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Noise Prompts Monroeville Restaurant To Ban Young Kids
WTAE ^ | July 8, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 07/09/2011 7:21:34 PM PDT by Immerito

MONROEVILLE, Pa. -- Stephanie Kelley, of Trafford, has been a weekly customer of McDain's Restaurant and Golf Center. Not any more.

The eatery on Broadway Boulevard in Monroeville has decided to stop admitting young children, and she's the mother of a toddler.

"I can't believe this. I am offended. This is just an ignorant policy," Kelley told Team 4 investigator Jim Parsons.

In an email sent to loyal McDain's customers, owner Mike Vuick wrote, "Beginning July 16, 2011, McDain's Restaurant will no longer admit children under six years of age. We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers."

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KEYWORDS: children; mcdains; mikevuick; monroeville; parenting; pennsylvania; restaurant
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1 posted on 07/09/2011 7:21:39 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito

It’s her prerogative.


2 posted on 07/09/2011 7:34:23 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

I have a sneaking suspicion that her child was one of the misbehaving children (though she would never admit it).

The parents of well-behaved children in my acquaintance wouldn’t complain about a rule like this; they’d just make a note to have a date night at the restaurant.


3 posted on 07/09/2011 7:36:38 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: unkus

“”I can’t believe this. I am offended.”

So am I every time I hear screaming kids and see useless parents letting it happen.


4 posted on 07/09/2011 7:37:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Immerito

There’s a Chucky Cheese on William Penn In Monroeville.


5 posted on 07/09/2011 7:38:28 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Norm Lenhart

You said it.

But, ask nicely for the useless parent to do something about their “precious” and they’re calling the cops on you.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 7:40:50 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“”I can’t believe this. I am offended.”
______________

Your snotty brats offend me.


7 posted on 07/09/2011 7:41:25 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

There’s a Chucky Cheese on William Penn In Monroeville.


I’m glad those days are long past.


8 posted on 07/09/2011 7:43:55 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

When I want some entertainment on youtube, I input “hockey fights”.

When I want some REAL entertainment on youtube, I put in “Chuck E. Cheese Fights”.

Anyway, I will give any restaurant that bans screaming crumb crunchers at least a second look and no I do not hate children.


9 posted on 07/09/2011 7:43:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: Immerito
"well behaved" children often upset "adults" because the kids are happy, smiling, laughing,enjoying their little lives and how any adult would not take pleasure from that is beyond me....

no one kicks smelly, loud, slow older people out of places...but kids are fair game...

and so it goes...our war on children and how "inconvenient" they can be....

10 posted on 07/09/2011 7:46:06 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Immerito

I have three kids who do enjoy eating out. Of course, we tend towards family friendly joints, it’s amazing how quiet a menu and some crayons can keep kids. And they know our expectations.

It should be the resturant’s choice, but I have to wonder, is there a discrimination law they are violating?


11 posted on 07/09/2011 7:46:36 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: Immerito

Another RUDE thing that parents let their kids do...is give the waiter/waitress an order. I’m embarrassed and angry for the server when some 4-7 year old kid spits and stutters while giving the server an order while mommy and daddy giggle.


12 posted on 07/09/2011 7:48:39 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Immerito

As the mother of a flock, good for the owner. Other people’s children drive me nuts sometimes.

I often feel like we’re the only parents who ever discipline their children or expect them to behave quietly in public.


13 posted on 07/09/2011 7:48:43 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mockingbyrd

It’s the restaurant’s choice—be it race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age, or if they just don’t like your looks. Like your home, it’s their property, and they can admit whom they please. Sounds cruel, but only to the ignorant.


14 posted on 07/09/2011 7:51:29 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: unkus

When my kids were little, noisy and PITA’s my hub and I went out to eat one night to what was considered an “adult” restaurant (it had a bar) to GET AWAY from our noisy bratty kids and spend some romantic time alone. Didnt happen...some a$$ brought their somewhat newly- born who cried (screeched) the whole time. We never went back. That restaurant soon closed. We only brought our kids to “kid friendly” places and McD’s is still there!


15 posted on 07/09/2011 7:52:28 PM PDT by merryberry (2nd best punishment...IGNORE O.J. Anthony)
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To: cherry

Some parents have allowed their children to run around the restaurant, play “hide and seek” under other patron’s tables, poke food on other patrons plates, and scream at the top of their lungs for several minutes without removing them.

I suspect that the restaurant’s patrons have had enough of the “well-behaved” children described above.


16 posted on 07/09/2011 7:53:06 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: huckfillary

17 posted on 07/09/2011 7:56:16 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Immerito

I have only had one experience with children being a nuisance when we were at a restaurant. We were at Cracker Barrel, waiting inside for a table because it was too cold to wait outside. There were several other families waiting inside, too, with children. If you’ve never been in a Cracker Barrel, you always enter through the retail store to get to the restaurant. Anyway, these kids were running in and around the merchandise aisles, yelling at each other. I saw a stuffed animal being thrown over one of the aisles, and then a little later, I heard glass breaking. When we were finally taken to a table, a baby started screaming at the table beside of us.

Other than that, children don’t bother me when eating out. haha


18 posted on 07/09/2011 7:56:45 PM PDT by Joyell
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To: Shadowstrike

I stopped eating out a while ago for just this reason. If I can’t sit and enjoy a meal, then why do it?

My daughter was not allowed to act like an animal in a public setting and I expect the same from every other parent. Not a lot to ask. Since they don’t seem to agree, I just remove myself from the equation and the businesses that let kids rule the roost lose the income.


19 posted on 07/09/2011 7:57:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cherry
no one kicks smelly, loud, slow older people out of places...

But it's a thought that brings a smile to my face....

20 posted on 07/09/2011 7:59:37 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: cherry

Chilluns should be SEEN, NOT HEARD! An old adage — TRUE


21 posted on 07/09/2011 8:00:13 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Immerito
I can't believe this. I am offended. This is just an ignorant policy.

22 posted on 07/09/2011 8:01:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Shadowstrike; Norm Lenhart

“But, ask nicely for the useless parent to do something about their “precious” and they’re calling the cops on you.”

__________

Yes, it is so irritating. And I say this as a mother who (years ago) had to bring her upset children outside when we tried to go to a restaurant. Sometimes, it just doesn’t work, and you have to go home.


23 posted on 07/09/2011 8:01:36 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: huckfillary

If you OWN your own establishment in New York City you cannot allow smoking..even if you’re the owner and smoke you have to go outside your OWN building. I’m an ex-smoker but I hate this law because I believe in the logic you just stated. While we’re at it...I hate ALL no smoking laws on a LEGAL product!!!


24 posted on 07/09/2011 8:02:08 PM PDT by merryberry (2nd best punishment...IGNORE O.J. Anthony)
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To: mountainbunny

“... feel like we’re the only parents who ever discipline their children”.

Right there with you, Mountainbunny. My children aren’t perfect but they have always behaved in a restaurant. We have received many compliments over the years because people were amazed at just how good they acted. Now, no one saw or heard the “talk” in the car before going in. It was clear cut instructions and expectations of behavior. NO loud talking, say please/thank you, eat like a lady or gentleman, no running, standing, walking around etc, etc, etc. They knew what was expected of them going in. I have seen wild hooligan children doing all sorts of stuff... dumping plates of spaghetti, throwing food, screaming, temper tantrums. To be honest, there have been other people’s kids that ruined our meal. If a private owner of a restaurant wants a ban on kids, it is his or her right IMHO


25 posted on 07/09/2011 8:02:52 PM PDT by momtothree (c)
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To: Immerito

That resturant would make it to the TOP of my lists to go to. Tired of not being able to have a conversation; because some mis-behaving brat is throwing a tantrum, is running uncontrolled, is screaming or making noise.

Surprisingly, every parent thinks that what they produced is the golden child, their precious little prince/princess can do no wrong - that any noise they make is merriment to everyone else. The rules that everyone else must live by; are utterly optional for them.

Good for this resturant; I hope their business SURGES.


26 posted on 07/09/2011 8:03:01 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: mountainbunny

I have friends whose two boys were taught from a very young age how to behave in nice restaurants.

When they behaved, they were treated with respect and were made a part of the whole group. The took part in the conversation with everyone else and so, had a good time with everyone else.

When they misbehaved one parent or the other would mostly just give “the look” and that was mostly all it took. The parents decided what was for dinner, not the boys, and because it had always been that way, there was no argument.

I had another friend who was so impressed with her children, he walked over to her table with a bottle of nice wine, thanked her for how well behaved her children were, and filled her glass.


27 posted on 07/09/2011 8:11:34 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Hodar

Read my post...I’m sure it will and good luck to him ...I say!


28 posted on 07/09/2011 8:12:55 PM PDT by merryberry (2nd best punishment...IGNORE O.J. Anthony)
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To: Dallas59

I love that sign. A local toy store has that sign and they added “a large chocolate bar”.


29 posted on 07/09/2011 8:13:00 PM PDT by constitutiongirl (The Truth is a Person.)
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To: merryberry

Yes, some people have no common sense. Your habits with the kids sound like ours when ours were little. My 14 month old grandson is such a joy. Now it’s my daughter’s turn and it’s fun to watch her and her husband with that little guy.


30 posted on 07/09/2011 8:14:08 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

I have no grandkids yet but like You, they will do no wrong and they won’t be screeching... they’ll be whimpering...so get used to it, you “looking-for-romance bigots”...LOL


31 posted on 07/09/2011 8:21:49 PM PDT by merryberry (2nd best punishment...IGNORE O.J. Anthony)
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To: Immerito

Years ago we went on trip to Florida with my grandparents. They took the whole family.

My young cousin was usually a brat in the restaurants. My grandad was a calm quiet man. One day my cousin was screaming and acting out in the restaurant.

Grandpa got out of his chair, picked my cousin up and took him out to the car and shut the door. The kid was still screaming. Grandpa stood there smoking his cigar and told him “when you decide you are done screaming, we will go back inside”. LOL About 15 minutes later they returned and not a peep came out of the kid.

The boy was always good after that in the restaurants.

I don’t think too many people care to have to eat their dinner around noisy brats. It should be the job of parents instead of restaurant making the rules. If this place can afford to lose those customers, the owner has a right to set the rules.


32 posted on 07/09/2011 8:26:31 PM PDT by dforest
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To: seowulf
When my older son was high-chair age, we were in a buffet-style, family restaurant.

An older couple seated near us stopped at our table as they were leaving to compliment us on how well-behaved our son was.

Now, he was was no paragon of perfect behavior, but he had stayed in his chair and not screeched nor pitched a fit.

He did, however, appear a perfect little angel compared to the two or three families seated near us. Their children were running around the restaurant, chasing each other, yelling, and (Yech!) playing in the food still on the buffet line. The parents all sat at their tables, drinking coffee, conversing, and paying no attention whatsoever to their offspring.

I never found misbehavior and excessive noisiness "cute" in my children nor anybody else's, and I get less patient with it as I get older.

I'd pay this place a visit if I lived anywhere near it.

33 posted on 07/09/2011 8:41:58 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: Immerito

We didn’t go out to eat very often when the kids were small, but when we did, on at least two occasions, strangers approached us and complimented us on how very well behaved our children were. Of course, we felt proud of them, but I always was worried that after saying that, the kids would start acting up. Thankfully, that never happened.


34 posted on 07/09/2011 8:45:01 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Immerito

Sigh - if only I could bok a “kiddo-free” flight.

OH well, at least in 1st class there is a smaller chance of being stuck next to smelly screamer for 4 hours.....


35 posted on 07/09/2011 8:45:01 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Immerito

Yeah, I’ve got two little kids. We go to restaurants with balloons and free kids meals. There for a while we didn’t go to any restaurants because one kid had a penchant for what I like to call “the random screams.” He grew out of it. Then we could go back to balloons.


36 posted on 07/09/2011 8:52:16 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Immerito

I don’t care for screaming/ill-behaved kids in public, whether it be a restaurant, movie theater, church or retail store. My mother didn’t allow me to act like a brat.


37 posted on 07/09/2011 8:53:22 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: Dallas59

Another RUDE thing that parents let their kids do...is give the waiter/waitress an order”

Strongly disagree with you. When we are in a family restaurant and there is a children’s menu, once my grandson learned to read he was allowed to order. Children learn by doing. My grandson orders in about one tenth of the time it takes my DIL and then she always changes her mind. We have always let him choose something to take with him to the restaurant to occupy himself. Everyone is much happier this way, including those sitting around us.


38 posted on 07/09/2011 8:54:00 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Immerito

Good. I hope it is the start of a global trend!


39 posted on 07/09/2011 8:54:39 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: mockingbyrd

No, it’s a private business. They have the right (or ought to ) to ban people from their establishment if they choose to do so. Restaurants that ban too many customers find themselves at a competitive disadvantage. This restaurant must have a good reason for its policy.

There are plenty of sit-down restaurants that allow children.


40 posted on 07/09/2011 8:55:30 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Immerito

It is possible she has a good child. She may feel she’s being “discriminated against” because of others of “her” group, IYW.

However, I think I would be more disappointed than anything else if I really liked the place. After all, the age thing changes - she can go back with him in a few years.


41 posted on 07/09/2011 8:58:10 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“No, it’s a private business. They have the right (or ought to ) to ban people from their establishment if they choose to do so.”

“Ought to” is the operative. Too many things have been declared off-limits already in our fascist nation, even though everyone should have the right to associate as they wish. They’ll put this under “age discrimination” before long.


42 posted on 07/09/2011 9:04:43 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: merryberry

LOL


43 posted on 07/09/2011 9:06:27 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

This place seems to be in Pitcairn, but has a Monroeville address. It’s at the intersection of Rtes. 130 and 48. I’ve driven past, but haven’t eaten there. I don’t have kids, so it doesn’t really bother me that he doesn’t want young kids there. My parents never took us out to eat until we were about 10...and even then, it was McDonald’s or Big Boy. A big treat was getting to stop at Howard Johnson’s for some ice cream!


44 posted on 07/09/2011 9:07:38 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“there is no law that protects children from being denied service.”

Oh, call out the UN on the Rights of the Child!!!!


45 posted on 07/09/2011 9:09:37 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Immerito
I am offended...

Get over it.

46 posted on 07/09/2011 9:09:56 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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My children received many compliments on their good manners. Children under two, IMO, can be unpredictable. When my young children started fussing (even at a fast food restaurant), I’d leave with them. No one should have to listen to my kid fuss.


47 posted on 07/09/2011 9:14:24 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I seldom go to the movies, and a big reason is OLD PEOPLE. They talk through the movie, if they've seen it before (and this is usually the old peahens) they'll whisper what's going to happen next!

Not only do they insist on talking, but whoever they talk to is deaf. So, "Huh? What?" and the deaf usually shout instead of whisper. If an old couple try to sit near me, I'll move.

Oh, I have taken little kids to nursing homes to visit the inmates. They beg and cry for any little scrap of attention the child will give them. Just a few years before, I'll bet they were blackballing some young family in a gated club because they're "retired, don't want to do that anymore."

Hey, the world goes round and round.

48 posted on 07/09/2011 9:16:05 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: cherry

Right on!


49 posted on 07/09/2011 9:17:52 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Like I said, it should be the restaurant’s choice, but there are so many things private businesses have dictated to them, I was just wondering if there’s some regulation somewhere that the institution is actually violating.


50 posted on 07/09/2011 9:22:31 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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