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Cop shoots, kills dog during Adams Morgan festival
TBD.com ^ | September 12, 2010 | TBD, ABC7

Posted on 07/07/2011 11:28:16 AM PDT by Immerito

UPDATE 7:47 p.m. Sept. 13: The Washington Post has obtained the police report on the incident. It describes the dog as appearing "to be out of control" and says the dog "charged" at the officer before it was fatally shot.

10:16 p.m. Updated with a statement from Third District police that conflicts with the dog handler's spokesman's statement, and an e-mailed statement from the handler himself.

There's never a shortage of police officers at Adams Morgan Day, just in case someone gets out of hand. Today, that someone was a dog.

An officer with the D.C. police department shot and killed a dog — possibly a rottweiler or pit bull — outside The Brass Knob antique store at 2311 18th St. NW. The shooting followed an intense, two-minute scuffle between the dog and what witnesses describe as a "smaller" white dog.

In dispute of the what the dog's handler has said, police tonight released a statement saying the dog was out of control and also bit the handler. Here's the entire e-mail from Third District Capt. Aubrey P. Mongal:

Earlier this afternoon, during the Adams Morgan Day events, an MPD officer encountered a dog in the crowded pedestrian area that got out of the control of it’s handler. The dog attacked another dog and also bit it handler. The officer, after making several attempts to subdue the dog by training tactics, had to finally shoot one time to stop the dog.

On the contrary, says the handler, who only wants to be identified as Aaron. In an e-mail to TBD, Aaron said the apparent foster dog, Parrot, didn't bite anyone.

In my recollection and as the eyewitness accounts will coroborate, the dog was completely under my control when the k9 officer removed me. Parrot bit no human, the only blood he drew was when i thrust my hand into his mouth to get him off the other dog. The k9 officer's injury, which he showed me at the station after, was nothing more than a rope burn from Parrot's leash, suffered when the officer was throwing my dog down a flight of stairs.

D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier, in an earlier response to an e-mail from advisory neighborhood commissioner and candidate for the Ward 1 D.C. Council seat Bryan Weaver, said three people, including a K9 officer, were bitten by the dog. Here's an excerpt of the e-mail:

I don't know all of the facts at this point so it is very difficult for me to comment beyond the facts that I have been given. All I know is that there is one dog who was attacked by the pit bull and 3 people, including a K9 officer, that were bitten by the pit bull.

Police sources had earlier told ABC 7 the officer who shot the dog was a canine handler who was experienced with dogs. He was trying to separate the dogs, and attempted to choke hold the larger dog. While he was trying that, the dog attempted to bite him or did bite him, and he threw him down the stairwell in an attempt to injure the dog. The dog charged the officer and the officer opened fire, the sources said.

An unidentified spokesperson for the dog's handler said the cop didn't try hard enough to subdue the dog.

In an e-mail to TBD, Weaver said the dog had seemed friendly at his booth at the festival just 15 minutes before the incident:

"Aaron is a good guy, he said he had the dog under control and the cop grabbed it from him and threw him down the well at [Marie] Reed and shot him. Dog was playing with kids at my booth 15 min earlier. Aaron is really shaken."

One witness, 46-year-old Harriet Winslow, said that at first, she saw the two dogs — the white-sandy pitbull-looking dog and a cute white fluffy lap dog — barking and fighting.

"Everybody glanced over and the owners of these dogs were frantically trying to pull them apart. We're all looking concerned. Suddenly, the owner of the pitbull was down on the ground trying to subdue his dog. He was really trying hard — I have to give him credit. He was on the ground wrapping his arms around the dog. I could see him down on the ground. I mean he was really trying."

After the two dogs were pulled apart, Winslow says she could see that the smaller dog was fine. But the dogs were still barking at each other.

Then a cop appeared.

"I glanced over again and I saw a very able bodied police officer fully a stride the dog — the cop straddling dog. The pitbull was still animated, still trying to get up. But this cop — I thought 'Wow this guy is good at this, he subdued a really angry dog.' Then I thought 'Good, this is now over.' Then I walk just five or 10 feet away and I hear a gun shot."

Before she heard the shot, she said she thought "the cop was totally in control. ... It's not something I would want to do. He really was on top of this dog."

Noah Siegel, who works at nearby Spaghetti Garden restaurant, says he saw "two or three cops" surrounding the dog. One of the officers, says Siegel, had the dog on a leash and attempted to drag it away from the commotion.

The dog began "trying to attack the cop," says Siegel. "Next thing I knew, they had it down there in the corner and I heard a shot and that was it," says Siegel, who was interviewed by ABC 7's Brianne Carter.

An onlooker who attempted to intervene in the dogfight sustained a scrape or two. "He's fine," reports ABC 7's Carter.


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1 posted on 07/07/2011 11:28:27 AM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito

Fire the cop.

This is getting monotonous anymore.

Any cop that shoots MY dog is a dead man, period.


2 posted on 07/07/2011 11:31:09 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: Immerito
he threw him down the stairwell in an attempt to injure the dog

I'm not sure that's standard procedure.

3 posted on 07/07/2011 11:32:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Immerito

Not enough no-knocks scheduled so he had to find a dog to shoot


4 posted on 07/07/2011 11:33:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Anyone else throwing a dog down a stairwell would be arrested.


5 posted on 07/07/2011 11:37:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Fire the cop.

This is getting monotonous anymore.

Any cop that shoots MY dog is a dead man, period.

And you will likely go to prison for a very long time.

Puting animal life over human life is normally a bad idea.


6 posted on 07/07/2011 11:38:45 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Emperor Palpatine

What’s disturbing is that the dog’s owner had the dog under his control (confirmed by all eyewitnesses) and the cop *removed* the dog from the *owner’s* control.

The other dog was a poodle, and it may have (debatable) sparked the confrontation.

http://dcist.com/2010/09/spokesperson_officer_knocked_owner.php


7 posted on 07/07/2011 11:38:50 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

The dog made “a threatening move to his pocket”...


8 posted on 07/07/2011 11:41:24 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: riverrunner

As is taking a person’s private property without cause.

The cop in this story removed the dog from the owner, which had regained control over his dog. The dogfight had ended.

A good cop would find out which dog started the fight (his dog or the poodle) and would fine/warn (as appropriate with local law) the owner of the dog that started the fight.


9 posted on 07/07/2011 11:42:35 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: driftdiver

It does seem as though cops are becoming more and more violent these days.

For a while the cops and the bootlickers all claimed that it was in response to rising crime rates. But we have hard data now from the FBI and several other independent outlets which shows that crimes in all categories, including violent crimes, assaults on police officers et al... are all at record lows and they are still dropping.

While violence by police is at record highs and still climbing, along with record numbers of excessive force law suits. Last year police departments cost taxpayers over $346,000,000.00 in civil settlements...

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/?p=4053


10 posted on 07/07/2011 11:43:06 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

That other guy says you’d go to jail...
a. Not if I’m on the jury
b. dog live vs. human life... Was that cop really human? Doubtful.


11 posted on 07/07/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Immerito
A picture taken just before the cop threw the dog down a stairwell, pulled his gun and shot it


12 posted on 07/07/2011 11:51:23 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Immerito
Dog on dog fights can be tough to control and it is very easy to get bit by accident. I have broken up a few of them.

Trying to hold down a big dog is tough also its very hard even if you are the owner if the dog doesn't want to be held down is mad scared ect.

I could very well see the dog trying to bite the holder.

Was the officer justified to killed the dog not enough infomation for me to call it one way or the other.

It is easy be a back seat quarter back when you were not there.

13 posted on 07/07/2011 11:51:50 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Immerito

Poodles are one of the breeds very popular with puppy mills. Poorly bred and poorly handled when young results in a very poorly behaving dog.

We had an AKC registered poodle given to us. Worst dog I ever had. I could easily see a poodle starting the confrontation.


14 posted on 07/07/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Blue Jays
The other thing to keep in mind is this was police gunfire at a well-attended festival presumbably with throngs of people crowded around. Seriously?
Heck, spray the dogs with cold water and that'll stop a fight. No need for flying bullets.
The officer didn't have pepper spray, a baton, a taser, or anything else available to him to escalate the amount of force truly needed for resolution?
When all one carries is a large hammer...everything begins to look like a nail.

15 posted on 07/07/2011 11:53:51 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Fire the cop.

I, too, look forward to the day when a canine killing machine breaks tether of it's spaghetti limbed, hipster handler, and has free reign of the streets until it gets bored and falls asleep.

All dogs are cuddly and wonderful and all cops are just there waiting for a chance to kill a friendly puppy.

Case closed.

16 posted on 07/07/2011 11:54:31 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: riverrunner
Puting animal life over human life is normally a bad idea.

Some folks think of dogs as their children and get unduly emotional about it. It's quite sad really.

17 posted on 07/07/2011 11:56:07 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Looks like the dog is under control to me.


18 posted on 07/07/2011 11:56:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; riverrunner

And some people have no regard for other peoples property nor for the pain and suffering they cause.

Its quite sad really.


19 posted on 07/07/2011 11:58:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: riverrunner

All witnesses have confirmed that the owner had the dog under control. The officer * forcibly removed* the dog from the owner’s control.

Which scenario is more likely to result in an out of control dog—an owner, who knows the dog and knows best how to keep it subdued, or a stranger grabbing the dog away from the owner, frightening the dog which doesn’t understand why it is being separated from its alpha?


20 posted on 07/07/2011 11:59:55 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: riverrunner

“I have broken up a few of them”

I broke up one (between my male GSD and my male Cairn Terrier.) It was over a bone and the GSD decided to question the alpha quality of the Cairn. In my case, it sounded worse than the actual fight but I did try to separate them and got bitten (by accident... it wasn’t directed at me). I don’t know your techniques or the “right” ones but I screamed at the top of my lungs and both dogs froze. I said, “GET IN YOUR ROOOOM!!” and the GSD walked away with his tail between his legs.


21 posted on 07/07/2011 12:04:02 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: driftdiver

Yes, poodles can be aggressive, especially when poorly trained. Unfortunately, too many dog owners of smaller dog breeds don’t take dog training as seriously, dismissing aggressive/alpha behavior from their dogs as “cute” or “precious”.


22 posted on 07/07/2011 12:06:40 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

http://dcist.com/2010/09/spokesperson_officer_knocked_owner.php

Spokesperson: “Policeman Knocked” Owner Off Dog Before Detaining, Shooting It

We recently received an email from a spokesperson for the owner of the dog who was shot and killed during today’s Adams Morgan Day festival. According to the spokesperson, the animal’s owner — known simply as Aaron — is currently too “rightfully distraught” to speak directly with the media.

Here is the full statement by the spokesperson, including a description of what happened this afternoon:

Parrot is [a] two-year-old dog for whom we have cared for almost a month. He has never bitten another dog and is regularly walked along 17th street during the busiest times of day without incident. He’s extremely friendly.

Today, there was an unexpected scuffle between Parrot and a poodle. Aaron, subdued Parrot, who was wearing both a leash and a harness. To do so, he placed his hands in Parrot’s mouth and held it open, which he has done when Parrot gets overexcited when romping in the apartment. As it had in the past, this calmed Parrot down.

At this point, the policeman knocked Aaron off of Parrot. The policeman put his knee in the middle of Parrot’s back while pulling Parrot’s forelegs behind him, as one would do with an armed criminal. Without waiting to determine whether this technique would calm Parrot, the policeman grabbed Parrot, lifted him off the ground, and brought him to the top of the concrete staircase. He threw Parrot over the banister, down twelve steps, and onto the concrete floor. Then, the policeman stood at the top of the stairs, drew his weapon, and executed Parrot. Aaron cannot recall the number of shots fired.

This photograph, which was taken by DCist commenter Darcycat1 “maybe a minute” before the shooting, depicts the portion of the spokesperson’s story in which “the policeman put his knee in the middle of Parrot’s back.”

Obviously, we will have more on this story as it develops.

UPDATE: Here is an early reaction to the incident from Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier, excerpted from an email exchange with Ward 1 D.C. Council candidate Bryan Weaver by TBD/ABC 7:

I don’t know all of the facts at this point so it is very difficult for me to comment beyond the facts that I have been given. All I know is that there is one dog who was attacked by the pit bull and 3 people, including a K9 officer, that were bitten by the pit bull. The officer involved is assigned to AC Burke so I would ask that he provide you with additional information as it becomes available.

Clearly, I am a dog lover as well and never want to see an animal harmed. We will keep you posted.

Contact the author of this article or email tips@dcist.com with further questions, comments or tips.


23 posted on 07/07/2011 12:13:06 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: riverrunner

My dog is a valued family member.

I’m sick and tired of these cop shootings by asshats with badges.

Screw them, and their JBT boot-licking supporters.


24 posted on 07/07/2011 12:17:25 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: driftdiver
And some people have no regard for other peoples property nor for the pain and suffering they cause. Its quite sad really.

In this case, bringing a dog one is not capable of controlling and endangering other people's safety and property, I'd say selfish and shortsighted are better adjectives, but I agree.

25 posted on 07/07/2011 12:21:03 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Anytime dogs are allowed to mingle there is an opportunity for conflict. In this case the owner had regained control before the cop got involved.


26 posted on 07/07/2011 12:23:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

But which dog started the fight? How do you know that the dog that was shot is the dog that started the trouble?

Do you approve of officers forcibly removing your property from your possession before disposing of it?


27 posted on 07/07/2011 12:29:55 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; metmom; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

28 posted on 07/07/2011 12:31:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: momtothree; riverrunner

Correct way to break up a dog fight, with as least possible chance of you getting bit is to grab the agressor by the back legs and walk backwards and/or sideways if you can. It works best if there are two people available to help with the other dog. Dogs lifted on their rear legs have much reduced reaction times and it gets them slightly disoriented.


29 posted on 07/07/2011 12:47:43 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: momtothree; riverrunner
dogs lifted off their rear legs...
30 posted on 07/07/2011 12:49:31 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Immerito

I own a mastiff which I have always been able to control. There are small breeds which have never been under control, and which the owners allow to be people- and dog-aggressive. These small breeds are not aware of their own size, and have never been properly socialized around people or other animals.

I no longer EVER take my very large dog anywhere around other dogs, because if he were attacked, he would, I am sure, quickly kill the attacking dog.

Meanwhile, he plays and cuddles with children, ferrets, cats, and frail little women like me. I’ve introduced my dog to all the law enforcement officers in the area, so they know what a great animal he is, but any man who was a stranger and who got aggressive with my 235 lb. dog might have a problem. I never would want that to happen, so I just don’t take him anywhere except the vet. I used to take him to the river, but not anymore, since so many people camping leave their dogs off lead. He has to be content with our pond.


31 posted on 07/07/2011 12:50:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Roos_Girl

Thank you Roos_Girl! This is one of those knowledge tidbits that I like to store in the old noggin. You hope you don’t ever need to remember it, but you are thankful if you do!!


32 posted on 07/07/2011 12:53:37 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sounds like the dog was just warning a nutso lap dog and then fighting off an over-reactive cop.


33 posted on 07/07/2011 12:53:49 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

Any man who shoots a dog is a coward.. Period.


34 posted on 07/07/2011 12:54:59 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: momtothree

Yep, learned that from a very accomplished field dog trainer and hope to never have to use it. But, I’ve got 3 dogs and while they generally get along sometimes you just never know what goes through their little peanuts.

Incidentally, screaming sounds like it worked out fine in your case, but screaming can cause more excitement and continue a fight, so if you can remember to remain quite it might help. :)


35 posted on 07/07/2011 1:01:24 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Immerito
It's amazing how one incident can generate as many different versions as we have read in this article.

Thank the Lord we have all the FReepers who were there when it happened and can rightfully condemn the officer.

36 posted on 07/07/2011 1:08:01 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

Yeah, especially when that dog has your kid locked in its jaws.


37 posted on 07/07/2011 1:09:11 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

yeah never mind the witness statements and the picture which is posted above. please disregard those


38 posted on 07/07/2011 1:10:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
And you, being cop-hater #1 around here, should obviously disregard the cop's statements.

A snapshot is just that, a snapshot. There are always three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth.

39 posted on 07/07/2011 1:24:44 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Immerito

If 2 dogs start fighting, separating them is all that is required. A trained “handler” should know that. The lesson here is never give a cop even 1/4 of an excuse to shoot something. They can’t resist such an opportunity.


40 posted on 07/07/2011 1:43:30 PM PDT by Hacklehead (The Tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: thefactor

Do you believe that it is acceptable for an officer to destroy your private property when it is under your control?


41 posted on 07/07/2011 1:46:31 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Hacklehead

Yep, and apparently, this cop believed he had license to take private property from its owner without cause.


42 posted on 07/07/2011 1:48:11 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: thefactor

Which dog had a kid locked in its jaws? I don’t see that in any of the articles.

By the way, what biological evidence do you have that any dog is capable of “locking” anything in its jaws?


43 posted on 07/07/2011 1:49:40 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Roos_Girl

I’ve heard that as well. Thanks for posting that. :-)


44 posted on 07/07/2011 1:50:20 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: thefactor

Why should the cop’s statements, given that he is a government agent, be given more weight than the statements of other witnesses at the scene?


45 posted on 07/07/2011 1:52:25 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Judith Anne

I take the same precautions with my female bullmastiff. She does not have an aggressive bone in her body, gets along famously with our cat, allows my children to hug her, poke her, and prod her with endless patience. She has been to obedience classes and mutiple to vet’s offices for an allergy problem, and she is beloved by all for her sweet temperament.

However, when she is around other dogs, particularly the typical out-of-control, yapping toy dog with a Napoleon complex, I keep Maggie on leash and as distant as possible. I was asked by one of these numbskull owners one time why I wouldn’t let Maggie play, and my response was “If something goes wrong, the big dog always gets blamed.”


46 posted on 07/07/2011 1:55:29 PM PDT by Juana la Loca
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To: Juana la Loca

““If something goes wrong, the big dog always gets blamed.””

Sadly, that is often the case. The larger breeds, even the gentle giants, get a bad rap, and the smaller breeds are often cast as the helpless victim of the “big bad dog”.


47 posted on 07/07/2011 2:01:20 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

The dog was not under control by its ‘handler.’ If you read the one eyewitness’s report, the cop as ‘astride’ the dog that was still fighting to get up and likely back in the fight. The ‘handler’ who’s given kudo’s for ‘really trying,’ did NOT have the dog under control and should never have brought him to the event to begin with.

You may never have attended this event, but I have. It is very crowded in an urban neighborhood; families come with their small children. It is not an environment for pittbulls and/or rottweilers.


48 posted on 07/07/2011 2:06:41 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: thefactor

“And you, being cop-hater #1 around here, should obviously disregard the cop’s statements.”

so much for being rational eh.

I only hate corrupt cops. I strongly dislike cops who blindly support other cops regardless of how bad their actions.


49 posted on 07/07/2011 2:07:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EDINVA

It’s clear that the writer of the article has no clue what breed the other dog was. A rottweiler does not resemble an American Staffordshire terrier.

The other dog has been identified as a poodle, and it may (or may not) have instigated the fight).

The dog struggling does not defacto indicate that it desired to re-engage in the fight, but that it wanted to be *up*.

Furthermore, the witness who described him as “trying” also indicated that she turned away from the scene. People who have reason to believe that someone can barely control what they deem an apparently aggressive dog do not typically take their eyes off the dog, as that witness did. It is clear that she thought shooting the dog was an overreaction, and inappropriate, regardless.

Since the poodle may have instigated the fight, why are you laying the blame on the owner of the other dog, whose dog is just as conceivably the victim of an attacking dog?


50 posted on 07/07/2011 2:22:06 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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