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Plasma, Solar Outbursts, and the End of the Last Ice Age
The Official Website thereof ^ | prior to July 15, 2011 | Dr. Robert M. Schoch

Posted on 07/15/2011 10:15:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

15,000 to 11,000 years ago Earth experienced a series of climatic fluctuations... there was a short cold spell, known as the Younger Dryas, before the final warming and... end of the last ice age. Based on Greenland ice core data, the Younger Dryas began... 10,900 B.C., and its ending... circa 9700 B.C. and may have occurred within an incredible three years... I once hypothesized that comets were responsible. A comet hitting the land or a shallow ocean, or exploding above the land's surface, scattering dust and debris into the atmosphere, would cause global cooling... This pattern fits well with the cooling at 10,900 B.C. and there is evidence of a cometary explosion over North America at this time... comets hitting deep oceans were responsible. A comet might break the thin oceanic crust, releasing heat from the hot magma beneath. Vaporized and displaced water would rain down on Earth, and tsunamis would wash across coastal areas, warming the planet... [But] Plasma hitting the surface of Earth could heat and fuse rock, incinerate flammable materials, melt ice caps, vaporize shallow bodies of water creating an extended deluge of rain, and send the climate into a warming spell. The release of pressure that follows the melting of thousands-of-meters-thick ice sheets can induce earthquakes and even cause hot rock under pressure to melt and erupt to the surface as volcanoes... The plasma event of 9700 B.C. eradicated advanced civilizations and high cultures of the time, and... could be the basis for the nearly universal myth of a Golden Age, a time when beings on Earth had mental abilities far surpassing those of later times. The 9700 B.C. event may be the original basis for the Atlantis legends; the timeframe fits well with Plato's account.

(Excerpt) Read more at robertschoch.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: carringtonevent; catastrophism; cme; coronalmassejection; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; maunderminimum; plasma; pleistocene; robertmschoch; robertschoch; sida; sleepertroll; sleepertrolls; solarflares; youngerdryas
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To: Errant

Thanks, I may have to “friend” him on FB.


21 posted on 07/15/2011 12:03:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Quix

Hey, I went to a lot of work to make it look like that. :’)


22 posted on 07/15/2011 12:03:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: muawiyah

Funny that this never happened anywhere except for Easter Island.


23 posted on 07/15/2011 12:08:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
If something like the above where to happen, caves, inside mountain crevices and cliff overhangs would be the place to stand. :)

There are a number of interesting scriptures that kinda relate and cause one to wonder if they are based on the accounts of survivors of such an event(NIV):

Luke 23:30 Then "'they will say to the mountains, "Fall on us!" and to the hills, "Cover us!"'

Hose 10:8 ...Then they will say to the mountains, “Cover us!” and to the hills, “Fall on us!”

Rev. 6:16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

24 posted on 07/15/2011 12:08:34 PM PDT by Errant
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To: SunkenCiv
That's not true. Other examples of similar character have been found elsewhere.

The Easter Island material is just the best known. All those archaeologists going there and saying "gee whizz".

25 posted on 07/15/2011 12:14:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Explorer89
He had me until the part about the humans getting psychic abilities as a result.

So, you don't believe it's possible? Or, maybe you don't want it to be possible? Or, am I to gather you have studied extensively in this field and found the premise to be beyond the pale? JMHO, but I doubt you have a serious clue about the capabilities of the human mind; past or present.

26 posted on 07/15/2011 12:15:43 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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27 posted on 07/15/2011 12:22:18 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What I’ve see of Robert Schoch, he appears to be a fairly traditional type. Now this??? Channeling Velikovsky; I like it! We will find the answers outside the uniformitarian box. IMHO of course.


28 posted on 07/15/2011 12:22:30 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
known as the Younger Dryas

I always liked the Younger Niceas myself.

29 posted on 07/15/2011 12:24:03 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: muawiyah

How about just one?

The fact is, Rongorongo is some kind of writing system, just as quipu is a recordkeeping system (and maybe a writing system), but their secret is lost. At least in the case of the Rongorongo its purpose was known to the Easter Islanders themselves, who freely admit that there was never broad literacy in their pre-contact society.

from TES website — [snip] As an adjunct to Garn’s correspondence we take pleasure in presenting a reprint of one of Fell’s most famous Rongo-Rongo decipherments (originally appearing in ESOP, Vol. 19, 1990, pp 278-280). He deciphered the inscription shown in the background of a painting by Paul Gaugin of his Tahitian mistress and entitled “The Many Ancestors of Tehamana.” Fell suggests that the Easter Island script was long known in Tahiti, but concealed from the European administrators of the island. [/snip]

link to a page linking a nice blowup of the Gaugin painting:

http://popstuff-2010.blogspot.com/2010/10/new-gauguin-exhibition-at-tate-modern.html

wiki-wacky discussion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rongorongo

meanwhile, someone at Omniglot claims it was invented after the Spanish conquest in 1770:
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/rongorongo.htm


30 posted on 07/15/2011 12:52:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Errant

He mentioned that, I’m not sure I left it in the excerpt. Dang that 300 word limit.


31 posted on 07/15/2011 12:55:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ForGod'sSake

He is a trained geologist. I don’t think he’s come ‘round to V’s thinking, I’d have to dig out “Voices of the Rocks”, but I think he’s not receptive to the ideas of WiC. :’) That he knows about, anyway. ;’)


32 posted on 07/15/2011 1:29:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Oops, I left out Rev. 6:15:

"And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;"

33 posted on 07/15/2011 1:33:31 PM PDT by Errant
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To: ForGod'sSake
Channeling Velikovsky; I like it!

Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos are great reading, whether or not you agree with Velikovsky's premise. He accurately predicted the high surface temperature of Venus in 1950, way before our probes confirmed it.

34 posted on 07/15/2011 3:39:45 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SunkenCiv
I think he’s not receptive to the ideas of WiC. :’) That he knows about, anyway. ;’)

Heh. OR, that he would own up to??? What I know of Schoch is what I've seen on the NatGeo/History/Discovery channels over a period of ~10 years. That said, he seems like a sensible guy, not typically prone to hyperbole or sensationalism. That I've noticed anyway. I don't know if you caught the item in the article about "flybys". In addition to noting the possibility of comet strikes or flybys, he also eluded to "other objects" as a possibility. Just what might they be??? He doesn't elaborate. Without saying so, he very nearly takes a scenario out of WiC, no? He must have serious tenure or has already locked in his financial future to put his career on the line associating himself with catastrophes in recorded history. "V" is probably somewhere smiling.

35 posted on 07/15/2011 4:32:08 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: JimRed
Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos are great reading, whether or not you agree with Velikovsky's premise.

Compelling reading! I've read WiC and EiU each twice; once approaching them as novels then re-reading them as "text books". The second readings of course were much more instructive. I've got AiC on my computer and have plans to get around to it -- one of these days. Were it not for the media darling, Carl Sagan, and others in the Scientific Community™ unmercifully berating him, we would probably be farther along in the study of catstrophism.

He accurately predicted the high surface temperature of Venus in 1950, way before our probes confirmed it.

Amongst other predictions; another one that comes to mind is that Jupiter would be found to emit radio waves. "V" challenged the Scientific Community™ to verify his predictions but instead they spent most of their time villifying him. Our loss. I guess their sacred cows were money in the bank and more important than, as technology permitted, rolling up their sleeves researching his numerous predictions. Our government agencies played no small part in it either. The rationale escapes me...

36 posted on 07/15/2011 4:56:15 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
OOPS. It occurs to me Schoch's flyby reference was from a similar but LINKED ARTICLE of his. Beg pardon.
37 posted on 07/15/2011 6:07:28 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: Flag_This
One of his linked articles cited examples of vitrified buildings from around the globe, so this was apparently a global event.

Vitrification: (Ancient Examples of..)

Excerpt - Vitrified ruins have been found Scotland, England, Ireland, France, Turkey, Iran, Germany and elsewhere, however, out of some 100 forts identified throughout the world, more than half are located in Scotland.

Personally find this stuff to be very interesting. My Scottish Clan is one of the Ancient Scottish Clans so it kinda hits home.

38 posted on 07/15/2011 6:11:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
"...however, out of some 100 forts identified throughout the world, more than half are located in Scotland."

I remember first hearing about this a long time ago and the examples given then were pretty much all in the British Isles (thank you for the link, btw). Still, Schoch was talking about glaciers disappearing so rapidly that earthquakes may have occurred - if something happened it must have been over a very wide area.

39 posted on 07/15/2011 7:13:36 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Flag_This
Was interesting to read about plasma strikes possibly causing the vitrification. The competing theories to date were - intentionally done with the crafty use of fire; or perhaps they were the remains of a nuclear explosion type of event. So far the theory that they were intentionally done by humans to make the fort stones more defensive to attack seems to be the best explanation, but plasma strikes and correlation with very quick and abrupt climate change is interesting.

On the one hand if most of these forts are in Scotland, it could mean the plasma events were more common in that area or that there just was more of these forts in Scotland at the time.

It is also interesting to note that when the Sarmatian Dal Riada clan invaded Ireland, they claimed the Irish natives could control the weather, according to the surviving legends.

40 posted on 07/15/2011 8:21:02 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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