say they knew Casey was guilty because they were trying to find someone to pin the murder on; then they hit on accidental drowning which I don’t believe.

Good luck with help for Casey. Her type will not change. She doesn’t think anything is wrong with her and to her if she can get away with murder; all the better for her. Her lawyers were the biggest enablers in the world.


1,016 posted on 07/08/2011 1:06:32 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caww

Cindy needs to back off, the abuse in that family was actually Casey toward her parents and Caylee was the plum. Caylee gave Casey power. Power to browbeat and rip her whole family off. Power to hurt them. And she did.

The parents are at fault for putting up with Casey and covering for her. The relationship was contentious and abusive in a verbal manner from both sides. Both sides were covering for themselves. Cindy didn’t want to admit her daughter had problems and never let her forget it, Casey knew that and used that to get back at Mom.

In this case, Cindy and George need to back off. Their relationship is toxic and if they never see each other again, the better, unless people have a total awakening. That may never happen.

Sometimes it is better to let it go. We all like to see people get together and get over it. Makes us feel good. It doesn’t always work out that way. And sometimes you have to accept that in the interest of peace in life.


1,017 posted on 07/08/2011 1:10:00 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SE Mom
it’s hard to know why she wouldn’t see her.

Her Attorney's aren't finished with the notoriety they can achieve thru this whole affair, and since she relies on them they will be guiding her decisions in such a way as them "taking care of her" for a time would be.

Psyciatrists and psycologists also stand to gain as they have been able to see her operate throughout the trial. I see it and I'm not a professional by any means. They want to get up close and personal concerning Casey...and then write THEIR paper about her.

I don't think Casey realizes yet most are only interested in her in what she can bring to their own table. If she happens to get some help along the way, fine, but they know sociopaths cannot be cured nor do they take to psyciatric treatment well. That's why Casey will indeed be in trouble again...one way or another... and no matter how much help she's given.

Keep in mind that Casey is not capable of taking care of herself without leeching on other people. It's how a sociopath 'works'.

1,018 posted on 07/08/2011 1:13:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: freekitty

HLN is discussing her wardrobe for the trial......I noticed pants with those outdated blouses tucked in......I think they got her wardrobe from the salvation army...good grief. she looked like white trash trying to dress up....must be they played to that jury....that was my take.


1,019 posted on 07/08/2011 1:14:15 PM PDT by tioga
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To: caww

I think she will go home at some point because her parents are the only ones that will accept her at least at first. It would be a mistake for all them

Yep, you are right. Casey isn’t thinking any further than what Casey wants right then.


1,020 posted on 07/08/2011 1:17:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tioga

I am watching the same. I think they wanted her to fade into the woodwork. The less attention paid to her the better they were able to convince the jury she is not a murderer which, of course and IMO, she is.


1,021 posted on 07/08/2011 1:20:55 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: indylindy

Cindy’s lost Caley...big hole there. And now Casey is “available” to fill that gap. No suprise Cindy’s running to Casey to fill that huge hole in her heart. Cindy’s a basketcase herself, from the years of living as she has with the family, she’s going to try to bring as much of that “normalacy” as possible back into her life...and fix it all, just as she did in the past.

Unfortunately her time for that is pretty much past, for the time being. But in time I’d almost guarantee Casey and her mom will be together again. Once all the outside “helps” have been exhausted what else will be there for either of them except each other?


1,022 posted on 07/08/2011 1:21:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: tioga

Also, as usual, Casey is Casey as she proceeded to make all kinds of facial expressions.


1,023 posted on 07/08/2011 1:22:40 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caww

I agree; but that won’t last either.


1,024 posted on 07/08/2011 1:24:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caww

That could be; but Casey is Casey and she has probably had enough of people controlling her.


1,025 posted on 07/08/2011 1:26:55 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tioga
they played to that jury

Of course...I doubt many were fooled though. Too many photos of Casey's attire otherwise seen as it really is. She's a "Target" "K-Mart" dresser....as her theft of monies and checks on record attest to, as well as her e-mails. But yes, her trial clothes were definitely hand chosen to depict her "innocence".

1,026 posted on 07/08/2011 1:27:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mean Maryjean
They’re attracted to decaying corpses

Really? Only attracted to rotting corpses? Or attracted to anything decomposing?

And that proves what, exactly? Was Caylee in the garbage can at one time? How do you prove the relationship between the garbage can and the body?

On the basis of finding an insect that is ubiquitous under similar circumstances?

Is that enough to convict for the death penalty?

1,027 posted on 07/08/2011 1:28:26 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: indylindy

Good post and you are right.


1,028 posted on 07/08/2011 1:28:26 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caww

If that ever does happen, it will be a long time coming. And it won’t be Casey doing the begging.

Cindy is a lost soul. Casey never had one.


1,029 posted on 07/08/2011 1:30:10 PM PDT by dforest
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To: freekitty
that won’t last either.

Anyone or anywhere Casey goes will continue to have a trail of destruction behind her. So of course nothing will be lasting....all will be a pit-stop for Casey until the next "victim" and any who touch her life will be played as such..

Also keep in mind Casey cannot take care of herself responsibly...she has not done so and that's because she will remain one who thinks she is "owed" the good life no matter who she chooses to be her next target that can give that to her.

Any money she gets will go thru her fingers like oil...then what? And she'll use any friends along the way til she's maxed them out.....eventually only Cindy will be waiting.

1,030 posted on 07/08/2011 1:35:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: indylindy
Cindy is a lost soul. Casey never had one.

Pretty harsh but probably closer to the truth than most claim.

1,031 posted on 07/08/2011 1:38:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

frankly, the stress Cindy has been under, deserved or not, may well play out with health issues. one has to wonder if there really is time to heal and get back together.

from the little I have been hearing from the Grunds......Cindy rules that house, Cindy is the source of the problems......interesting theory.


1,032 posted on 07/08/2011 1:40:41 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Thank You Rush

What is known about the backyard fight is sketchy. Neighbors heard raised voices but not exactly what was said. It is believed that Cindy went after Casey because she found from her mother, Shirley, that Casey had stolen over $400 from Cindy’s father’s retirement account. He is the one seen in the video with Casey and the one they visited on Father’s Day. BTW, Casey had stolen money from Cindy’s mother more than once before and in the emails with Rick, Shirley blamed herself for not turning Casey into the police thinking maybe Caylee wouldn’t have been harmed if she’d done that. In the fight it is said that Cindy wrapped her hands around Casey’s throat and choked her.

Other than that, the Anthony’s have never really discussed the incident other than to deny it ever happened. As for your other questions and comments. I put no faith in a single word George, Cindy, or Lee has told the police or anyone else including their testimony in court. I don’t even address those things anymore because there is no logical reason to believe that what they say is anything other than to confuse the issues, throw people off course, or to just plain lie to protect Casey.

If George said he saw Casey and Caylee leave with Snow White and Santa Claus on the morning of June 16th it would have the same credibility with me as whatever it was he actually said happened. If people are going to keep relying on what these 4 people say then no one will ever find the truth. I try now to look for confirmation or refutation from 3rd parties who are not in that sick little inner circle to get an idea of what really happened and when.


1,033 posted on 07/08/2011 1:43:51 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: caww

Yep.

Did you see that gal talking about George and the alleged mistress? I didn’t believe George did it; however; I can see how people would because people can sometimes act like dogs. I saw the alleged mistress as a little skank looking to make some money; etc off of a tragic situation. I am surprised she hasn’t contacted the famous lawyer for skanks, Gloria Allread.


1,034 posted on 07/08/2011 1:44:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: indylindy

Well stated.


1,035 posted on 07/08/2011 1:45:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: An American In Dairyland

a neighbor saw Casey’s car back into the garage...the dogs hit on a spot in the back yard and the trunk.....I trust the dogs.


1,036 posted on 07/08/2011 1:46:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: CynicalBear

The duct tape has received a lot of attention and discussion.

I would like to know if something has been overlooked.

Was it said in court by the prosecution exactly who put the tape on Caylee?

Was it a member of the Anthony household, or not? How would that be known?

Was it said when, where or under what circumstances the tape was applied?

Was the tape the cause of death? In what manner? Was the tape applied to a live Caylee, or a dead Caylee?

Some here think the tape was definitively placed on Caylee by Casey, and I would like to know why that is the only possible thought that should be entertained?

And if it was not proffered in court by the prosecution as to the role of the duct tape in the death of Caylee,and who applied it to her, how is the jury to decide that?

On the basis of what facts? Not theory. Facts.

There were four adults in the Anthony household. The tape, rather unique in its characteristics, was in the household.
It would be reasonable to assume that all could have had access to the duct tape in question at any time.

Which one put the tape on Caylee? Or was there a John Doe #5 that did it? What did the prosecution say? What was proven in court so that a reasonable doubt was not possible?


1,037 posted on 07/08/2011 1:48:55 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: caww

If you look at some of the transcripts, Cindy had started threatening Casey with taking the plum Caylee from her. After all, the family was getting tired of Casey’s antics.

The pressure was on Cindy. She used Caylee. Not good, because that brought out the unconrtollable rage. Oh no you are not Mom, you aren’t keeping Caylee and rejecting me. In otherwards, Mom was threatening to take away that which Casey used to control everyone.

It wasn’t going to happen. Casey made sure of it. Forgot about it for 31 days and had a good time.


1,038 posted on 07/08/2011 1:50:19 PM PDT by dforest
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To: freekitty

I didn’t believe the mistress......I believe she tried to insinuate herself into the drama of that family any way she could.......I considered a couple of one night stand sort of scenarios....as he has the history of coming and going in the marriage.....and not much job history, he’s been up to something. BUT, the whole thing seemed totally irrelevant to what really happened to Caylee. that family lied so much, so what?


1,039 posted on 07/08/2011 1:50:19 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

Most definitely. I trust what the neighbors say and I trust what law enforcement says and I trust what the dogs said and what the guys at the tattoo parlor said and what Casey’s ex-friends said and so on.

The information provided by Cindy, George, Lee, and of course, Casey is the information I tend to ignore unless someone else can back it up. Those 4 have been working together since July 16th to have the rest of us duped, running in circles chasing our tails, and kept clueless as to what really happened and when it really happened. Using their comments to make some sense out of it all is a waste...a real waste.


1,040 posted on 07/08/2011 1:51:36 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: indylindy

I thought Jesse Grund gave the real scenario/motive (without his knowing it) last night on Dr. Drew when he told the story of how Cindy picked a fight with Casey when he was at their house. She asked Jesse what he was doing with a loser like Casey who hadn’t finished high school, couldn’t get a decent job, didn’t support her baby, and so on and so on.

I bet the backyard fight was full of similar words...not that I’m defending a rotten person like Casey who stole money from her aged grandpa and grandma. But clearly Cindy knew how to push buttons and I think the result of this one was payback time using Caylee to do it.


1,041 posted on 07/08/2011 1:56:01 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: tioga

She was brought in to impeach his credibility.


1,042 posted on 07/08/2011 1:57:14 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tioga

I should make clear the only client of Gloria Allread I ever liked was Amber Fry. She came out and nailed Scott Peterson.


1,043 posted on 07/08/2011 2:01:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: exit82

Obviously the Last Person to See Caylee Alive put the duct tape on her and that Last Person is Casey.

After all even her attorney said there is NO nanny. Oh-oh!!! Lee didn’t see Caylee last. Cindy didn’t see Caylee last. George (yes, even George the boogeyman in this wild tale) didn’t see Caylee last.

If John Doe did it HOW did he get Caylee alone? How did he get this very unusual duct tape? How did he get the Winnie the Pooh blanket from Caylee’s bed? How did he get Cindy’s laundry bag from the garage?


1,044 posted on 07/08/2011 2:04:22 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: exit82
>>What was proven in court so that a reasonable doubt was not possible?<<

Therein lays the problem. They couldn’t prove any of those. Only speculation. The prosecution spent it’s entire time trying to prove murder one but couldn’t establish how she died, when she died, who put the body in the bag, or anything else.

Those prone to emotionalism want someone punished and made their minds up because of Casey’s behavior. Nothing based on pure incontrovertible facts.

When the prosecutor himself admits on Greta that the tape could have moved during the time it was under water going through storms and possible animal involvement you know that even they had reasonable doubt about the suppositions they presented in court.

1,045 posted on 07/08/2011 2:07:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: An American In Dairyland

the reports of Cindy choking Casey morphed inside my head into Casey choking Caylee in anger and revenge.......in my scenario she stopped before killing her....then she coldly placed the duck tape on and let her go...in the same backyard where Cindy choked her earlier.......that is what came to me and it was CHILLING.


1,046 posted on 07/08/2011 2:08:34 PM PDT by tioga
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To: An American In Dairyland

Do any of these people, who obviously didn’t follow the trial, ever wonder why Casey didn’t testify to her own behalf?


1,047 posted on 07/08/2011 2:10:52 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: truthkeeper


1,048 posted on 07/08/2011 2:11:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: An American In Dairyland

I, also, sense the duct tape over her mouth started as Casey shutting up her mother.....then she just moved on and killed the one thing Cindy really loved....at least at that moment in Casey’s mind.


1,049 posted on 07/08/2011 2:11:32 PM PDT by tioga
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To: central_va

Yeah, ya gotta love how smart people are when they bandwagon jump to sound smart or something. Those that followed the case understand the travesty of it all, but some just want to pontificate in pixels as impotent know it alls - when in reality they are ding dongs.


1,050 posted on 07/08/2011 2:13:39 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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