Skip to comments.Casey Anthony Case May Not be Over - New Charges Possible
Posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:03 AM PDT by MindBender26
We all know it's not over until the fat lady sings, and here in Orlando we hear the fat lady in the form of the Orange County Sheriff's Office may only be getting warmed up.
Contacts at the Sheriff's Office say they are actively investigating the possibility that at least one witness was tampered with, and now the Sheriff has confirmed this. The talk at breakfast this morning with some retired senior LEOs was that the most probable targets were either "River Cruz", the woman who undermined George Anthony's testimony by claiming she had an affair with him, or the son of meter reader Roy Kronk who found the body. The son gave testimony claiming his father was "only in it for the money." The defense spun that out that out to Kronk had lied, moved the body, etc.
Of course at this time, none of this is proven, but we do know it is being actively worked. Local LEOs still very strongly suspect that Casey killed her daughter, either through an active act of premeditated murder, or anger. A third possibility also exists that if she did not intend the child to die, Casey is at the least guilty of criminally negligent neglect or acts so outrageous (such as an intentional chloroforming that went bad) that she should have been convicted, at a minimum, for aggravated manslaughter.
It's a long shot, but if it can be shown that someone connected with Casey and/or her defense did bribe or otherwise improperly influence a witness, the case could be reopened. Although she was acquitted in state court, double jeopardy does not attach if she would be accused of depriving her daughter of her civil rights in the federal court system. That's what happened in the Rodney King case. The cops were acquitted of assault and related charges in the California state court (isn't everyone,) but then convicted in the federal courts of depriving King of the civil rights.
An even more interesting concept might be the state's possible ability to retry Casey on murder/manslaughter charges. Although it is rarely invoked, there is a concept under the law that Casey Anthony is certainly entitled to a fair trial, but so are the People of the State of Florida. If it can be shown that the People of the State of Florida did not get a fair trial due to bribed witnesses or the like, there are operations of law that would allow Ms. Anthony be retried. It would be rare and the misconduct by the defense would certainly have to be egregious, but it is a possibility. With the anger now circulating in the local law enforcement community, it is certainly not an impossibility.
History is shown there is probably only about a 10% chance that anything in this will ever pan out, but it is certainly something that a number of newsies are watching very closely. We'll let you know when we hear more
The report wasn’t specific, other than “Facebook and message boards.” I listened to some of the tapes last night. Heavy duty ick factor. Since you watched, too, did you happen to notice how often Casey would say, “I’m telling the truth” or “I’m not lying to you” in those tapes? In general, I find that when someone says that a lot, they’re lying through their teeth. Yet the parents seemed to accept this? Or just scared to say that yes, they thought she was lying?
I heard this woman on HLN say Zanny the Nanny would have a hard time getting Casey because Casey will say she can not identify her. That is complete and utter nonsense. It has been proven there was no actual nanny so how could Casey identify her? She can/t.
This lawsuit is about an innocent person who is unfortunate to have the same name Casey gave. Her life was destroyed because of the lies Casey told. The press should stick to the facts instead of coming up with bs theories that defy reality.
This country is too steeped in manufactured answers. Reality needs to make a come back.
Knowledge sometimes makes a bloody entrance.
Jose Baez makes the opening statement “How can a mother not report her child for 30 days?”
Easy, Jose. She murdered her daughter.
I find one of the hallmark traits of a pathological liar is when they say things like, “I never lie.” I know a pathological liar who is very fond of saying that even as she is lying to your face. Her family is similar to the Anthony’s in that she ran (often terrorized) the entire household and her parents let her. They seemed afraid of her even when she was still a fairly young child. When Cindy and George tiptoe around Casey when speaking to her in the jailhouse tapes I get a hint of that same dynamic in the family. Chicken or egg? I don’t know.
So true. The media seems to be trying to re-write the whole story.
Here is something that is puzzling me and maybe someone knows the answer for certain. A lawyer once told me that when in court a lawyer is always considered to be “sworn in” when speaking to the court, jury, etc. Because lawyers are officers of the court they do not have to be formally sworn in like witnesses are.
Jose said in open court that Casey was molested by her father and brother. That is fine in an opening statement so far as it went but wasn’t he obligated to put up some proof of that? Since he didn’t prove it at all weren’t those statements something akin to lying under oath?
The jury certainly took his words as true, honest, and factual and a large part of that is because he is a lawyer...an officer of the court. I’m wondering if he couldn’t be brought up by the bar on charges for this, too.
Casey was AWFUL to her parents, yet they both just tried to soothe her, like she was some delicate little flower. Or ticking time bomb? Either way—not normal. And yet—the jury seems to have been taken in, hook line and sinker.
Really, if you think about it, it’s a simple case. The prosecution connected all of the dots, all they had to do was deliberate, meaning, look over the evidence, talk it through, ask for a readback or two. I will always wonder what actually happened in that jury room to sway half the jury.
I’m not sure about that. Various commentators have indicated that he should not have done that, but no one mentioned anything about any legal problems over it. Maybe someone who knows more about the law could comment?
What seems more disturbing to me is, Baez might well have known not only that Caylee was dead, but where she was, connecting a few of my own dots. Leonard Padilla was just on HLN talking about the same thing, and he reached the same conclusion. I don’t know if anyone can ever prove that he knew, but if he knew, wasn’t he obligated to report it to the police?
I believe Casey with the possible exception of her family has gotten away with her lies because she does nice things to distract from others from asking questions which might make them think.
She also says “truthfully,” a lot. Always makes me laugh. Love that the whole family agrees that everything should be put in writing and not said on video. Oh, but nothin’ to hide there.
I don’t know if you watch Jane Velez-Mitchell at night, but tonight she had this evil woman named Amy Singer - a defense consultant - who used bloggers and tweets to figure out that the public didn’t like George Anthony and so passed this info on to Baez who from that spurious gossip shaped his case to present George as a child molester. And you’ve got to see what this woman looks like! A monster!
The Defense in this case has really pulled out the dregs of society.
I saw her. Let’s just say this jury was the lowest common denominator they could find.
Also saw a youtube of Joy Behar--(I know...UGH) but she had the chic who sat beside Casey during the trial ...the older woman who has 3 parts to her name....(name eludes me)...
..and Joy asked her ..'if you think Casey is innocent, would you let her babysit your kids'.....
..and this woman could not ....would not...answer YES....
..she tried every which way but loose.....could not say YES!
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